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[android654]

Aaleel wrote...

android654 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

I don't know why this is so hard for some people to swallow: the demo sucks, particularly the first half.

You're not allowed a different opinion, because thinking negatively about any aspect of a BW ip means your opinions become invalid.

You also forget the,

"If you didn't like the game/demo why do you still come here, don't post here anymore"

I guess you lose your posting privileges if you have concerns/complaints about a game.  All the feedback must be positive.

So much for the developers wanting to hear from the people who buy and play their games. I thought a big point of the forum is so BW can see what the people who play their games would like in their games.

mushoops86anjyl wrote...

android654 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

I don't know why this is so hard for some people to swallow: the demo sucks, particularly the first half.

You're not allowed a different opinion, because thinking negatively about any aspect of a BW ip means your opinions become invalid.

Just like my enjoyment of the demo makes me a Biodrone to those who disagree.

I haven't said that about anyone, but any criticism I've made is reduced to me being negative for the sake of being so. I've praised the demo on what I thought it got right, but the concerns I have outweigh what they did correctly.

[ODST 3]

sumoaltus wrote...

To me it seems like all the hate is stemming from the Dragon Age fans who are still sore about the other half of Bioware that, in my opinion, makes poop baby games.

Basically they're taking all their rage on a game that will be phenomenal. And no, I haven't played the full game yet, but as a loyal Mass Effect fan, I don't need to. I know they put their hearts and souls into this ever expanding world. Three years of development opposed to less than one definitely shows me that this title will be nothing like Dragon Age. Which in my opinion, is a very weak title with a lackluster story, terrible graphics, sub-par voice acting, and a mediocre score.

True, I notice a lot of little Dragon Age avatars hating on the game. Just cause that weak series was ruined doesn't mean this good one will be.

[Matt251287]

mushoops86anjyl wrote...

And how is it tearing itself apart?

Where should we begin?, i'm going to be honest i have very limited time for long forum posts, but i do want to discuss and i'll try and keep it subjective.

There's

- The Origin Situation
- The DLC Tsunami
- The Exclusive contents
- The random re-threading of the greater storyline, patched up with 99p storytape
----- See Prothean Situation.
----- See ME2 storyline pointless situation

- Characters invented for Fanservice (see Chobot)
- General dumbing down of game-features (see Cutscene Shep)
- Shafting of PC players (no high-rez textures, console porting much more obvious than ME2)
- Some quite bad issues in demo, the everything button is a big one
- Demo's complete lack of drama and soul (hints at indifference from Bioware staff)
- Lack of dramatic trailers, lots of little vids about this feature and that, just a huge lack of impact really, like no one cares about the product itself as much as selling it.


There's definitly more; All i'm saying is there's alot to make a fan nervous and i hate being proved right all the time.

[Navasha]

The simple answer is that people care about the series and don't want to see it butchered and done quickly and/or poorly.
DA2 demonstrated that sequels produced by Bioware will not necessarily outshine their previous title and actually will be a huge disappointment to its many fans.
People have a right to fear this again, now that the precedent has been set. Removing features that were present in a previous game is a good way to PO some of the fanbase no matter how small the detail seems.
Personally, I think the demo looks good at this point, but I am concerned about the incredible narrow FOV. Hopefully, the devs would be kind enough to address that before release, but I think the PC community is slowly coming to the realization that some "standard" features for PC games will be left out of cross-platform titles.

[Demonhoopa]

I guess it's not a big deal but not being able to holster the weapon still gawed at me. It's....immersion breaking. When I approach someone to start a dialoge, I don't want to be pointing my weapon at them. I've always holstered it. Did  they say why we have to walk around with arms outstretched non stop?
Did they not have enough resources left to "holster"? 

Modifié par Demonhoopa, 17 février 2012 - 12:27 .

[Major Alenko]

It's impossible to please everyone, look at Lost for example.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

The only things that really get to me are Origin, the pointless dlcs, the inablility to holster your weapon(I mean really) and some components of the multi.

Other then that though, what we saw in the demo may not be exactly what its like in the game.

Modifié par NOD-INFORMER37, 17 février 2012 - 12:28 .

[BounceDK]

It's mind boggling that you can't holster your weapon.

[ObserverStatus]

The only thing that I found overtly annoying was the random multiplayer unlocks, but in a worst case scenario I could just ignore the multiplayer entirely like I did with Metroid Prime 2.

[android654]

Commodore Q wrote...

It's impossible to please everyone, look at Lost for example.

Never say anything negative about Lost! It was perfect.

[CitizenSnips]

Matt251287 wrote...

mushoops86anjyl wrote...

