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[Sgt Stryker]

furryrage59 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

What if those thousands of unpaid players simply have an axe to grind with a company for past decisions that they disagreed with, and are not judging a game solely on its own merits/demerits? What if those players did not actually play the game or even the demo, and are bandwagon-ing?

Most of the people i know who put reviews on here did exactly that.

Such a tired old excuse, the fact of the matter is that a lot of people really did not like it at all, and if you looked through the reviews they even detaik why.

I reviewed it and gabe it 2 if i remember (been awhile). The literal ONLY thing that i liked in the entire game, was the look of the quin'ari. Everything else was painful for more reasons than i can be bothered to explain here.

No way does it deserve the high marks some people have given, bordering ridiculous.

Edit - spelling is iffy, tired, don't care.

Sure, but I still think the opinion of some anonymous person hiding behind a username is worth about as much as the opinion of a professional reviewer whose site gets... how do I say... incentives to publish favorable reviews. In other words, neither opinion is worth much to me.

[ironcreed2]

Dragon Age 2 was a complete detour from Origins, while Mass Effect 3 is finishing the story that was originally started. Can't ask for more than that. I just want the conclusion I have been waiting for since 2007 and this is it. Could not be more excited for it.

[Luigitornado]

Oh yes because Mass Effect 3 is Dragon Age 2.

[TK Dude]

 I have a great idea. Wait till the game comes out, play it. If it's good, then nothing of value was lost. If it sucks, you can throw your own ''I told you so!'' moment anytime you want. 

[AlanC9]

furryrage59 wrote...
Such a tired old excuse, the fact of the matter is that a lot of people really did not like it at all, and if you looked through the reviews they even detaik why.

Sure. And "a lot" of people liked it just fine, and "a lot" of people thought it was OK.

Edit: Not saying that DA2 was a particularly good game or anything. It's just that using terms like "a lot" is no way to make an argument. 

Modifié par AlanC9, 16 février 2012 - 04:21 .

[houldendub]

TK Dude wrote...

 I have a great idea. Wait till the game comes out, play it. If it's good, then nothing of value was lost. If it sucks, you can throw your own ''I told you so!'' moment anytime you want. 

I have played it.

It's why they released a demo.

[Igib]

*appears* No matter how bad (or good) ME3 will be, it'll never be as bad as DA2. *disappears*

[Loreshield]

dragon_83 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 demo released
Demo is a abomination letdown

Actually, I think fewer people than you might think would agree with you on that, considering that you appear to consider it a fact.

[Armass81]

TK Dude wrote...

 I have a great idea. Wait till the game comes out, play it. If it's good, then nothing of value was lost. If it sucks, you can throw your own ''I told you so!'' moment anytime you want. 

This is what ive been suggesting. No one listens...

[Alithinos]

I think that some people are gonna like ME3 more than past games of the series,and for others it will be the worst.

I make this guess because from the demo I got the feeling that the game became even more shooter and even less an rpg.
And on one side you got people who where introduced to the series back with ME1 and the game was marketed to them as a evolutionary RPG,and thus they expected to have a RPG trilogy,and from the other side you will have shooter fans who doesn't like RPGs saying and think that Mass Effect is yet another game like GoW but with friendly aliens being there too.

So yeah, in the ME3 demo didn't demonstrated any side-quests or character development,trading,exploration and other rpg stuff,but it did demonstrated squad based combat,new combat moves,new gun mechanics...
It's pretty clear that the demo is targeting to capture new fans from the Gears of War,Call of Duty audience instead of let's say the Witcher or Skyrim audience.

Personally I like both shooters and rpgs but I think that for Mass Effect,at least for the main trilogy Bioware should stick hard to the RPG genre and focus on expanding the game RPG-wise and not TPS-wise. Because that was how I was introduced in the series.
I became interested in that a game that was named Mass Effect because I heard it was a huge and deep RPG with great cinematic story,more exploration,and deeper character development than other games.
Mass Effect's motto was "A whole galaxy to explore with unique races to meet",no "It's time to fight so grab your gun and blow the other guy's head off".

But that doesn't mean it won't be a good game.
It will be a very good game,but for a third person shooter. If you look it that way you will find its story and longtitude more than enough and like it.If you look at it as an RPG you are just going to say "wtf?? This is more like Call of Duty: Future Warfare than Dragon Age or Dark Souls in space."

Modifié par Alithinos, 16 février 2012 - 04:29 .

[AlexXIV]

I rather think it will have the same fate as ME2 tbh. Things that disturb me most about what I know of ME3 are pretty much in ME2 as well. And I love ME2. Despite the things I don't like about it or I think that are missing.

[Sylvianus]

I agree however that the demo didn't show much the rpg side except in the gameplay.

[AJRimmsey]

Sgt Stryker wrote...
Sure, but I still think the opinion of some anonymous person hiding behind a username is worth about as much as the opinion of a professional reviewer whose site gets... how do I say... incentives to publish favorable reviews. In other words, neither opinion is worth much to me.

if the day ever came when any internet users opinion meant ,had any effect or changed anyones mind on any subject whatsoever.the internet would instantly disappear up its own serial port in a flash of non sensical causality effect.

we dont remember anything that

A: doesnt make us laugh
B: makes us weep

every post on every forum everywhere was a total waste of time and keystrokes..

like this one....

