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[Sarevok Synder]

Well ME3 is most likely my last Bioware game, so I'm getting the collectors edition for old time’s sake. But yes, the DA2 déjà vu is definitely there.

[android654]

BounceDK wrote...

Safe to say this will be the last game I'll be getting from Bio, their quality and sense have severely dropped over the years. This was the last straw for me. ME3 = Bargain bin.

Same here, I'll wait until the semester is over until I actually buy it, I'm not excited enough to sacrifice studying for this game. I'm just not impressed with this like I was with their previous games.

Luckily The Witcher 2 comes out a week or two before I'm done with classes.

[Nerevar-as]

miltos33 wrote...

Some reactions kinda feels like deja vu but personally I thought that the ME3 demo was better than the DA2 demo.

ME3 demo combat felt much better to me than the previous ME games. Enemies can flush you out of cover, biotics have a good balance, not gamebreaking neither useless, all powers sem useful on Insanity, squadies are more than extra powers in combat... they´ve actually worked to improve the combat, instead of completely changing the feel of it without actually testing if the changes made the game better as DA2 felt to me.

[Sora Shepherd]

My god, BSN never wastes a minute to take a shot at DA2.

Did people completely forget the existence of Sonic Chronicles?

[Marta Rio]

Wasn't most of the hate for DA2 for the following reasons?
(1) Combat was changed from very traditional RPG to button masher.
(2) Repeated maps, especially during the main quest.
(3) A small world (limited mostly to Kirkwall) with not much in it.
(4) Some choices were completely disregarded (e.g. zombie characters).

As far as I can tell, ME won't suffer from these problems to the same degree, since:
(1) Combat has been tweaked in ME3, but the combat system hasn't been gutted and then completely revised.  It's still pretty darn similar to ME2.
(2) If this ends up being a problem in ME3, I will eat my socks.  I just can't see it being an issue, due to the longer development time, and the fact that the Bioware devs saw all the complaints about it after DA2 came out.
(3) We definitely are still running around the galaxy, as before.  Mucho cool locations with mucho people to shoot at and talk at.  I could list some of them here, but that probably counts as spoilers.
(4) I can see choices being brushed aside, and being used to flavor the game rather than significantly affect the plot outcomes.  (I've lowered my expectations enough that I'm not hoping for anything more than that).  But I don't expect Miranda to suddenly be alive even though I got her killed in the suicide mission.

Anyway, I don't think we should be shouting the skies are falling just because the demo isn't the most amazing thing ever.  For my money, the demo was satisfactory, and just left me wanting more of that sweet sweet ME heroin. 

Modifié par Marta Rio, 16 février 2012 - 02:49 .

[Alex_SM]

DiebytheSword wrote...

VeR0se wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

I feel sorry for those who didn't like DA2 and won't like Mass effect. XD

It seems Bioware can't please them anymore. They need to move on something else, another company. You wasted your time complaining about this game for one year. Will you waste another year of your life on this forum complaining about mass effect ?

LOL !

I bought DA2 played 2 minutes of it went back to the store and returned it. It was THAT bad. 

Mass Effect series is the only reason why I stick around bioware now. 

At 2 minutes you certainly gave that title a chance.

He did right, otherwise he would have lost precious time of his life. 

DA2 was a pretty bad game. There were good things, but not enough to make it good. 

For example the idea behind the story is nice (but not for DA2, but for a DA spin off), the execution is terrible, terrible. Internal coherence (which is not really a BW strenght) doesn't exist at all in very obvious ways. Gameplay wise was standarized to a hack-and-slash-with-pause and ended with all the DA tactical feeling, and "non-combat" gameplay was really dumbed down (push "heart" to flirt and instant win), also combats were less inspired (hated the obvious respawn, at least they could have hidden the places), etc... 

[Piddlestick]

@OP. Nope I don't see this pattern.

DA2 pissed people off because it wasn't DA:O2; had a weak confusing main story; too many fetch quests; serious deja vu level design; a final boss you never killed, and a number of childish character animations. (I'm trying to cut it short here, and I also believe DA2 had a lot of good things going for it too)

ME3 demo seems to be ME2 gameplay, with a ME1 level of character customisation. The demo is short. Main story, interaction and level design: no idea and we'll just have to wait and see.

Forum posts just seems to be about stuff that wasn't broken in ME2 yet somehow got "fixed", or ME2 gameplay feedback that's hasn't been addressed at all.

No DA2/ME3 pattern.

- TheStick.

Modifié par Piddlestick, 16 février 2012 - 03:05 .

[MarauderESP]

u´re forgeting the templars jumping from a second floor building with full plate armor and landing without broking a single bone

[Stalker]

It's not even close to the disappointment that DA2 demo was. There aren't significant changes like DA2 had.
Believe it or not,... I enjoyed the demo! 

[Armass81]

DA2 seems to have become a club for the fans to hit Bioware on the head forever, never played that game so cant comment on it from a personal play perspective. I think its good tough, it should remind Bioware and EA they are not immortal so to speak hehe.

Concerning ME3, at this point id still say dont look the gifthorse in a mouth. Play the full game first, then you can judge it.

Modifié par Armass81, 16 février 2012 - 02:59 .

[android654]

I actually liked the DA2 demo, the game's shortcomings did ruin the game for me. The ME3 demo doesn't have a problem with gameplay, the mechanics all moved in the right direction. ME3's problems lie with its writing quality and disregard for continuity.

