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Calling everyone who buys COD games idiots? Really? REALLY? Holy ****ing crap, this forum continues to blow my mind. Wow...


I wouldn't go as far as to call them idiots.

They just don't know any better.

Or maybe they have fun. You know. The whole point of buying video games.


Street junkies have fun too, in the end they're just hurting themselves though.

The word fun doesn't really have any context in this dialogue.

Your actually comparing a street junkie to someone who plays CoD? Wow dude...Just when I thought you couldn't sink any lower.

teh_619 totally screwed up with that one. Wow...

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WHAT! Corporate greed exists PREORDER cancelled!

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The thing I didn't like about the demo was the format - I don't like doing the escape from Earth thing, and then playing a future mission way further into the story. It kind of wrecks the story narrative for you because you think 'Well what the hell is going on! What happened!' It was like Dragon Age 2 with their demo format. Bioware should re-think how they do their demos.

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That's a false corporation principle and you would realise that if you could control the nonsense you spew.


Mhm. That's why the games are entertaining enough to sell and be played, so the consumer spends hours playing and the developers get paid.

On what criteria is the series unsucessful, let me guess, the "I don't like it, therefore it sucks and everyone who plays it is dumb", one right?

I've already posted on the previous page what constitutes a game successful

Do better than that.


And it's wrong. Do better than that.

I did laugh at the challenge part, for an online game.

Not as much as I laughed when I got my first train set, pure glee.

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Im not ashamed. OP should be ashamed for being angry/frustrated about a video game.

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Uezurii wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Calling everyone who buys COD games idiots? Really? REALLY? Holy ****ing crap, this forum continues to blow my mind. Wow...


I wouldn't go as far as to call them idiots.

They just don't know any better.

Or maybe they have fun. You know. The whole point of buying video games.


Street junkies have fun too, in the end they're just hurting themselves though.

The word fun doesn't really have any context in this dialogue.

Your actually comparing a street junkie to someone who plays CoD? Wow dude...Just when I thought you couldn't sink any lower.


I was actually expecting you to say that.

The point you missed though is that "fun" has no context in this conversation.

Every second guy can have fun with anything but it has nothing to do with the quality of the product which we are discussing.

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The PLC wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Calling everyone who buys COD games idiots? Really? REALLY? Holy ****ing crap, this forum continues to blow my mind. Wow...


I wouldn't go as far as to call them idiots.

They just don't know any better.

Or maybe, just MAYBE, these people actually enjoy these games. Are yoy really that arrogant?! I guess everyone who doesn't listen to the same music and watches the same movies as I do, just 'doesn't know any better'... ****ing please!


They apparently don't know any better as they buy the same crap every year thinking its new when its not and happily get nickel and dimed for $15 map packs.

Modifié par 101ezylonhxeT, 16 février 2012 - 02:26 .


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Oh dear me. "I've been a Bioware fan for years they changed! wah! *insert sense of entitlement*" Look games moved on and the modern gamer expects more from a game than they did in the late 90's where it was fine to have simpler graphics and tons of text to read but now there is so much more that makes up a game even Mass Effect itself was very different in scope to what Bioware got famous for and it was still a well loved and great game. A little clunky and slow at times but they fixed that in the sequal.

Honestly i don't know what the OP is so upset about it seems like another hissy fit based on a sense of nostalgia making them view old games with rose colored spectacles.

And honestly if people want to cancel their preorders then go ahead you are entitled. It's your money but why do some people feel the need to come on here and tell everyone? Nobody cares what games you preordered and honestly i think if you actually were going to do it you just would instead of saying it on here. A lot of the complainers end up buying the game anyway.


If you think nobody cares about what I think, what makes you think someone thinks differently about you?


Well you must care since you cared enough to quote me and reply. So that makes me think somebody cares about me. Honestly i am flattered when can i expect my card and flowers?

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The PLC wrote...

Uezurii wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Calling everyone who buys COD games idiots? Really? REALLY? Holy ****ing crap, this forum continues to blow my mind. Wow...


I wouldn't go as far as to call them idiots.

