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HolyAvenger wrote...

First BW game I ever played? BG. Love for current ME3 demo? Maximum capacity.

Please stop speaking for all "old school" Bioware fans, you sound elitist and arrogant.


Well sorry you can't be right all the time like me and the OP. We're real fans.

We know what's best both for the audience and the developers.

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Yeah guy well your in the very low minority because everyone is loving this game, Bioware is doing just find and is going to continue to make more awesome games in the years to come.

So deal with it.


So it isnt just the game thats missed a few years of education ?

I wrote this game off after the DA debacle.
was obvious back then they were pandering to the slopers,so i dont feel betrayed this time round,i didnt preorder or sit waiting with great expectations.

But coming to the forum where the worst brown noser sheep live was daft of the OP ;)
its the home of the beiber fanbase.



The OP was doomed to failure the second he claimed that any "old fan" of Bioware would agree with him. He can screw off with that kind of thinking.

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The PLC wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

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5 years ago they made a crappy game. It was called ME1.

What's up with people being wrong in this thread?!


An opinion can't be wrong. :police:

If you're opinion is that ME1 is a bad game, then yes, you're very very wrong.


Do you want me to write an essay about it? Cuz I think I can.

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teh_619 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

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Cody211282 wrote...

Ya I get what your trying to say and honestly the last great game they put out was DA:O, but I'm still going to get this for 2 reasons:
1- I already played the other 2 games
2- If it sucks then this plus DA2 will have killed all hope I have in bioware thus freeing up a ton of time/money that I wont waste on future games from them.


You forgot SWTOR.. yeah I know it's an MMO but still.. its made by BW and that game was a HUGE failure and if this trend continues then I have lost all my faith in BW.


Huge failure? Where the hell did you come to that conclusion? It sold more copies than any other MMO so far (with the exception of WoW ofc) and also has more subscribers than any other mmo than WoW, if that's your definition of a failure then I really want to know waht your definition of a success is.

^ This. I would love to hear your reasons on why you think TOR failed.


Are two measuring a game's success by its sales?




No, a game's sucess is made by the reviews, sales and awards. Whiny people over the internet don't decide what's a fail or not.


It seems I have to beat some sense into you.

A game's quality is DEFINIITELY NOT measured by reviews since it's a common business for reviewers  to give out biased and unqualifying positive reviews for, what else?, money.

Secondly, SALES have nothing to do with quality, they are actually a great indication of how successful a companie's marketing is, how great their EPIC TRAILER DERP are.

It has also to do with how mature and able of critical thinking is the target group of the game.

tldr; see CoD.

And awards?
Awards by whom? Awards mean nothing in the game industry fool.

I can't believe I actually answered to this guy.

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BatmanPWNS wrote...

The PLC wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

The PLC wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

5 years ago they made a crappy game. It was called ME1.

What's up with people being wrong in this thread?!


An opinion can't be wrong. :police:

If you're opinion is that ME1 is a bad game, then yes, you're very very wrong.


Do you want me to write an essay about it? Cuz I think I can.


Yes. 8 pages single spaced.

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BatmanPWNS wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

packardbell wrote...

Manou1 wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

Ya I get what your trying to say and honestly the last great game they put out was DA:O, but I'm still going to get this for 2 reasons:
1- I already played the other 2 games
2- If it sucks then this plus DA2 will have killed all hope I have in bioware thus freeing up a ton of time/money that I wont waste on future games from them.


You forgot SWTOR.. yeah I know it's an MMO but still.. its made by BW and that game was a HUGE failure and if this trend continues then I have lost all my faith in BW.


Huge failure? Where the hell did you come to that conclusion? It sold more copies than any other MMO so far (with the exception of WoW ofc) and also has more subscribers than any other mmo than WoW, if that's your definition of a failure then I really want to know waht your definition of a success is.

^ This. I would love to hear your reasons on why you think TOR failed.


Are two measuring a game's success by its sales?




No, a game's sucess is made by the reviews, sales and awards. Whiny people over the internet don't decide what's a fail or not.


Reviews are not to be trusted as they will lie because a company tells them to kinda like that thing where some guy got fired because he didn't give a kane and lynch game a good review like he was suppose to.

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BatmanPWNS wrote...

The PLC wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

The PLC wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

5 years ago they made a crappy game. It was called ME1.

What's up with people being wrong in this thread?!