[Abisco]

I enjoyed the demo. It was a letdown to some people, others it was amazing. I did not mind the animations.

[AndrewRogue]

Honestly, people saying DA2 are the worst confuse me.

Did DA2 have a lot of problems? Oh hell yeah. No denying that. But it didn't really do anything to descend into truly bad game territory (at least on the PC). Seriously, has anyone here actually played an honestly bad game? DA2 may be flawed, but it still had a number of things going for it.

Besides, it isn't like ME1 or DA:O were that great either. Really, Bioware has TOTALLY gone downhill since the Baldur's Gate series.

HO SNAP.

[AnubisOnly]

I think that ME3 will be good, but probably scores at metacritic will don't go that high like it was with me1/me3. Why? Because we have many great games on both consoles & PC (like The Witcher 2, BF3, Deus Ex: HR, Batman AC, Skyrim etc.), and me3 is not a great game (for now?) (bad animations, graphics & textures etc.). Too many people imagined that the finale of the trilogy will be a ''miracle''.

Modifié par Lucas1987Dion, 16 février 2012 - 03:14 .

[its the beast]

AndyXTheXGamer360 wrote...

The demo was a let down? That's weird because last time i checked the demo was pretty awesome.

THIS!!!

[Armass81]

AndrewRogue wrote...

Honestly, people saying DA2 are the worst confuse me.

Did DA2 have a lot of problems? Oh hell yeah. No denying that. But it didn't really do anything to descend into truly bad game territory (at least on the PC). Seriously, has anyone here actually played an honestly bad game? DA2 may be flawed, but it still had a number of things going for it.

Besides, it isn't like ME1 or DA:O were that great either. Really, Bioware has TOTALLY gone downhill since the Baldur's Gate series.

HO SNAP.

Honestly bad games would be like Mindjack and Thor. And they cost as much as ME3, you cant say DA2 is even a bad game compared to those what I mentioned. They sell unbelievably bad crap for 60 dollars/euros/whatever these days.... Compared to them even worst Bioware games are God.

Modifié par Armass81, 16 février 2012 - 03:14 .

[squee365]

I like video games.

[Pride Demon]

Rinor wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Nope. Plus DA2 never failed. It got an 79% metacritic on Xbox and 82% metacritic on PC and PS3, so all those whiny people saying it's a fail are just overreacting.

It has a 4.2 user Metacritic based on thousands of players. DA2 was a bad, bad game. Shouldn't have scored more than 4/10 in any magazine.

Not to nitpick, but following that reasoning, the player metacritic is in no way more credible than the megazine metacritic...
The votes for that 4.2 are roughly 3000, even if we were to assume DA2 only sold 500000 copies (it actually sold more), that would still mean less than 1% of the players actually voted there...

Unless you have a worldwide survey that scans for at least a nice chunk of the players (something that probably no one, aside from the actual developers and publishers, can do) those marks will remain disputable...

Modifié par Pride Demon, 16 février 2012 - 03:26 .

[Ianamus]

Lucas1987Dion wrote...

I think that ME3 will be good, but probably scores at metacritic will don't go that high like it was with me1/me3. Why? Because we have many great games on both consoles & PC (like The Witcher 2, BF3, Deus Ex: HR, Batman AC, Skyrim etc.), and me3 is not a great game (for now?) (bad animations, graphics & textures etc.). Too many people imagined that the finale of the trilogy will be a ''miracle''.

But then animations and textures in the last two games weren't that bad. Believing that ME3's would be at least the same isn't exactly a stretch. 

Since when is having the same quality as the last two games a "miracle"?

And meteric is a really bad way of judging a game's quality. More than 50% of reviews are a 1/0 or a 10. Those people seem to think every game is marmite.

Modifié par EJ107, 16 février 2012 - 03:19 .

[AnubisOnly]

DA2 is not that bad, but also not that good, I think DA2 should have a medium score at 6,5/10 ;-)

[Arkitekt]

Yeah its just like da2, except I enjoyed the demo pretty much, so uh no.

[nitefyre410]

AndrewRogue wrote...

Honestly, people saying DA2 are the worst confuse me.

Did DA2 have a lot of problems? Oh hell yeah. No denying that. But it didn't really do anything to descend into truly bad game territory (at least on the PC). Seriously, has anyone here actually played an honestly bad game? DA2 may be flawed, but it still had a number of things going for it.

Besides, it isn't like ME1 or DA:O were that great either. Really, Bioware has TOTALLY gone downhill since the Baldur's Gate series.

HO SNAP.

 

Oh don' t go speaking the truth...  now.   

Though I would not say that they have gone down as it more of the fact that ME  and DA  are there first too  big  Original IP's. Where is BG and Kotor had established  lore and mechinics that were already in place  for them.  These two series they had to build from the ground up. 

 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 16 février 2012 - 03:24 .

[puppy maclove]

I'm getting that DA2 Déjà vu feeling too..... reading the reactions of people.

However, as much as I hated DA2 (I still look at the box and cringe)... I'm going to wait for the final release version of ME3 to come out and judge it then. Luckily, I didn't make the mistake of pre-ordering this time!!!!

[squee365]

No wonder Casey is so upset with the players.

People are confusing his team with the DA2 team again...