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[Valikdu]

dragon_83 wrote...

Biodrones appear and defend DA2, main reason: this is just a demo, the final version will be better.

You are dead! Not big surprise.

[Sylvianus]

The PLC wrote...

I don't understand how anyone could hate this demo. It's just like ME2, but better in every area.

M2 didn't have any demo before the release. People would have reacted the same if there had had a demo.

[squee365]

Sylvianus wrote...

The PLC wrote...

I don't understand how anyone could hate this demo. It's just like ME2, but better in every area.

M2 didn't have any demo before the release. People would have reacted the same if there had had a demo.

The same?
Are you kidding?



It would've been 60 times worse! and you know it.

[OmegaBlue0231]

No, as long as the one flaw with DA2 doesn't happen with ME3. And that flaw is nostalgia.

[Sylvianus]

squee365 wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

The PLC wrote...

I don't understand how anyone could hate this demo. It's just like ME2, but better in every area.

M2 didn't have any demo before the release. People would have reacted the same if there had had a demo.

The same?
Are you kidding?



It would've been 60 times worse! and you know it.

Yeah.  That was just euphemism.

[1Nosphorus1]

makalathbonagin wrote...
the only biodrones i know are the ones that are ****ing and crying without giving any kind of proper feedback to bioware in order to improve the game before the release

and blame microsoft not bw... hehe

I guess you don't know what a Biodrone is, Microsoft published Mass Effect so we have them to thank for the beginning of the series.

[General User]

squee365 wrote...

No wonder Casey is so upset with the players.

People are confusing his team with the DA2 team again...

DA2 was like dog poo on someone's shoe, no matter who tracked it into Bioware's house, it stunk up the whole place.

It was that bad.

Modifié par General User, 16 février 2012 - 03:35 .

[Bummlmitz2]

The PLC wrote...

I don't understand how anyone could hate this demo. It's just like ME2, but better in every area.

Post the link to your demo download. I must have played something different then...

[AlanC9]

Alex_SM wrote...
Internal coherence (which is not really a BW strenght) doesn't exist at all in very obvious ways........and "non-combat" gameplay was really dumbed down (push "heart" to flirt and instant win), also combats were less inspired (hated the obvious respawn, at least they could have hidden the places), etc... 

These two are pretty much the same thing, really. It's not that DA2 had any failings that Bio games don't always have, it's just that the game was honest enough in its presentation that people can't delude themseves into thinking that these failings aren't there.

[Armass81]

The game did only have 1 year development window tough, so people should have been expecting something not so great...

Modifié par Armass81, 16 février 2012 - 03:41 .

[furryrage59]

OmegaBlue0231 wrote...

No, as long as the one flaw with DA2 doesn't happen with ME3. And that flaw is nostalgia.

One flaw in DA:2?

Nostalgia over a 2 year old game?

Lolwut seems to express my thoughts on your post.

[darthmoriquendi]

OMFG. the game is not even released but a partial demo. Plz go away you trolll..........ME3 is gonna own and its the only thing that will pull me away from swtor at the moment.  Some people are just so ignorant commenting on crap they have no clue about.  How can you possibly judge wnen you haven't played the full game?  /ignore

Modifié par darthmoriquendi, 16 février 2012 - 03:43 .

[1Nosphorus1]

darthmoriquendi wrote...

OMFG. the game is not even released but a partial demo. Plz go away you trolll..........ME3 is gonna own and its the only thing that will pull me away from swtor at the moment.  Some people are just so ignorant commenting on crap they have no clue about.  How can you possibly judge wnen you haven't played the full game?  /ignore

They promised a trial, they advertised ME3 as starting with a trial.

Their response when they tell the community that the demo is how the game starts? "LOLWUT NEW PLAYERS WUDNT UNDERSTAND".

Wouldn't understand is exactly what I got from the demo, who the hell is Vega and why is he my buddy, why is my Shepard a jackass ("But the fights here derp"), why is the Normandy an alliance vessel again? 

DID I BLACK OUT FOR 6 MONTHS?

[Draconis6666]

Pride Demon wrote...

Rinor wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Nope. Plus DA2 never failed. It got an 79% metacritic on Xbox and 82% metacritic on PC and PS3, so all those whiny people saying it's a fail are just overreacting.

It has a 4.2 user Metacritic based on thousands of players. DA2 was a bad, bad game. Shouldn't have scored more than 4/10 in any magazine.

Not to nitpick, but following that reasoning, the player metacritic is in no way more credible than the megazine metacritic...
The votes for that 4.2 are roughly 3000, even if we were to assume DA2 only sold 500000 copies (it actually sold more), that would still mean less than 1% of the players actually voted there...

Unless you have a worldwide survey that scans for at least a nice chunk of the players (something that probably no one, aside from the actual developers and publishers, can do) those marks will remain disputable...

The user reviews are even less reliable also since it includes reviews from people who never even played the game and just gave it all 1s because they wanted to rip on the game and then point to its pointles user metacritic score to tell everyone I told you so

[furryrage59]

Pride Demon wrote...

Rinor wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Nope. Plus DA2 never failed. It got an 79% metacritic on Xbox and 82% metacritic on PC and PS3, so all those whiny people saying it's a fail are just overreacting.

It has a 4.2 user Metacritic based on thousands of players. DA2 was a bad, bad game. Shouldn't have scored more than 4/10 in any magazine.

Not to nitpick, but following that reasoning, the player metacritic is in no way more credible than the megazine metacritic...
The votes for that 4.2 are roughly 3000, even if we were to assume DA2 only sold 500000 copies (it actually sold more), that would still mean less than 1% of the players actually voted there...