They just don't know any better.

Or maybe they have fun. You know. The whole point of buying video games.


Street junkies have fun too, in the end they're just hurting themselves though.

The word fun doesn't really have any context in this dialogue.

Your actually comparing a street junkie to someone who plays CoD? Wow dude...Just when I thought you couldn't sink any lower.

teh_619 totally screwed up with that one. Wow...


It's not my fault you're a simpleton.

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The thing I didn't like about the demo was the format - I don't like doing the escape from Earth thing, and then playing a future mission way further into the story. It kind of wrecks the story narrative for you because you think 'Well what the hell is going on! What happened!' It was like Dragon Age 2 with their demo format. Bioware should re-think how they do their demos.

They already tells the player that "This is a future mission" during the loading screen.

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Moondoggie wrote...

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Oh dear me. "I've been a Bioware fan for years they changed! wah! *insert sense of entitlement*" Look games moved on and the modern gamer expects more from a game than they did in the late 90's where it was fine to have simpler graphics and tons of text to read but now there is so much more that makes up a game even Mass Effect itself was very different in scope to what Bioware got famous for and it was still a well loved and great game. A little clunky and slow at times but they fixed that in the sequal.

Honestly i don't know what the OP is so upset about it seems like another hissy fit based on a sense of nostalgia making them view old games with rose colored spectacles.

And honestly if people want to cancel their preorders then go ahead you are entitled. It's your money but why do some people feel the need to come on here and tell everyone? Nobody cares what games you preordered and honestly i think if you actually were going to do it you just would instead of saying it on here. A lot of the complainers end up buying the game anyway.


If you think nobody cares about what I think, what makes you think someone thinks differently about you?


Well you must care since you cared enough to quote me and reply. So that makes me think somebody cares about me. Honestly i am flattered when can i expect my card and flowers?


I care about you... But I'm not promising any flowers. Here's your card though:

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Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 16 février 2012 - 02:22 .


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Moondoggie wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...

Oh dear me. "I've been a Bioware fan for years they changed! wah! *insert sense of entitlement*" Look games moved on and the modern gamer expects more from a game than they did in the late 90's where it was fine to have simpler graphics and tons of text to read but now there is so much more that makes up a game even Mass Effect itself was very different in scope to what Bioware got famous for and it was still a well loved and great game. A little clunky and slow at times but they fixed that in the sequal.

Honestly i don't know what the OP is so upset about it seems like another hissy fit based on a sense of nostalgia making them view old games with rose colored spectacles.

And honestly if people want to cancel their preorders then go ahead you are entitled. It's your money but why do some people feel the need to come on here and tell everyone? Nobody cares what games you preordered and honestly i think if you actually were going to do it you just would instead of saying it on here. A lot of the complainers end up buying the game anyway.


If you think nobody cares about what I think, what makes you think someone thinks differently about you?


Well you must care since you cared enough to quote me and reply. So that makes me think somebody cares about me. Honestly i am flattered when can i expect my card and flowers?


Well you posted in my thread and posted about how nobody cares.

So I don't even know what we're saying here.

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GnusmasTHX wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...

Oh dear me. "I've been a Bioware fan for years they changed! wah! *insert sense of entitlement*" Look games moved on and the modern gamer expects more from a game than they did in the late 90's where it was fine to have simpler graphics and tons of text to read but now there is so much more that makes up a game even Mass Effect itself was very different in scope to what Bioware got famous for and it was still a well loved and great game. A little clunky and slow at times but they fixed that in the sequal.

Honestly i don't know what the OP is so upset about it seems like another hissy fit based on a sense of nostalgia making them view old games with rose colored spectacles.

And honestly if people want to cancel their preorders then go ahead you are entitled. It's your money but why do some people feel the need to come on here and tell everyone? Nobody cares what games you preordered and honestly i think if you actually were going to do it you just would instead of saying it on here. A lot of the complainers end up buying the game anyway.


If you think nobody cares about what I think, what makes you think someone thinks differently about you?


