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[Cody211282]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

You know what ... RPG's, the gaming community will be so much better off when the Elitist and Special Snow flakes just vanish.

Yes individuality must be erased, only then can everyone be fully intergrated into to the collective.

 

Sense of Entitlement =/= individaulity. 

That's true the gamer comunity has a sense of entitlement that put hipsters to shame. And honestly I think I may have read this wrong because I thought you were saying that people who didnt like the demo are elitist and had nothing to contrubute.

[Texhnolyze101]

teh_619 wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Draconis6666 wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

FallOut 3 and New Vegas isn't a greate game, and give the possibility to play in third and in first person, but not have a grate story of ME.

Fallout 3 is an abomination and i lost hope for NV when obsidian decided to mold it after said abomination instead of F1 and 2.

Which is your personal opinion that many people obviously disagree with based on the sales numbers and review scores FO3 recieved. On the note of comparing new games to old classics like the Original Fallouts, Baldurs Gate etc, I sometimes wonder if people actualy have ever taken the time to go back and re judge those games on their actual merits without looking through their nostalga haze. Those games while good games, do not have any monumental improvements in the quality of their plot and stories than alot of current generation games do. Planescape Torment had problem the best actual story of that generation of RPGs and it wasnt that super awesome in itself in comparison to most written stories.

If your going to use old school RPGs to say that modern RPGs dont have the same depth of customization or freedom mof exploration thats more true but saying that they had particularly awesome stories in comparison to modern RPGs to me seems pointless since their quality is not much better if its even better at all.

Fallout 3 is still trash so will every other fallout that comes after it so i don't  care:bandit:

But new vegas is better!

End of line.

I don"t like NV either

[Marionetten]

Rezources wrote...

Congratulations, you're a cool cynic who will never enjoy any game again because it's not Baldur's Gate.

There are still decent games out there like The Witcher 2. It's just that BioWare isn't making them.

[BatmanPWNS]

EJ107 wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Fallout 3 is still trash so will every other fallout that comes after it so i don't  care

 

http://pbskids.org/a.../factsopinions/

I was actually looking for that.

[AndrewRogue]

Sure I would.

I forgave them for Baldur's Gate 1 issues.
Then Tales of the Sword Coast issues.
Then Baldur's Gate 2 issues.
Then Throne of Bhall issues.
Then Dragon Age: Origin issues.
Then Mass Effect issues.
Then Mass Effect 2 issues.
Then Dragon Age 2 issues.

So yeah. I'll probably forgive them ME3 issues as well. I've been doing it my entire gaming career, anyway.

[AlexXIV]

Marionetten wrote...

Rezources wrote...

Congratulations, you're a cool cynic who will never enjoy any game again because it's not Baldur's Gate.

There are still decent games out there like The Witcher 2. It's just that BioWare isn't making them.

Decent games like Witcher2? In which reality? Seriously, Witcher 2 is not the worst game in the world bit is about as good or bad as DA2 in my book tbh.u

Modifié par AlexXIV, 16 février 2012 - 03:49 .

[The_mango55]

10 years ago they made a game called Neverwinter Nights with a lame story, no real party, a poor interface, and generally not an impressive single player experience all around.

We all forgave them for that.

[Texhnolyze101]

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...
Fallout 3 is still trash so will every other fallout that comes after it so i don't  care:bandit:

I had an amazing time with Fallout 3 and tons of hours of good entertainment and the fact that someone can dismiss it aside as easily as a Madden reboot is a viewpoint I can never understand. It must really, really suck to be that picky, but I'm glad I'll never have to suffer it.

I like TES but that doesn't mean Fallout had to become exactly like TES it was fine the way it was but beth thought it would be cool to change something that wasn't broken and beth sucks at making good stories so thats another reason future fallout games will fail. I rather bioware have the Fallout IP

[Ianamus]

The_mango55 wrote...

10 years ago they made a game called Neverwinter Nights with a lame story, no real party, a poor interface, and generally not an impressive single player experience all around.

We all forgave them for that.

Neverwinter nights was actually the first RPG I ever played, and what originally got me interested in the genre 

That might explain why I'm not constantly whining about how old Bioware games are better (Well, other than with DA:O and DA:2)

Modifié par EJ107, 16 février 2012 - 03:54 .

