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XyleJKH wrote...

So.... I guess I'm an ashamed BioWare fan... Cuz I liked the demo


REPENT, HERETIC, REPENT!

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XyleJKH wrote...

So.... I guess I'm an ashamed BioWare fan... Cuz I liked the demo

Me too. We're not worthy of being true Bioware fans it seems. I guess the REAL FANS, are the ones who cancels their pre-orders and whines about everything in the game. Yeah, that must be it. 

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LeandroBraz wrote...

I hope for the day people will stop with this "anti-COD generation" stupid arguments. If the new generation games are so bad, please, go back and play older games, just stay there, there's nothing for you here..


This.  I have been playing computer games since the 70s (original Pong owner here), and I understand the nostalgia factor.  But there are plenty of retro-games out there for that market.  If you do not like where BioWare is going, go play those games.

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teh_619 wrote...

CrustyBot wrote...

LeandroBraz wrote...

I hope for the day people will stop with this "anti-COD generation" stupid arguments. If the new generation games are so bad, please, go back and play older games, just stay there, there's nothing for you here..


THANK YOU! Someone with some sane arguments.

If you hate the current generation of games and can't appreciate how newer games are better - they're easier on the eyes, have lots of cool cinematics and really try to make you apart of the action - then there's nothing for you to enjoy.

We don't need someone with a negative opinion ruining everyone else's fun.


You're kidding yourselves.

ME3 is far from what modern games have to offer.


I had not realized you had a copy yet. Since your so enraged with your copy please send it to me. 

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Oh yeah CoD is such a good game gentlemen.



Very professional!

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You know what ... RPG's, the gaming community will be so much better off when the Elitist and Special Snow flakes just vanish.


Yeah screw originality and quality!! I want generic, low quality, cheesy shooter x, again and again and again!! Can't stand these people who expect a certain level of competance, who do they think they are? Why can't they just get in line and hand over their cash like all the rest of us sheep!



 expect competence is one thing, What I see is a dumb empty complain, coming from people that don't know what they want. Everything is bad, everything is ridiculous, every history is dumb, every single peace of gameplay is COD kind of s**t gameplay. Nothing is good enough. What you guys want don't exist, is a unreachable expectation. Don't matter what game developers do, will be aways lame for you guys.


 Considering this, why anyone should care about your opinions? We already know, everything we like is lame, everything is COD bull****, you guys know better. Okay, now get over it.

Modifié par LeandroBraz, 16 février 2012 - 01:39 .


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BatmanPWNS wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

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Cody211282 wrote...

Ya I get what your trying to say and honestly the last great game they put out was DA:O, but I'm still going to get this for 2 reasons:
1- I already played the other 2 games
2- If it sucks then this plus DA2 will have killed all hope I have in bioware thus freeing up a ton of time/money that I wont waste on future games from them.


You forgot SWTOR.. yeah I know it's an MMO but still.. its made by BW and that game was a HUGE failure and if this trend continues then I have lost all my faith in BW.


Huge failure? Where the hell did you come to that conclusion? It sold more copies than any other MMO so far (with the exception of WoW ofc) and also has more subscribers than any other mmo than WoW, if that's your definition of a failure then I really want to know waht your definition of a success is.

^ This. I would love to hear your reasons on why you think TOR failed.


Are two measuring a game's success by its sales?




No, a game's sucess is made by the reviews, sales and awards. Whiny people over the internet don't decide what's a fail or not.


It seems I have to beat some sense into you.

A game's quality is DEFINIITELY NOT measured by reviews since it's a common business for reviewers  to give out biased and unqualifying positive reviews for, what else?, money.

Secondly, SALES have nothing to do with quality, they are actually a great indication of how successful a companie's marketing is, how great their EPIC TRAILER DERP are.

It has also to do with how mature and able of critical thinking is the target group of the game.

tldr; see CoD.

And awards?
Awards by whom? Awards mean nothing in the game industry fool.

I can't believe I actually answered to this guy.


Ok, why don't you tell me how a game's is successful? I am sure you'll give me a very intelligent answer so you think you're such a "old and loyal" Bioware fan.

Plus, COD is successful. It might not appeal to you, it might not be your type of game but it is successful. Just cuz you don't play it doesn't mean it's not successful.


The only reason COD is successful is because the idiots who buy them don't know how to handle there money and 98% of them are stupid teens.

Modifié par 101ezylonhxeT, 16 février 2012 - 01:40 .


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teh_619 wrote...

Phategod1 wrote...