Well you must care since you cared enough to quote me and reply. So that makes me think somebody cares about me. Honestly i am flattered when can i expect my card and flowers?


I care about you... But I'm not promising any flowers.


I at least want a lobster dinner

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Moondoggie wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...

Oh dear me. "I've been a Bioware fan for years they changed! wah! *insert sense of entitlement*" Look games moved on and the modern gamer expects more from a game than they did in the late 90's where it was fine to have simpler graphics and tons of text to read but now there is so much more that makes up a game even Mass Effect itself was very different in scope to what Bioware got famous for and it was still a well loved and great game. A little clunky and slow at times but they fixed that in the sequal.

Honestly i don't know what the OP is so upset about it seems like another hissy fit based on a sense of nostalgia making them view old games with rose colored spectacles.

And honestly if people want to cancel their preorders then go ahead you are entitled. It's your money but why do some people feel the need to come on here and tell everyone? Nobody cares what games you preordered and honestly i think if you actually were going to do it you just would instead of saying it on here. A lot of the complainers end up buying the game anyway.


If you think nobody cares about what I think, what makes you think someone thinks differently about you?


Well you must care since you cared enough to quote me and reply. So that makes me think somebody cares about me. Honestly i am flattered when can i expect my card and flowers?


I care about you... But I'm not promising any flowers.


I at least want a lobster dinner


Sounds expensive, you better put out.

I mean, I will enjoy the night regardless, as I'm sure the quality of our conversation and your company is without peer, and it would bring me great joy just to see you content.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 16 février 2012 - 02:23 .


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teh_619 wrote...

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Calling everyone who buys COD games idiots? Really? REALLY? Holy ****ing crap, this forum continues to blow my mind. Wow...


I wouldn't go as far as to call them idiots.

They just don't know any better.

Or maybe, just MAYBE, these people actually enjoy these games. Are yoy really that arrogant?! I guess everyone who doesn't listen to the same music and watches the same movies as I do, just 'doesn't know any better'... ****ing please!


They apparently don't know any better as they but the same crap every year thinking its new when its not and happily get nickel and dimed for $15 map packs.

Is it really that hard to grasp that people maybe enjoy these games? How is it any different to sports games?! It's THEIR money! Don't tell other people what they should and shouldn't buy/enjoy. 

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teh_619 wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...

Oh dear me. "I've been a Bioware fan for years they changed! wah! *insert sense of entitlement*" Look games moved on and the modern gamer expects more from a game than they did in the late 90's where it was fine to have simpler graphics and tons of text to read but now there is so much more that makes up a game even Mass Effect itself was very different in scope to what Bioware got famous for and it was still a well loved and great game. A little clunky and slow at times but they fixed that in the sequal.

Honestly i don't know what the OP is so upset about it seems like another hissy fit based on a sense of nostalgia making them view old games with rose colored spectacles.

And honestly if people want to cancel their preorders then go ahead you are entitled. It's your money but why do some people feel the need to come on here and tell everyone? Nobody cares what games you preordered and honestly i think if you actually were going to do it you just would instead of saying it on here. A lot of the complainers end up buying the game anyway.


If you think nobody cares about what I think, what makes you think someone thinks differently about you?


Well you must care since you cared enough to quote me and reply. So that makes me think somebody cares about me. Honestly i am flattered when can i expect my card and flowers?


Well you posted in my thread and posted about how nobody cares.

So I don't even know what we're saying here.


We were talking about how much you care about me and you were bragging about canceling your preorder for..some reason i dunno i guess you are really proud that you are such a grown up little snuckems now that you can cancel a preorder all by yourself.

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GnusmasTHX wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...

Oh dear me. "I've been a Bioware fan for years they changed! wah! *insert sense of entitlement*" Look games moved on and the modern gamer expects more from a game than they did in the late 90's where it was fine to have simpler graphics and tons of text to read but now there is so much more that makes up a game even Mass Effect itself was very different in scope to what Bioware got famous for and it was still a well loved and great game. A little clunky and slow at times but they fixed that in the sequal.