[Sarevok Synder]

AlexXIV wrote...

Marionetten wrote...

Rezources wrote...

Congratulations, you're a cool cynic who will never enjoy any game again because it's not Baldur's Gate.

There are still decent games out there like The Witcher 2. It's just that BioWare isn't making them.

Decent games like Witcher2? In which reality? Seriously, Witcher 2 is not the worst game in the world bit is about as good or bad as DA2 in my book tbh.u

Just because you didn't like it doesn't mean the other guy lives in an alternate reality for doing so. You are not the benchmark for reality.

[Luigitornado]

WTF are you talking about? ME1 was filled with bugs, clunky gameplay, sloppy animations, and texture pop-in.

[nitefyre410]

Cody211282 wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

You know what ... RPG's, the gaming community will be so much better off when the Elitist and Special Snow flakes just vanish.

Yes individuality must be erased, only then can everyone be fully intergrated into to the collective.

 

Sense of Entitlement =/= individaulity. 

That's true the gamer comunity has a sense of entitlement that put hipsters to shame. And honestly I think I may have read this wrong because I thought you were saying that people who didnt like the demo are elitist and had nothing to contrubute.

 
 
Nope  not all... i have my issues with ME  but  i will never sit there  and say Bioware sold out or has betrayed my trust because they have choosen to branch out  and  leave  game play designs that are close to  over 20 years old and that have  weighted down  RPGS for years behind. 

Like tidious invetory  managment,  lack luster combat, Generic  Fantasy  setting # 50  etc, etc, etc.   

Look at Valkyria Chronicles - they took the  Turn based  Strategy RPG and reinvented it and it  has that same feel while implimenting things like cover and  aiming. 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 16 février 2012 - 03:56 .

[Deadmac]

After reading through the first four pages, the only answer I can give is a rather simple one.

Its subjective. Regardless about what form of entertainment or art you experience, the interpretation of such a piece is based upon a personal-subjective analysis. Some people like blue, and other people like red. No one is truly right or wrong.

Personally, I do not care if BioWare is a success or failure. If BioWare suddenly fell off the face of the Earth, the gaming industry will continue to move onward. Even though their absence will be felt in the short term, the void they leave behind will be filled by another. Its the same with "Star Wars". George Lucas is not the only science-fiction writer, nor is he the best contributor to the genre. Sure, they did contribute something to their respective fields; however, they are not the end all solution to the overall experience.

Electronic Arts: BioWare will eventually meet the same fate as Activision. "Dragon Age", "Mass Effect", and "TOR" will also fall into the depths of game oblivion. Its the natural order of things.

While everyone has been debating, the latest news is that the gaming industry is loosing steam. Sales across all platforms are starting to fall. Demand for gaming software and technology is in the decline. We are entering into another technology cycle, which will determine the fate of many companies. It happened in the 80s and 90s. Will BioWare survive through the next cycle? I personally don't care.

Once all these modern game developers turned from making games as an act of rebellion, they had become posers in comparison to those who founded pc gaming. "Diablo", "Duke Nukem 3D", "Hexan", "Leisure Suit Larry", and "Doom" were created by people who didn't care about download content, digital media rights, and censorship.

As long as they keep ridding their past success, BioWare doesn't care about the quality of their modern content.

Why? People keep paying.

Modifié par Deadmac, 16 février 2012 - 04:03 .

[BatmanPWNS]

Luigitornado wrote...

WTF are you talking about? ME1 was filled with bugs, clunky gameplay, sloppy animations, and texture pop-in.

Shoosh, people don't want to be reminded.

[Marionetten]

AlexXIV wrote...

Decent games like Witcher2? In which reality? Seriously, Witcher 2 is not the worst game in the world bit is about as good or bad as DA2 in my book tbh.u

http://www.metacriti...assins-of-kings

Note the user score. Now compare to Dragon Age II. Which reality do you live in?

[Izhalezan]

teh_619 wrote...



Cancel Preordered.

This.

[TheCreeper]

Luigitornado wrote...

WTF are you talking about? ME1 was filled with bugs, clunky gameplay, sloppy animations, and texture pop-in.

nostaliga fliter.