An opinion can't be wrong. :police:

If you're opinion is that ME1 is a bad game, then yes, you're very very wrong.


Do you want me to write an essay about it? Cuz I think I can.

Not really. I know I'm right, so that's not really needed.

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nitefyre410 wrote...

You know what ... RPG's, the gaming community will be so much better off when the Elitist and Special Snow flakes just vanish.


Yeah screw originality and quality!! I want generic, low quality, cheesy shooter x, again and again and again!! Can't stand these people who expect a certain level of competance, who do they think they are? Why can't they just get in line and hand over their cash like all the rest of us sheep!

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I hope for the day people will stop with this "anti-COD generation" stupid arguments. If the new generation games are so bad, please, go back and play older games, just stay there, there's nothing for you here..

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Oh God what are you on about now, great way to be vague and pointless. PLEASE LOCK THIS.

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Massefeckt wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

You know what ... RPG's, the gaming community will be so much better off when the Elitist and Special Snow flakes just vanish.


Yeah screw originality and quality!! I want generic, low quality, cheesy shooter x, again and again and again!! Can't stand these people who expect a certain level of competance, who do they think they are? Why can't they just get in line and hand over their cash like all the rest of us sheep!


Competence.

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Massefeckt wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

You know what ... RPG's, the gaming community will be so much better off when the Elitist and Special Snow flakes just vanish.


Yeah screw originality and quality!! I want generic, low quality, cheesy shooter x, again and again and again!! Can't stand these people who expect a certain level of competance, who do they think they are? Why can't they just get in line and hand over their cash like all the rest of us sheep!

Nice horse you got there. Quite high, isn't it?

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LeandroBraz wrote...

I hope for the day people will stop with this "anti-COD generation" stupid arguments. If the new generation games are so bad, please, go back and play older games, just stay there, there's nothing for you here..


THANK YOU! Someone with some sane arguments.

If you hate the current generation of games and can't appreciate how newer games are better - they're easier on the eyes, have lots of cool cinematics and really try to make you apart of the action - then there's nothing for you to enjoy.

We don't need someone with a negative opinion ruining everyone else's fun.

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People have a hard time to admit that the demo was made of ass and incompetence.

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teh_619 wrote...

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OP is wrong. BioWare are making better interactive cinematic emotionally engaging narratives than ever. If you can't handle the new and innovative features and design, then I suggest that your expectations are misaligned.


" interactive cinematic emotionally engaging narratives"?

Rofl. That's what I'm talkin about.

ITs a DEMO dont be a douche did you really think they were going to give away major plot points in a demo? How much a moron do you have to be to think there going to give away major story points in a Demo. 

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Massefeckt wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

You know what ... RPG's, the gaming community will be so much better off when the Elitist and Special Snow flakes just vanish.


Yeah screw originality and quality!! I want generic, low quality, cheesy shooter x, again and again and again!! Can't stand these people who expect a certain level of competance, who do they think they are? Why can't they just get in line and hand over their cash like all the rest of us sheep!

 

As I stated for before 

Self of Entitlement does not indivuality  

Nor does it equal orginality... because  if some out wanted  Bioware to be original then one would want them break ground in different terrority instead of using the same formula's  that they have used sense BG. 

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Okay, that's alright OP, you have your own views on this and want to make it known. Got no problems with that.

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Sgt Stryker wrote...

packardbell wrote...

Manou1 wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

Ya I get what your trying to say and honestly the last great game they put out was DA:O, but I'm still going to get this for 2 reasons:
1- I already played the other 2 games
2- If it sucks then this plus DA2 will have killed all hope I have in bioware thus freeing up a ton of time/money that I wont waste on future games from them.


You forgot SWTOR.. yeah I know it's an MMO but still.. its made by BW and that game was a HUGE failure and if this trend continues then I have lost all my faith in BW.


Huge failure? Where the hell did you come to that conclusion? It sold more copies than any other MMO so far (with the exception of WoW ofc) and also has more subscribers than any other mmo than WoW, if that's your definition of a failure then I really want to know waht your definition of a success is.

^ This. I would love to hear your reasons on why you think TOR failed.