Unless you have a worldwide survey that scans for at least a nice chunk of the players (something that probably no one, aside from the actual developers and publishers, can do) those marks will remain disputable...

Would trust thousands of unpaid players vs indivudual paid reviewers anytime.

[Sgt Stryker]

What if those thousands of unpaid players simply have an axe to grind with a company for past decisions that they disagreed with, and are not judging a game solely on its own merits/demerits? What if those players did not actually play the game or even the demo, and are bandwagon-ing?

Modifié par Sgt Stryker, 16 février 2012 - 03:55 .

[1Nosphorus1]

furryrage59 wrote...Would trust thousands of unpaid players vs indivudual paid reviewers anytime.

Remember that one time that a Bioware employee went on metacritic and gave DA2 a 10/10 calling all people who found problems with the game an overreaction of personal preference and that the game was flawlessly executed providing endless amounts of entertainment?

Yeah those were good times.

[Ravenmyste]

prothytheprothean wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

prothytheprothean wrote...

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

CrustyBot wrote...

Mass Effect 3 will be the pinnacle of emotional engagement, moral choice and thought provoking depth. If you think you won't be receiving a sublime cinematic narrative experience watching Shepard blast aliens, husks, Reapers and having sex with his/her squadmates, then GTFO.

We don't need your negativity ruining everyone else's fun.

I agree... I mean, when that child said "everyone's dying" and "you can't help me", wow, tears ran down my cheeks.

Then when the child was killed on the shuttle, wow, it really played with my emotions. I never knew the reapers could be so evil. It's like a real fight for survival now, man, woman and child.

And when Ashley/kaiden says "welcome aboard, commander" and shep just says "thanks"

Holy cow, it deserves a goddamn pulitzer award. Just beautiful.

ME3 signifies the end of an era of primitive, neanderthal writing and paves the way for a new type of glorious intellectualism.

wow. i think you actually changed duncaaaaaaaaaan!

YEAH ITS NOT LIKE IM BEING SARCASTIC OR ANYTHING SO YOUR SIMPLE MIND WILL UNDERSTAND ME!!!

EXACTLY! WELL DONE DUNCAAAAAAAAN YOU ARE OFFICIALLY NOT A TROLL

wait who classifed him as  troll the first place:unsure:, i thought he was the comedy relief that we needed to keep us from acting so serious,

[Rune-Chan]

I wouldn't be surprised, but to be honest, most of the complaints made regarding the demo and other things have been graphical rather than game-play issues. Dragon Age 2 had some rather glaring game-play failures that Bioware tried to down-play, in this regards it seems more like it just lacks polish.

Still not great from a company who should know better by now and stop rushing their games, but it doesn't seem game-breaking.

[furryrage59]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

What if those thousands of unpaid players simply have an axe to grind with a company for past decisions that they disagreed with, and are not judging a game solely on its own merits/demerits? What if those players did not actually play the game or even the demo, and are bandwagon-ing?

Most of the people i know who put reviews on here did exactly that.

Such a tired old excuse, the fact of the matter is that a lot of people really did not like it at all, and if you looked through the reviews they even detaik why.

I reviewed it and gabe it 2 if i remember (been awhile). The literal ONLY thing that i liked in the entire game, was the look of the quin'ari. Everything else was painful for more reasons than i can be bothered to explain here.

No way does it deserve the high marks some people have given, bordering ridiculous.

Edit - spelling is iffy, tired, don't care.

Modifié par furryrage59, 16 février 2012 - 04:00 .

[TheCreeper]

DA2 was rushed, the Mods even kinda admit to that. ME3 has had more time and more money devoted to it.

[furryrage59]

1Nosphorus1 wrote...

furryrage59 wrote...Would trust thousands of unpaid players vs indivudual paid reviewers anytime.

Remember that one time that a Bioware employee went on metacritic and gave DA2 a 10/10 calling all people who found problems with the game an overreaction of personal preference and that the game was flawlessly executed providing endless amounts of entertainment?

Yeah those were good times.

Yeah i do, for shame.

[Alex_SM]

Draconis6666 wrote...

Pride Demon wrote...

Rinor wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Nope. Plus DA2 never failed. It got an 79% metacritic on Xbox and 82% metacritic on PC and PS3, so all those whiny people saying it's a fail are just overreacting.

It has a 4.2 user Metacritic based on thousands of players. DA2 was a bad, bad game. Shouldn't have scored more than 4/10 in any magazine.

Not to nitpick, but following that reasoning, the player metacritic is in no way more credible than the megazine metacritic...
The votes for that 4.2 are roughly 3000, even if we were to assume DA2 only sold 500000 copies (it actually sold more), that would still mean less than 1% of the players actually voted there...

Unless you have a worldwide survey that scans for at least a nice chunk of the players (something that probably no one, aside from the actual developers and publishers, can do) those marks will remain disputable...

The user reviews are even less reliable also since it includes reviews from people who never even played the game and just gave it all 1s because they wanted to rip on the game and then point to its pointles user metacritic score to tell everyone I told you so

The press reviews are even less reliable since the chance to continue doing their job depends on the rating they give to big-publishers games.

It's been admitted many times by press reviewers that if they give low ratings to "big games" they get out of the circuit of early betas, press exclusive shows, copies-to-review for free, etc... also that only reviews allowed to show up before release (ie, those getting thousands of readers, and big advertising income) are the ones over a certain rating. 

So it's really really safe to say that press ratings are not just biased, but completely made up. 

[Chuvvy]

There will be a ****storm, it's coming, this is just a small shower compared to the hurricane headed our way. I don't think it will be as big as DA2s though.