[Nu-Nu]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...
Fallout 3 is still trash so will every other fallout that comes after it so i don't  care:bandit:

I had an amazing time with Fallout 3 and tons of hours of good entertainment and the fact that someone can dismiss it aside as easily as a Madden reboot is a viewpoint I can never understand. It must really, really suck to be that picky, but I'm glad I'll never have to suffer it.

I like TES but that doesn't mean Fallout had to become exactly like TES it was fine the way it was but beth thought it would be cool to change something that wasn't broken and beth sucks at making good stories so thats another reason future fallout games will fail. I rather bioware have the Fallout IP

Fallout 3 is tons more fun than their current game Skyrim, and even much better than oblivion. They do Sci-fi stories so much better than they do dragon fantasy stories.

I've played fallout 1 and 2, and I think Fallout 3 is a great addition to the series. I was wary of what they did, but I played fallout 3 with an open mind and love the hell out of it.

[Texhnolyze101]

Luigitornado wrote...

WTF are you talking about? ME1 was filled with bugs, clunky gameplay, sloppy animations, and texture pop-in.

ME1's only problem was the frame rate issues and inventory everything else was fine.

[The_mango55]

Not to get too far off topic but Fallout 3 was a good game, but a terrible Fallout.

New Vegas was about 1000 times better.

[DaringMoosejaw]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Luigitornado wrote...

WTF are you talking about? ME1 was filled with bugs, clunky gameplay, sloppy animations, and texture pop-in.

ME1's only problem was the frame rate issues and inventory everything else was fine.

Re-used bunkers?

[Luigitornado]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Luigitornado wrote...

WTF are you talking about? ME1 was filled with bugs, clunky gameplay, sloppy animations, and texture pop-in.

ME1's only problem was the frame rate issues and inventory everything else was fine.

x____o

Oh yes.

It was a "perfect" game.

I love Mass Effect, but talk about selective-rose-colored glasses.

Let's not forget about annoying enemy chatter, repeated enemy hide-outs/mines/bunkers, navigating cliffs with the Mako, oh yeah...AND clunky gameplay.

[cerberus1701]

Marionetten wrote...

Fidget6 wrote...

Maybe my standards are just lower than you people, but I actually loved both Dragon Age 2 and the Mass Effect 3 demo.

You've just adapted

Gee, I dunno. Maybe he just likes them.

I liked DA2. In some ways I liked the combat better than I did Origins. In many ways I liked the story better in Origins. DA2 was rushed. From everything I've heard they are working to remedy that in DA3.

Point being, overall, I liked the game. it was a pleasant experience and it was worth my money. Perhaps the original quoter and I have in common that we look at a game in it's totality before we judge it.

Let's be honest here, if we were looking at ME1 for anything other than story and customization options there never would have been an ME2, as the combat is barely functional. It's no surprise that ME2 took its cues from GoW. It's what they were always trying to do in the first place.

And I liked the ME3 demo.  I don't care that i can't holster my weapon. I don't care that the movement animations aren't the same as ME2. Because I never had any expectation that they might be in the first place. Things change.

Overall it was a great experience and I can't wait for 3.6.

I haven't "adapted" It's just that my metrics are different than yours to start with.

[Texhnolyze101]

Nu-Nu wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...
Fallout 3 is still trash so will every other fallout that comes after it so i don't  care:bandit:

I had an amazing time with Fallout 3 and tons of hours of good entertainment and the fact that someone can dismiss it aside as easily as a Madden reboot is a viewpoint I can never understand. It must really, really suck to be that picky, but I'm glad I'll never have to suffer it.

I like TES but that doesn't mean Fallout had to become exactly like TES it was fine the way it was but beth thought it would be cool to change something that wasn't broken and beth sucks at making good stories so thats another reason future fallout games will fail. I rather bioware have the Fallout IP

Fallout 3 is tons more fun than their current game Skyrim, and even much better than oblivion. They do Sci-fi stories so much better than they do dragon fantasy stories.

I've played fallout 1 and 2, and I think Fallout 3 is a great addition to the series. I was wary of what they did, but I played fallout 3 with an open mind and love the hell out of it.

Morrowind is better than skyrim and failout 3 both moded and un-moded and i also gave failout 3 a try as well and it was still trash as i expected it to be.