[Texhnolyze101]

ME3 will be fine shhh.

[RazorrX]

I think there is a profound difference between the DA2 demo/game and ME3 demo/game. With the Dragon Age franchise they actually changed genres more or less between Origins and 2. Origins was much more a traditional fantasy RPG where for 2 they went with a more action RPG. In some things this actually worked well and in others it failed horribly to some. I will go on record as saying that while there were some things I liked about DA2 - I dislike the game as a whole and think the 4/10 rating quite fair.

Now Mass Effect has always been an action RPG. ME 2 improved on the shooter side of the game and made it much more popular (in fact the improvement between ME1 and ME2 can be said to be a prime reason that Alpha Protocol got blasted for its shooter elements). The skills were slimmed down, many felt that they sacrificed RPG for shooter, etc. but the game was still fun and it was still ME.

So yes, the Demo is very shooter geared, with little to no RPG shown. But that does not mean the game will be the same (it may end up that way but we are not sure). Leaked Beta video showed more dialog and different dialog to what we saw with the demo (much better at times imo). I still have hope/faith that the final product will include more RPG elements even in the scenes we have already played with the demo.

[Savber100]

Mass Effect 3 is more of the same of ME2 but bigger and just slightly more complex in terms of gameplay.

If you like ME2, I honestly can't see how you'll hate ME3 unless it's story-related (like bad fate for fav character etc).

Dragon Age 2, on the other hand, was an utter betrayal of the concepts it originally stood for.

[Matt251287]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

COOL STORY BRO

ME3 WILL BE THE BEST

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T BUY IT

WHY ARE U EVEN HERE?

ME3 IS THE BEST GAME EVER.

I-IT'S JUST A DEMO

THEY'LL PATCH IT

IT'S AN OLD BUILD

IT JUST A DEMO

UR A TROLL WITH NOTHING BETTER TO DO

U JUST A H8R

I DON'T WANNA BE ALONE

It's like they have their own dictionary. I heard some of the pages are in back to front and a third of it is accidentaly in spanish also if you get the hardback which is about twice the size of the paperback, you just get the paperback pages printed in the centre of the larger page - upsidedown.

But goshdamn will they rag on you if you criticise that publication.


 
Seriously i wish Biodrones had some identifier on their posts because right now i can't tell if 2/3rds of this community would actually drink bleach if you told them it was cream.

 

Modifié par Matt251287, 16 février 2012 - 04:38 .

[Cobra5]

ME3 visits more then one location.

That, right there, alone, makes it better then DA2 ever was.

It has yet to be seen if ME3 is a let down for the series, only playing the game will tell us that, and I don't think there would ever be consensus anyway.

[The_mango55]

I, for one, don't expect the full game to be much different from the part of the demo that was shown...


Nor does it need to be. I'm honestly perplexed by all the people who are enraged by the demo. I thought it was very fun. I can't seem to figure out the problems people have with it, assuming they enjoyed ME2.

[JeffZero]

 Except for many of us free-thinking, relatively critical individuals the demo wasn't a letdown.

[AlanC9]

1Nosphorus1 wrote...
They promised a trial, they advertised ME3 as starting with a trial.

I don't remember it quite like this  -- I remember that they showed a demo somewhere sometime with a trial in it, but I don't remember a trial being promised or advertised. Am I remembering right?

[TheoCN]

Xewaka wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...
Nope. Plus DA2 never failed. It got an 79% metacritic on Xbox and 82% metacritic on PC and PS3, so all those whiny people saying it's a fail are just overreacting.

Context. The only games that had a lower score in metacritic are Sonic Chronicles and (inexplicably) Jade Empire.  The rest of Bioware games rank in 88+. According to the critic, DA 2 is below average quality for a Bioware title.

May i have your babies? ah nvm, you f**** that guy so hard that he is already having.

and DA2 was so bad that i couldnt finish, and based on the ME3 demo, i think i know the second game i wont finish.

[Excalceo]

Granted anything can happen, but I highly doubt ME3 will suffer the same fate a DA2.

1) Longer development time.  DA2 = A little over a year, ME3 = 2 Years
2) Bioware didn't even want to make DA2 at the time.  Pressure from EA forced them to cut corners and ultimately release a medicore product.
3) Multiple studios at the helm.  Edmonton, Montreal, and DICE in Sweden are all working on ME3 versus DA2 which only had Edmonton in the project.
3) "Luckluster" opinion of Demo is all heresay.  I've seen just as many people say the demo was awesome, versus the DA2 demo which pretty universally hated.
4) DA2 subtracted features from its predecessor, ME3 added features (weapon customization, deeper skill trees, updated gameplay).

DA2 really did a number on BSN, the amount whining and nitpicking has just compounded since then.

[Nohvarr]

I respectuflly disagree with he OP. Nothing I've seen in the demo, read in the various articles suggests that ME 3 is going to be a massive disappointment to the majority of gamers. Oh sure there will be a group that hates the game, but that's always been true. I imagine some people will be very vocal about their hate, but I don't see the mass hatred some imagine n the Horizon.

ME 2 had people claiming that RPG fans would rise up and overthrow the game, which then went on to win a surprising number of Game of the Year Awards. This new game appears to be building on that success, so I doubt we'll have a repeat of DA 2.