And how is it tearing itself apart?

Where should we begin?, i'm going to be honest i have very limited time for long forum posts, but i do want to discuss and i'll try and keep it subjective.

There's

- The Origin Situation
- The DLC Tsunami
- The Exclusive contents
- The random re-threading of the greater storyline, patched up with 99p storytape
----- See Prothean Situation.
----- See ME2 storyline pointless situation

- Characters invented for Fanservice (see Chobot)
- General dumbing down of game-features (see Cutscene Shep)
- Shafting of PC players (no high-rez textures, console porting much more obvious than ME2)
- Some quite bad issues in demo, the everything button is a big one
- Demo's complete lack of drama and soul (hints at indifference from Bioware staff)
- Lack of dramatic trailers, lots of little vids about this feature and that, just a huge lack of impact really, like no one cares about the product itself as much as selling it.


There's definitly more; All i'm saying is there's alot to make a fan nervous and i hate being proved right all the time.

Well that certainly was subjective.

[SheppardJohn]

This is happening with every game by the way so ME3 is not the only case, we true fans will stay loyal to ME series and buy it all.

[EvilBeaver426]

I hate because I hope the game doesn't actually kick off where the demo kicks off.

How was I captured on the Normandy 2.0? One of the stealthiest mother****ers in the universe?
Wheres my crew? Thane? Jack? Grunt? Garrus? Tali? She was banished from her fleet! She wouldn't have anywhere to go!

And whos this Brick McAxle who keeps following me?

They're better be some explaining right up in here and PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T EXPLAIN THE ABOVE IN DLC!

[string3r]

More like disappointment.

[Legion64]

EvilBeaver426 wrote...

I hate because I hope the game doesn't actually kick off where the demo kicks off.

How was I captured on the Normandy 2.0? One of the stealthiest mother****ers in the universe?
Wheres my crew? Thane? Jack? Grunt? Garrus? Tali? She was banished from her fleet! She wouldn't have anywhere to go!

And whos this Brick McAxle who keeps following me?

They're better be some explaining right up in here and PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T EXPLAIN THE ABOVE IN DLC!

I am sure it won't. I think there is a scene before with Shepard and James Vega and maybe explain how Shepard got "grounded" and got his ship taken away.

[The Mythical Magician]

As a ME1>ME2 fan I really enjoyed the ME3 demo sooo.. I don't understand the hate.

[thatguy212]

BounceDK wrote...

It's mind boggling that you can't holster your weapon.

It's makes sense given that shepard has alzheimer's

[DrWilhelm]

There is a fence, and it has two sides. On one side there are the people who're are satisfied with their experience with the demo, and believe that ME3 will be an excellent game. On the other side there are people who were not so satisfied with the demo, and are worried that ME3 will not live up to it's pedigree and their expectations.

There is nothing wrong with being on either side of this fence. Please stop characterising everyone who has taken a different stance to your own as childish, pathetic or otherwise inferior. That sort of pointless mudslinging is rude, dishonest and not conducive to intelligent debate on the game's quality. This goes to both sides, by the way, not just the "lovers" or the "haters".

No, Mass Effect 3 is not a glittering beacon of absolute perfection. Everything has flaws, and critiquing those flaws is perfectly acceptable and to be expected. Criticism is an indispensable component of the creative process, so dismissing these flaws out if hand is childish. Conversely, Mass Effect 3 is not an absolute, irredeemable turd. Even I, who found the demo to be highly disapointing, can appreciate that the demo had some very strong moments. I thought that the landing Reapers were very cool, that the combat has taken a step forward in most areas, and seeing characters from previous games again was an absolute joy.

Do not simply dismiss someones opinion as wrong. Do not assault your fellows with a barrage of poorly worded hostility. Stop. Think. Type. It wouldn't go amiss to see less pointless vitriol spewed across the internet by posters unable to grasp that it is okay to disagree. I can only hope this post can convince at least some of the extremists to reevaluate their behaviour, because it's driving me insane. Maybe I should have made a seperate thread for it, to increase it's exposure.

[KotorEffect3]

Matt251287 wrote...

mushoops86anjyl wrote...

And how is it tearing itself apart?

Where should we begin?, i'm going to be honest i have very limited time for long forum posts, but i do want to discuss and i'll try and keep it subjective.

