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[AgitatedLemon]

android654 wrote...

ODST 3 wrote... Nah, it was just sh*t, trust me.

Nah, you just got s**t taste and don't care for good writing.

Getting a little defensive there.

I prefer Dexter to Lost, when I watch character driven TV dramas.

[JeffZero]

android654 wrote...

ODST 3 wrote... Nah, it was just sh*t, trust me.

Nah, you just got s**t taste and don't care for good writing.

Deep Space Nine
Farscape
Babylon 5
The X-Files (OK, it fell off though)
Fringe
Battlestar Galactica (uneven, granted)

I love dramatic science fiction storytelling, but personally I didn't like Lost.

[JeffZero]

ODST 3 wrote...

android654 wrote...

ODST 3 wrote... Nah, it was just sh*t, trust me.

Nah, you just got s**t taste and don't care for good writing.

Lost had good writing til about episode four, then gradually devolved into melodramatic soap opera meets the Twilight Zone. I mourn the loss of what began as a fine adventure.

That's how I felt, actually, except I thought the pilot was below-average and the show had me interested for a handful more episodes than that.

[android654]

ODST 3 wrote...

android654 wrote...

ODST 3 wrote... Nah, it was just sh*t, trust me.

Nah, you just got s**t taste and don't care for good writing.

Lost had good writing til about episode four, then gradually devolved into melodramatic soap opera meets the Twilight Zone. I mourn the loss of what began as a fine adventure.

It was never intended to be an adventure story, it was always intended to be a character driven drama. The adventure aspect was merely a framing device for those characters. This is why that "melodrama" you critique was present in the pilot.

[Rockworm503]

hehe this is a discussion on lost.
You know a threads made it when its been derailed.

[Hunter of Legends]

Guldhun2 wrote...

Guanxii wrote...

It not hate it's concern. People love this franchise and have their own designs and expections for it however ridiculous.

Yes, like decent running animations and good decent writing. We shouldn't expect that much and just accept mediocrity because Guanxii said so.

The writing is fine.

[android654]

JeffZero wrote...
Deep Space Nine
Farscape
Babylon 5
The X-Files (OK, it fell off though)

These were bad, and X-files was mostly sci-fi and spent very little time on character development. Not in the same vein as Lost.

JeffZero
Fringe
Battlestar Galactica (uneven, granted)

Fringe is a good example of a Sci-fi drama that focuses more on a larger plot than their characters. Peter and Olivia take a back seat to anything going on between the two universes. But it has been capable of maintaining it's allure. I have been concerned with how they've treated Peter, Olivia and Walter's dynamic this season, but it looks like they're about to turn a corner.

If the version of BSG you're talking about is the one premiered in 04, then yes, that's a good character driven drama that takes place in a sci-fi setting.

Modifié par android654, 17 février 2012 - 03:27 .

[nitefyre410]

Rockworm503 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Rockworm503 wrote...

Considering that the whole Reaper threat is the same as the Darwkspawn you have no legs to stand on.

The Darkspawn weren't threatening an entire galaxy, were they?

Only differences.
1.  Galaxy instead of planet
2.  spend 3 games to stope them instead of one.

Not dissing ME just saying if you think DA is that weak then I just don't see how you can think ME is any better.

 

While DA:O was enjoyable and good it  was not the master piece that  everyone makes  it out to be.  Matter of fact both ME and DA: O Kinda feel flat  on the antognist end. The Darkspawn were just Oh look another ravenous horde  terrorizing the good towns folk. Wait they take the women and use them as breeders..okay... CREEPY. 

DA:O is like a  good cut of the steak cooked with no seasonings and garnish 

ME  is like a good  cut of steak seasoned nice just its not nearly big enough to be satisfying.  

[Rockworm503]

X-files taught me a valuable lesson.
No matter how good a show might look at one point the ending can ruin everything.
Its good we're talking about lost because it reminded me of X-files.

[AgitatedLemon]

android654 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...
Deep Space Nine
Farscape
Babylon 5
The X-Files (OK, it fell off though)

These were bad, and X-files was mostly sci-fi and spent very little time on character development. Not in the same vein as Lost.

2 of those shows have an 8.0 or higher on IMDB. DS9 has a 7.9. The X-files was probably a bad example.

[orpheuslupus]

It suddenly occurs to me that I've always preferred character driven to adventure driven and such (and especially preferred a satisfying combination of both). That's...Probably why I prefer ME2 to ME1 (not being affected much by the appearance of characters helps; whenever I see a sexualized character my mind immediately goes to "stylized" and "some people are sexual" as long as they're not horribly written.)

Huh.

[nitefyre410]

Rockworm503 wrote...

X-files taught me a valuable lesson.
No matter how good a show might look at one point the ending can ruin everything.
Its good we're talking about lost because it reminded me of X-files.

 


That is a very good point and i have to agree... 

The opening is important but the ending may be even more because its not the first impression you get from the series...

its the last. 

[android654]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

android654 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...
Deep Space Nine
Farscape
Babylon 5
The X-Files (OK, it fell off though)

These were bad, and X-files was mostly sci-fi and spent very little time on character development. Not in the same vein as Lost.

2 of those shows have an 8.0 or higher on IMDB. DS9 has a 7.9. The X-files was probably a bad example.

I think we all have enough experience to know that a majority opinion does not equate a quality position. A lot of people watch Gossip Girl and rate it highly. Do we need to discuss the merits of that show?

[AgitatedLemon]

android654 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

android654 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...
Deep Space Nine
Farscape
Babylon 5
The X-Files (OK, it fell off though)

These were bad, and X-files was mostly sci-fi and spent very little time on character development. Not in the same vein as Lost.

