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[KotorEffect3]

Guldhun2 wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...
Straw man.

No, that's sarcasm.

It is you being a troll

[2484Stryker]

I was a bit disappointed by the single player portion of the demo in terms of introduction and story set up, but I enjoyed the multiplayer. At no point did I find anything worth pointing out about the graphics & animations (though I do think the gun sound effects sound a little weak compared to ME2)

I still think ME3 will be a great game.

[lorderezar]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...


The worst of ME3 is a deluge of bad ideas and fan pandering.

Nope, the plot's all-time-low belongs to ME2: Shepard dies, and comes back to life. And most of ME3's lows are just a side-effect of this terrible bridge.

Cerberus's crowning achievement, but not remotely possible by any stretch of science. At least the lore supports TIM's fate, and brings them back down to Earth too after their uncharacteristic ME2 success.

The plot of ME2 was not particularly groundbreaking, it was the endearing characters that made it come to life. Half of those are gone as squad members, and most of the ones that didn't make the squad seem to have had their voice actor's changed. And if ME2 had the all time low plot, do you think ME3 will be better? Mac Walters is still the lead writer, after all. I'm not criticizing him, just pointing out a fact. The characters were what I loved about ME2, not the overall story, which I felt kind of unraveled at the end. I have no idea what that last boss was even supposed to be or how it made sense.

[lorderezar]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

lorderezar wrote...

The plot of ME2 was not particularly groundbreaking, it was the endearing characters that made it come to life. Half of those are gone as squad members, and most of the ones that didn't make the squad seem to have had their voice actor's changed.

Who other than Mordin changed VAs? Enlighten me.

I can't say for sure, but Wrex and certainly Kirrahe (which is a minor character, granted) didn't sound very similar at all to me. It's an assumption on my part, but if they wouldn't get Beattie back for Mordin, or even explain why, I don't know why they'd get the other original VA's. If Wrex was the same, then I apologize, but he sounded very different to me.

[lorderezar]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

lorderezar wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

lorderezar wrote...

The plot of ME2 was not particularly groundbreaking, it was the endearing characters that made it come to life. Half of those are gone as squad members, and most of the ones that didn't make the squad seem to have had their voice actor's changed.

Who other than Mordin changed VAs? Enlighten me.

I can't say for sure, but Wrex and certainly Kirrahe (which is a minor character, granted) didn't sound very similar at all to me. It's an assumption on my part, but if they wouldn't get Beattie back for Mordin, or even explain why, I don't know why they'd get the other original VA's. If Wrex was the same, then I apologize, but he sounded very different to me.

I'm pretty sure Wrex has the same voice. And just because they changed one VA is no reason to believe they changed others.

Fair enough, looked it up on imdb, Wrex has the same actor. Criticism withdrawn, he sounded different because he was yelling more, Wrex never did much yelling before.

[Labrev]

lorderezar wrote...


And if ME2 had the all time low plot, do you think ME3 will be better? Mac Walters is still the lead writer, after all. I'm not criticizing him, just pointing out a fact. The characters were what I loved about ME2, not the overall story, which I felt kind of unraveled at the end. I have no idea what that last boss was even supposed to be or how it made sense.

I read the script and the answer is yes. There's the usual stupid stuff to be expected. Still, nothing stupider than Shepard dying and coming back. Also, character arcs are much improved. ME2 was quantity over quality. In ME3 they got it, they're doing more (much more, than ME2) with less.

And no, Wrex and Kirrahe are still voiced by their VAs. They're just a bit rusty, if you will, after Wrex's role was greatly reduced and Kirrahe was non-existant while his VA voiced a different salarian in the game (Ish).

[lorderezar]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

lorderezar wrote...


And if ME2 had the all time low plot, do you think ME3 will be better? Mac Walters is still the lead writer, after all. I'm not criticizing him, just pointing out a fact. The characters were what I loved about ME2, not the overall story, which I felt kind of unraveled at the end. I have no idea what that last boss was even supposed to be or how it made sense.

I read the script and the answer is yes. There's the usual stupid stuff to be expected. Still, nothing stupider than Shepard dying and coming back. Also, character arcs are much improved. ME2 was quantity over quality. In ME3 they got it, they're doing more (much more, than ME2) with less.

And no, Wrex and Kirrahe are still voiced by their VAs. They're just a bit rusty, if you will, after Wrex's role was greatly reduced and Kirrahe was non-existant while his VA voiced a different salarian in the game (Ish).

I haven't read the leaked script, because I didn't want spoilers. So good, I'm glad it gets better after the demo. I do want to love Mass Effect 3, and I'm hoping everyone will be a lot more positive after release. All I'm saying is, I can't justify a pre-order. I am still very open to purchasing the game, and if my criticisms are unfounded, then I will never have been so happy to be wrong about something. Just wanted to show there are reasonable voices of criticism out there.

[Sleepy Somnus]

I enjoyed the demo. Mass Effect 3 is going to be a great game!

[lorderezar]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Also, character arcs are much improved. ME2 was quantity over quality. In ME3 they got it, they're doing more (much more, than ME2) with less.

This is so true. We get a lot more and better interactions this time around; no more ****ing "calibrations".

As long as Tali has a good arc and lots of interaction. Yes, I'm one of those

[KotorEffect3]

lorderezar wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

lorderezar wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

lorderezar wrote...

The plot of ME2 was not particularly groundbreaking, it was the endearing characters that made it come to life. Half of those are gone as squad members, and most of the ones that didn't make the squad seem to have had their voice actor's changed.

Who other than Mordin changed VAs? Enlighten me.