Honestly i don't know what the OP is so upset about it seems like another hissy fit based on a sense of nostalgia making them view old games with rose colored spectacles.

And honestly if people want to cancel their preorders then go ahead you are entitled. It's your money but why do some people feel the need to come on here and tell everyone? Nobody cares what games you preordered and honestly i think if you actually were going to do it you just would instead of saying it on here. A lot of the complainers end up buying the game anyway.


If you think nobody cares about what I think, what makes you think someone thinks differently about you?


Well you must care since you cared enough to quote me and reply. So that makes me think somebody cares about me. Honestly i am flattered when can i expect my card and flowers?


I care about you... But I'm not promising any flowers.


I at least want a lobster dinner


Sounds expensive, you better put out.

I mean, I will enjoy the night regardless, as I'm sure the quality of our conversation and your company is without peer, and it would bring me great joy just to see you content.


I only put out after 6 dates AND  a lobster dinner

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GnusmasTHX wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

That's a false corporation principle and you would realise that if you could control the nonsense you spew.


Mhm. That's why the games are entertaining enough to sell and be played, so the consumer spends hours playing and the developers get paid.

On what criteria is the series unsucessful, let me guess, the "I don't like it, therefore it sucks and everyone who plays it is dumb", one right?

I've already posted on the previous page what constitutes a game successful

Do better than that.


And it's wrong. Do better than that.

I did laugh at the challenge part, for an online game.

Not as much as I laughed when I got my first train set, pure glee.


So from what I think you're saying, ME3 constitues somehow an online game and shouldn't be challenging?

Alright, I'll try to do better than that thanks bro.

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Moondoggie wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...

Oh dear me. "I've been a Bioware fan for years they changed! wah! *insert sense of entitlement*" Look games moved on and the modern gamer expects more from a game than they did in the late 90's where it was fine to have simpler graphics and tons of text to read but now there is so much more that makes up a game even Mass Effect itself was very different in scope to what Bioware got famous for and it was still a well loved and great game. A little clunky and slow at times but they fixed that in the sequal.

Honestly i don't know what the OP is so upset about it seems like another hissy fit based on a sense of nostalgia making them view old games with rose colored spectacles.

And honestly if people want to cancel their preorders then go ahead you are entitled. It's your money but why do some people feel the need to come on here and tell everyone? Nobody cares what games you preordered and honestly i think if you actually were going to do it you just would instead of saying it on here. A lot of the complainers end up buying the game anyway.


If you think nobody cares about what I think, what makes you think someone thinks differently about you?


Well you must care since you cared enough to quote me and reply. So that makes me think somebody cares about me. Honestly i am flattered when can i expect my card and flowers?


Well you posted in my thread and posted about how nobody cares.

So I don't even know what we're saying here.


We were talking about how much you care about me and you were bragging about canceling your preorder for..some reason i dunno i guess you are really proud that you are such a grown up little snuckems now that you can cancel a preorder all by yourself.


rofl

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teh_619 wrote...

Uezurii wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Calling everyone who buys COD games idiots? Really? REALLY? Holy ****ing crap, this forum continues to blow my mind. Wow...


I wouldn't go as far as to call them idiots.

They just don't know any better.

Or maybe they have fun. You know. The whole point of buying video games.


Street junkies have fun too, in the end they're just hurting themselves though.

The word fun doesn't really have any context in this dialogue.

Your actually comparing a street junkie to someone who plays CoD? Wow dude...Just when I thought you couldn't sink any lower.


I was actually expecting you to say that.

The point you missed though is that "fun" has no context in this conversation.

Every second guy can have fun with anything but it has nothing to do with the quality of the product which we are discussing.


If fun has no place when talking about a video game, then what does, what is your point?

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another problem its this : ME2 and ME3 have call  no veteran player, no really fan of this epic story,
but casual console gamer, take the enter of ps3 gamer, BioWare not have made a new porting of ME1, have made a interactive comics !, and now BioWare its made a new porting of ME1 of OiS, really ' this its incredible, EA its a responsable of this changes.