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OP is wrong. BioWare are making better interactive cinematic emotionally engaging narratives than ever. If you can't handle the new and innovative features and design, then I suggest that your expectations are misaligned.


" interactive cinematic emotionally engaging narratives"?

Rofl. That's what I'm talkin about.

ITs a DEMO dont be a douche did you really think they were going to give away major plot points in a demo? How much a moron do you have to be to think there going to give away major story points in a Demo. 


Do you have some kind of reading comprehension problem bro?
Who talked about plot points?


I assumed by you quoting that, that was your issue with ME3. Which is absurd to think you would recieve all that from a demo. 

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Great, another thread by a someone who doesn't see that Bioware wanted to make a shooter with RPG elements, not Baldur's Gate in Space or an updated KOTOR clone. When are these so called oldschool fans, and I use that term loosely since I've played every Bioware game, realize Bioware is going to make the games they want to make? If you don't like where they are going, don't buy their games.

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I liked the first two games, and it looks like I'm going to like the third game.

It must really suck to be driven into a rage because you can somehow hate a game so much. I pity you all.

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GnusmasTHX wrote...

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Okay, that's alright OP, you have your own views on this and want to make it known. Got no problems with that.


Excuse me, his own views? You mean your own views. He speaks for all of us. Get with the times.


I c wat u did thar. I'm not quite sure you got where I was coming from.

Modifié par Arcadian Legend, 16 février 2012 - 01:42 .


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Who wouldnt forgive bioware for what exactly?

I like many others have been playing Bioware games for many years and other than DA2 have liked their games including ME3 demo.

Maybe its because i couldnt give a monkeys who publishes games or that ME3 blurs the lines between genres (which i think is great tbh), but i liked the demo bar very very few small things.

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my only disappoint its for the reason of BioWare to create the trilogy for xbox360,

i'm pc gamer, and all pc gamer have join the saga after one years,

and BioWare and EA follow to give more attention on xbox360.

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XyleJKH wrote...

So.... I guess I'm an ashamed BioWare fan... Cuz I liked the demo


we see your sig...you were going to love the demo even if it was aa sega megadrive 12 second flash of the games intro screen.

no shame in being a fan,the shame lies in how much self respect a person doesnt have.

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I am going to reserve judgement until the finished game. But it is painful when the great fall (and most do when big business get involved).

I mean, I still respect and admire what bioware are able to create (mass effect has truly been something special), but its so sad when its so clear that the talent are not allowed to bloom fully and "complete" the work as it should be.

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FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

my only disappoint its for the reason of BioWare to create the trilogy for xbox360,

i'm pc gamer, and all pc gamer have join the saga after one years,

and BioWare and EA follow to give more attention on xbox360.

Xbox 360 version is what sells the most. Seems reasonable to me.

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Arcadian Legend wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Arcadian Legend wrote...

Okay, that's alright OP, you have your own views on this and want to make it known. Got no problems with that.


Excuse me, his own views? You mean your own views. He speaks for all of us. Get with the times.


I c wat u did thar.

Well actually he's not alone. But times are such. Unless they some day develop a console that is cheap but at the same time with a hardware that doesn't restrict game developers as much as they do now we will mostly get the same with every game. Because story, dialogues and choices eat hardware for breakfast and everything else will suffer from it. So they have to find a balance which will always leave someone feel disappointed.

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FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

my only disappoint its for the reason of BioWare to create the trilogy for xbox360,

i'm pc gamer, and all pc gamer have join the saga after one years,

and BioWare and EA follow to give more attention on xbox360.


The series did start on 360 exclusively after all. The PC ME1 port didn't happen untill way later. Though I do sort of agree.

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I am seeing the trilogy thru. What happens after that depends as much on other developers as it does with bioware.

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The ME1 PC port wasn't even done by BW and it was the best port of the series.

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The PLC wrote...

FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

my only disappoint its for the reason of BioWare to create the trilogy for xbox360,

i'm pc gamer, and all pc gamer have join the saga after one years,

and BioWare and EA follow to give more attention on xbox360.

Xbox 360 version is what sells the most. Seems reasonable to me.


digital sales are not calculated like the console sales at least i don't think so technically your wrong.

Modifié par 101ezylonhxeT, 16 février 2012 - 01:47 .


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As long as Bioware keeps writing these epic tales, and has interesting characters along for the ride, i'll keep playing their games. They can make combat whatever they like.

Modifié par Imajasjam, 16 février 2012 - 01:49 .


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PLC you're cracking me up man, you're making my chest hurt.

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LOL Xbox. What a junk console.

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More trolling from teh.