I can't say for sure, but Wrex and certainly Kirrahe (which is a minor character, granted) didn't sound very similar at all to me. It's an assumption on my part, but if they wouldn't get Beattie back for Mordin, or even explain why, I don't know why they'd get the other original VA's. If Wrex was the same, then I apologize, but he sounded very different to me.

I'm pretty sure Wrex has the same voice. And just because they changed one VA is no reason to believe they changed others.

Fair enough, looked it up on imdb, Wrex has the same actor. Criticism withdrawn, he sounded different because he was yelling more, Wrex never did much yelling before.

Considering what is going on in the story and what is at stake for his entire species, Wrex yelling more makes sense in this context.

[Rockworm503]

ODST 3 wrote...

sumoaltus wrote...

To me it seems like all the hate is stemming from the Dragon Age fans who are still sore about the other half of Bioware that, in my opinion, makes poop baby games.

Basically they're taking all their rage on a game that will be phenomenal. And no, I haven't played the full game yet, but as a loyal Mass Effect fan, I don't need to. I know they put their hearts and souls into this ever expanding world. Three years of development opposed to less than one definitely shows me that this title will be nothing like Dragon Age. Which in my opinion, is a very weak title with a lackluster story, terrible graphics, sub-par voice acting, and a mediocre score.

True, I notice a lot of little Dragon Age avatars hating on the game. Just cause that weak series was ruined doesn't mean this good one will be.

GTFO in what way was Dragon Age Origins weak?  I'll give you a hint IT WASN'T!  In fact I'd argue that DAO alone is better than the entire ME series.  Stick that up your pipe and smoke it.

[lorderezar]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

lorderezar wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Also, character arcs are much improved. ME2 was quantity over quality. In ME3 they got it, they're doing more (much more, than ME2) with less.

This is so true. We get a lot more and better interactions this time around; no more ****ing "calibrations".

As long as Tali has a good arc and lots of interaction. Yes, I'm one of those

Oh, there are no worries there.

<---- Renews pre-order... lol, just something you don't hear on BSN all the time.

Modifié par lorderezar, 17 février 2012 - 02:38 .

[Rockworm503]

android654 wrote...

Commodore Q wrote...

It's impossible to please everyone, look at Lost for example.

Never say anything negative about Lost! It was perfect.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh wait 

[squee365]

lorderezar wrote...

<---- Renews pre-order... lol, just something you don't hear on BSN all the time.

You renewed your pre-order?

Cre-Porter Ancelled!

[lorderezar]

squee365 wrote...

lorderezar wrote...

<---- Renews pre-order... lol, just something you don't hear on BSN all the time.

You renewed your pre-order?

Cre-Porter Ancelled!

*Sigh* Yes, I did... I got off my soapbox and pre-ordered it again. Mass Effect, I wish I knew how to quit you. (Or do I...?)

[KotorEffect3]

Rockworm503 wrote...

ODST 3 wrote...

sumoaltus wrote...

To me it seems like all the hate is stemming from the Dragon Age fans who are still sore about the other half of Bioware that, in my opinion, makes poop baby games.

Basically they're taking all their rage on a game that will be phenomenal. And no, I haven't played the full game yet, but as a loyal Mass Effect fan, I don't need to. I know they put their hearts and souls into this ever expanding world. Three years of development opposed to less than one definitely shows me that this title will be nothing like Dragon Age. Which in my opinion, is a very weak title with a lackluster story, terrible graphics, sub-par voice acting, and a mediocre score.

True, I notice a lot of little Dragon Age avatars hating on the game. Just cause that weak series was ruined doesn't mean this good one will be.

GTFO in what way was Dragon Age Origins weak?  I'll give you a hint IT WASN'T!  In fact I'd argue that DAO alone is better than the entire ME series.  Stick that up your pipe and smoke it.

Hey now, both franchises are fun for different reasons.  Sometimes I like disintegrating aliens and sometimes I like decapitating darkspawn.  It just all depends on my mood.

Modifié par KotorEffect3, 17 février 2012 - 02:44 .

[KotorEffect3]

lorderezar wrote...

squee365 wrote...

lorderezar wrote...

<---- Renews pre-order... lol, just something you don't hear on BSN all the time.

You renewed your pre-order?

Cre-Porter Ancelled!

*Sigh* Yes, I did... I got off my soapbox and pre-ordered it again. Mass Effect, I wish I knew how to quit you. (Or do I...?)

Well that is a first,  I have never seen anyone change their mind like that from one thread.

[ODST 3]

android654 wrote...

Commodore Q wrote...

It's impossible to please everyone, look at Lost for example.

Never say anything negative about Lost! It was perfect.

LOST was absolute sh*t after Season 1.

[lorderezar]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

lorderezar wrote...

squee365 wrote...

lorderezar wrote...

<---- Renews pre-order... lol, just something you don't hear on BSN all the time.

You renewed your pre-order?

Cre-Porter Ancelled!

*Sigh* Yes, I did... I got off my soapbox and pre-ordered it again. Mass Effect, I wish I knew how to quit you. (Or do I...?)

Well that is a first,  I have never seen anyone change their mind like that from one thread.

I'd like to think this thread just stirred up latent love I have for Mass Effect, and doesn't make me seem like a sheep that follows the commands of others. But I suspect the latter case is what it will come off as. Nonetheless, it's a testament to the power of the Mass Effect franchise.

[JeffZero]

Reporter Canprelled.

[JeffZero]

ODST 3 wrote...

android654 wrote...

Commodore Q wrote...

It's impossible to please everyone, look at Lost for example.

Never say anything negative about Lost! It was perfect.

LOST was absolute sh*t after Season 1.

Hell's bells, I didn't even like the first season.