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teh_619 wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

That's a false corporation principle and you would realise that if you could control the nonsense you spew.


Mhm. That's why the games are entertaining enough to sell and be played, so the consumer spends hours playing and the developers get paid.

On what criteria is the series unsucessful, let me guess, the "I don't like it, therefore it sucks and everyone who plays it is dumb", one right?

I've already posted on the previous page what constitutes a game successful

Do better than that.


And it's wrong. Do better than that.

I did laugh at the challenge part, for an online game.

Not as much as I laughed when I got my first train set, pure glee.


So from what I think you're saying, ME3 constitues somehow an online game and shouldn't be challenging?

Alright, I'll try to do better than that thanks bro.


LOL. No I laughed for real. You're making my train set jealous.

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101ezylonhxeT wrote...

The PLC wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Calling everyone who buys COD games idiots? Really? REALLY? Holy ****ing crap, this forum continues to blow my mind. Wow...


I wouldn't go as far as to call them idiots.

They just don't know any better.

Or maybe, just MAYBE, these people actually enjoy these games. Are yoy really that arrogant?! I guess everyone who doesn't listen to the same music and watches the same movies as I do, just 'doesn't know any better'... ****ing please!


They apparently don't know any better as they but the same crap every year thinking its new when its not and happily get nickel and dimed for $15 map packs.


That may be true to a certain extent but when toy factor in the Multiplayer is what most COD and BF3 fans care about, the game isn't going to change much. the Campaigns are all but nonexistant in the latest version of those games which sucks, because I love a good shooter campaign. I just don't cry about it on the forums like I'm entitled to something.

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Moondoggie wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...

teh_619 wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...

Oh dear me. "I've been a Bioware fan for years they changed! wah! *insert sense of entitlement*" Look games moved on and the modern gamer expects more from a game than they did in the late 90's where it was fine to have simpler graphics and tons of text to read but now there is so much more that makes up a game even Mass Effect itself was very different in scope to what Bioware got famous for and it was still a well loved and great game. A little clunky and slow at times but they fixed that in the sequal.

Honestly i don't know what the OP is so upset about it seems like another hissy fit based on a sense of nostalgia making them view old games with rose colored spectacles.

And honestly if people want to cancel their preorders then go ahead you are entitled. It's your money but why do some people feel the need to come on here and tell everyone? Nobody cares what games you preordered and honestly i think if you actually were going to do it you just would instead of saying it on here. A lot of the complainers end up buying the game anyway.


If you think nobody cares about what I think, what makes you think someone thinks differently about you?


Well you must care since you cared enough to quote me and reply. So that makes me think somebody cares about me. Honestly i am flattered when can i expect my card and flowers?


I care about you... But I'm not promising any flowers.


I at least want a lobster dinner


Sounds expensive, you better put out.

I mean, I will enjoy the night regardless, as I'm sure the quality of our conversation and your company is without peer, and it would bring me great joy just to see you content.


I only put out after 6 dates AND  a lobster dinner


There goes my train money.

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What really gets on my nerves is not the criticism, the constant badmouthing on bioware, how their current "direction" has something somehow related to CoD (i don't understand how, guess that everything one does not like in a game MUST be CoD related), how cinematics suck, how they are sold to EA, etc etc. That kind of ranting amazes me only so far that I don't understand why people who hate the company are still here spreading hated, cynicism and general misanthropy.

What bugs me is the constant patronizing tone which these characters speak, all in their high horses teaching us that if we like the current state of affairs then we are either blind, in denial, stupid, COD fans (i still fail to get this one), bad "recent" fans who are substituting the "real good" fans of past golden bioware times, etc etc.

An advice for all the pessimists: you are perfectly entitled to your pessimism, try not behaving like complete ass holes all the friggin time. That includes NOT JUDGING YOUR AUDIENCE. You don't know me nor my reasons for liking the series. So stop calling me "deluded" or saying that I am rationalizing the bad parts because "i want to believe". Stop assuming that your audience is dumber than you are and then perhaps BSN will restore itself to a saner state, at least like it was a month ago or something.