First of all the hero engine is horrible.. game was buggy as hell at launch and still is. Every time BW fixes one thing, they broke two. Lack of end game content, PvP is a joke (especially Ilum) and no I did not rush to lvl 50. And the best part.. the game lacked core elements at launch like UI customization, target of target and the list goes on.. the game is simply from a stone age. What else? the game is too linear and has way too many loading screens.. feels more like an SP than an MMO game. Oh and all those quests every class can make.. what a waste of resources and all that work put into VO.. quests are basically "kill x amount of droids" and you'll be hitting spacebar like crazy on your 2nd playthrough. Ugh..

Sure people that enjoy story and take their time leveling their characters will enjoy the game but for an MMO player it offers nothing.. my server is already an ghost town.

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teh_619 wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

packardbell wrote...

Manou1 wrote...

Cody211282 wrote...

Ya I get what your trying to say and honestly the last great game they put out was DA:O, but I'm still going to get this for 2 reasons:
1- I already played the other 2 games
2- If it sucks then this plus DA2 will have killed all hope I have in bioware thus freeing up a ton of time/money that I wont waste on future games from them.


You forgot SWTOR.. yeah I know it's an MMO but still.. its made by BW and that game was a HUGE failure and if this trend continues then I have lost all my faith in BW.


Huge failure? Where the hell did you come to that conclusion? It sold more copies than any other MMO so far (with the exception of WoW ofc) and also has more subscribers than any other mmo than WoW, if that's your definition of a failure then I really want to know waht your definition of a success is.

^ This. I would love to hear your reasons on why you think TOR failed.


Are two measuring a game's success by its sales?




No, a game's sucess is made by the reviews, sales and awards. Whiny people over the internet don't decide what's a fail or not.


It seems I have to beat some sense into you.

A game's quality is DEFINIITELY NOT measured by reviews since it's a common business for reviewers  to give out biased and unqualifying positive reviews for, what else?, money.

Secondly, SALES have nothing to do with quality, they are actually a great indication of how successful a companie's marketing is, how great their EPIC TRAILER DERP are.

It has also to do with how mature and able of critical thinking is the target group of the game.

tldr; see CoD.

And awards?
Awards by whom? Awards mean nothing in the game industry fool.

I can't believe I actually answered to this guy.


Ok, why don't you tell me how a game's is successful? I am sure you'll give me a very intelligent answer so you think you're such a "old and loyal" Bioware fan.

Plus, COD is successful. It might not appeal to you, it might not be your type of game but it is successful. Just cuz you don't play it doesn't mean it's not successful.

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Massefeckt wrote...

Yeah screw originality and quality!! I want generic, low quality, cheesy shooter x, again and again and again!! Can't stand these people who expect a certain level of competance, who do they think they are? Why can't they just get in line and hand over their cash like all the rest of us sheep!


I recommend you learn some reading comprehension. Then again, I'm not sure you'd be able to handle it given your current mental capacity.

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Okay, that's alright OP, you have your own views on this and want to make it known. Got no problems with that.


Excuse me, his own views? You mean your own views. He speaks for all of us. Get with the times.

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So.... I guess I'm an ashamed BioWare fan... Cuz I liked the demo

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CrustyBot wrote...

LeandroBraz wrote...

I hope for the day people will stop with this "anti-COD generation" stupid arguments. If the new generation games are so bad, please, go back and play older games, just stay there, there's nothing for you here..


THANK YOU! Someone with some sane arguments.

If you hate the current generation of games and can't appreciate how newer games are better - they're easier on the eyes, have lots of cool cinematics and really try to make you apart of the action - then there's nothing for you to enjoy.

We don't need someone with a negative opinion ruining everyone else's fun.


You're kidding yourselves.

ME3 is far from what modern games have to offer.

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LeandroBraz wrote...

I hope for the day people will stop with this "anti-COD generation" stupid arguments. If the new generation games are so bad, please, go back and play older games, just stay there, there's nothing for you here..


There is no "anti-cod generation" that game and franchise is just naturally trash. B)

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Phategod1 wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

CrustyBot wrote...

OP is wrong. BioWare are making better interactive cinematic emotionally engaging narratives than ever. If you can't handle the new and innovative features and design, then I suggest that your expectations are misaligned.


" interactive cinematic emotionally engaging narratives"?

Rofl. That's what I'm talkin about.

ITs a DEMO dont be a douche did you really think they were going to give away major plot points in a demo? How much a moron do you have to be to think there going to give away major story points in a Demo. 


Do you have some kind of reading comprehension problem bro?
Who talked about plot points?