There's

- The Origin Situation-Irrelevant to us console players
- The DLC Tsunami-Would you prefer never to get extra content?
- The Exclusive contents-Will give you that
- The random re-threading of the greater storyline, patched up with 99p storytape
----- See Prothean Situation.
----- See ME2 storyline pointless situation-Not pointless at all, ME 2 introduced key characters (TIM, Mordin, Harbinger etc...) and it fleshed out the galaxy as well as giving context to situations like the genophage and the geth/quarian conflict

- Characters invented for Fanservice (see Chobot)-because trying to make fans happy is bad now?  Note I am not talking about the Chobot character but I hate it when people use the term "fanservice" as if that is a bad thing.
- General dumbing down of game-features (see Cutscene Shep)There were times way back in ME 1 where Shepard would say the same thing no matter what dialog option the player chose, they are simply cutting out the middle man in those situations
- Shafting of PC players (no high-rez textures, console porting much more obvious than ME2)-I've got news for you.  The world does not revolve around PC players.  The franchise was orignaly developed for the console
- Some quite bad issues in demo, the everything button is a big one
- Demo's complete lack of drama and soul (hints at indifference from Bioware staff)-Did you want to see the reapers cry or something?  Actualy that would be funny
- Lack of dramatic trailers, lots of little vids about this feature and that, just a huge lack of impact really, like no one cares about the product itself as much as selling it.-People want to know what features they will be getting, besides they are going to release a big dramatic CGI trailer on Sunday.


There's definitly more; All i'm saying is there's alot to make a fan nervous and i hate being proved right all the time.

[Finis Valorum]

Demonhoopa wrote...

Did  they say why we have to walk around with arms outstretched non stop?
Did they not have enough resources left to "holster"? 

Not to my knowledge, but considering your teammates can apparently at least lower their weapons when they're not shooting at something I'd say its an oversight all be it one that they'll adamantly refuse to fix.

Only on one of the consoles.

[KotorEffect3]

Navasha wrote...

The simple answer is that people care about the series and don't want to see it butchered and done quickly and/or poorly.
DA2 demonstrated that sequels produced by Bioware will not necessarily outshine their previous title and actually will be a huge disappointment to its many fans.
People have a right to fear this again, now that the precedent has been set. Removing features that were present in a previous game is a good way to PO some of the fanbase no matter how small the detail seems.
Personally, I think the demo looks good at this point, but I am concerned about the incredible narrow FOV. Hopefully, the devs would be kind enough to address that before release, but I think the PC community is slowly coming to the realization that some "standard" features for PC games will be left out of cross-platform titles.

DA 2 was developed by a completely different dev team and had a different timetable.  See my earlier post in this thread.

[RDSFirebane]

Well the Arrival DLC for mass effect 2 does explain how he gets captured I mean come one hes face to face with admiral H. on the Normandy and is told his time is running out that hes going to be hunted down and brought back to earth to answer for/explain what he just did. Shep didn't keep what he was doing or where he was a secret. and as far as the rest I had to look up the Comic for the whole Vega back story.

[Holoe4]

 I'm still pretty sure I will enjoy it.

The only complaints I have are:  1) Not being able to holster your weapon  2) Lame retailer pre-order exclusives.
Other than that I think I'll have a BLAST! :happy:

[KotorEffect3]

ODST 3 wrote...

sumoaltus wrote...

To me it seems like all the hate is stemming from the Dragon Age fans who are still sore about the other half of Bioware that, in my opinion, makes poop baby games.

Basically they're taking all their rage on a game that will be phenomenal. And no, I haven't played the full game yet, but as a loyal Mass Effect fan, I don't need to. I know they put their hearts and souls into this ever expanding world. Three years of development opposed to less than one definitely shows me that this title will be nothing like Dragon Age. Which in my opinion, is a very weak title with a lackluster story, terrible graphics, sub-par voice acting, and a mediocre score.

True, I notice a lot of little Dragon Age avatars hating on the game. Just cause that weak series was ruined doesn't mean this good one will be.

As I stated in my previous post they are two completely different franchises anyway.  I think alot of the Dragon Age fans just want some sort of old fashioned RPG and they don't understand that Mass Effect was never supposed to be all RPG,  Mass Effect is an action/rpg hybrid.

[KotorEffect3]

EvilBeaver426 wrote...

I hate because I hope the game doesn't actually kick off where the demo kicks off.

How was I captured on the Normandy 2.0? One of the stealthiest mother****ers in the universe?
Wheres my crew? Thane? Jack? Grunt? Garrus? Tali? She was banished from her fleet! She wouldn't have anywhere to go!

And whos this Brick McAxle who keeps following me?

They're better be some explaining right up in here and PLEASE, PLEASE DON'T EXPLAIN THE ABOVE IN DLC!

That stuff has been explained in comics and dlc and some of it well be explained to you in game.  Some of don't need everything spoonfed to us and we realize that the game will answer some of those questions.