2 of those shows have an 8.0 or higher on IMDB. DS9 has a 7.9. The X-files was probably a bad example.

I think we all have enough experience to know that a majority opinion does not equate a quality position. A lot of people watch Gossip Girl and rate it highly. Do we need to discuss the merits of that show?

Gossip Girl isn't scifi.

[android654]

AgitatedLemon wrote...
Gossip Girl isn't scifi.

The point still stands. I wasn't saying Lost is good sci-fi, I was saying it's good drama. Offering up those comparisons to Lost lead me to critique them in the same way.

[jcolt]

as long as we're talkin tv weeds is a great show well the first few seasons

[WaffleCrab]

You people have not seen hate till you have read forums for one of the following games; League of Legends, CS:S, COD series Or left 4 dead series. So far most of the complaints and worries on ME3, sadly have been valid especially on the controls cheme department. The controls since ME1. no matter what version you look at x360 or PC. have been devolving instead of evolving.

One thing that has had a constant evolution from ME1, good. ME2, Awesome. To ME3 Epic. is the Jack walls music in the game.

[shinobi602]

Majority of people like it. As is the case with everything in the world, critics of something are always the most vocal.

There's really not much incentive or sense of entitlement for a person who loved the demo to post about, thus it feels like more dislike it than actually do.

[ODST 3]

android654 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

android654 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...
Deep Space Nine
Farscape
Babylon 5
The X-Files (OK, it fell off though)

These were bad, and X-files was mostly sci-fi and spent very little time on character development. Not in the same vein as Lost.

2 of those shows have an 8.0 or higher on IMDB. DS9 has a 7.9. The X-files was probably a bad example.

I think we all have enough experience to know that a majority opinion does not equate a quality position.

Quite so, which is how I know Lost is crap, despite many people liking it.

[JeffZero]

ODST 3 wrote...

android654 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

android654 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...
Deep Space Nine
Farscape
Babylon 5
The X-Files (OK, it fell off though)

These were bad, and X-files was mostly sci-fi and spent very little time on character development. Not in the same vein as Lost.

2 of those shows have an 8.0 or higher on IMDB. DS9 has a 7.9. The X-files was probably a bad example.

I think we all have enough experience to know that a majority opinion does not equate a quality position.

Quite so, which is how I know Lost is crap, despite many people liking it.

Well if someone thinks Farscape, Babylon 5, Deep Space Nine were all bad then /shrug is all I can say; same as I do with loving LOST. It's all a matter of opinion. But for money, DS9 was the best character-driven show I've seen.

[JeffZero]

android654 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

android654 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...
Deep Space Nine
Farscape
Babylon 5
The X-Files (OK, it fell off though)

These were bad, and X-files was mostly sci-fi and spent very little time on character development. Not in the same vein as Lost.

2 of those shows have an 8.0 or higher on IMDB. DS9 has a 7.9. The X-files was probably a bad example.

I think we all have enough experience to know that a majority opinion does not equate a quality position. A lot of people watch Gossip Girl and rate it highly. Do we need to discuss the merits of that show?

For the record, Gossip Girl's ratings have dived lately. There is a chance it will be cancelled. Not the best example, but I know what you mean.

[WaffleCrab]

JeffZero wrote...

ODST 3 wrote...

android654 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

android654 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...
Deep Space Nine
Farscape
Babylon 5
The X-Files (OK, it fell off though)

These were bad, and X-files was mostly sci-fi and spent very little time on character development. Not in the same vein as Lost.

2 of those shows have an 8.0 or higher on IMDB. DS9 has a 7.9. The X-files was probably a bad example.

I think we all have enough experience to know that a majority opinion does not equate a quality position.

Quite so, which is how I know Lost is crap, despite many people liking it.

Well if someone thinks Farscape, Babylon 5, Deep Space Nine were all bad then /shrug is all I can say; same as I do with loving LOST. It's all a matter of opinion. But for money, DS9 was the best character-driven show I've seen.

I agree with you, right till the end of season 6 ;D

[JeffZero]

android654 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...
Deep Space Nine
Farscape
Babylon 5
The X-Files (OK, it fell off though)

These were bad, and X-files was mostly sci-fi and spent very little time on character development. Not in the same vein as Lost.

JeffZero
Fringe
Battlestar Galactica (uneven, granted)

Fringe is a good example of a Sci-fi drama that focuses more on a larger plot than their characters. Peter and Olivia take a back seat to anything going on between the two universes. But it has been capable of maintaining it's allure. I have been concerned with how they've treated Peter, Olivia and Walter's dynamic this season, but it looks like they're about to turn a corner.

If the version of BSG you're talking about is the one premiered in 04, then yes, that's a good character driven drama that takes place in a sci-fi setting.

Yes, the newer BSG. The old one was very much stock, SW-cash-in pulp sci-fi. Didn't care for it in the least. Fringe... well, fair point.

Ultimately, here's the issue at hand: I didn't like LOST's cast much. A couple of characters intrigued me. Most of them didn't.

[JeffZero]

WaffleCrab wrote...
I agree with you, right till the end of season 6 ;D

Many people took issue to the seventh season. I liked it. But I understand why some wouldn't.

[Kevin Martell]

There are a lot of reasons why Mass Effect 3 gets a lot of hate. The biggest one, I think, is that people have developed unrealistic expectations and hopes for the series that simply cannot be met. I also think that a lot of people bought into the series for the wrong reasons and it's backfiring on them.