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[Capeo]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

N00blet666 wrote...

I don't know anything about the FPS issue but for the graphics comparison xbox just has a bit more contrast. Is a little bit more contrast going to destroy your experience? People look at these comparisons as if they are so different. As if on ps3 everything is LOD'd or something.

   


The PS3 has 256 MB of Ram where as the 360 has 512mb of ram . 

The PS3 also has cell processors that aren't being used when they just do a cheap port which is apparently what they plan to do.  The reason games like UC, Killzone and God of War 3 look and perform so well is because some of the computational work is passed off to individual processors.  Apparently BW doesn't want to optimize their programming for the PS3 which is BS, honestly.

[Feanor_II]

I just had a quick shot at the PS3 demo and I find it inferior to PC:
- Worst framerate
- The water on Earth mission looks worse, there are parts where it doesn't move a single cm.
- Tell me whatever you want, a mouse is better for shooting that messing with the sticks

[Alkastelca]

Alkastelca wrote...

''More than that, we also seem to be seeing
that the PS3 version sometimes misses the 20FPS refresh, making the
stall even more pronounced, resulting in some drops down to 15FPS - not
good at all.''


15FPS Bioware

15FPS

WTF ?!?!

[Ohei]

N7Raider wrote...

Ohei wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

l7986 wrote...

I like the whole argument that since ps3 users get some extra dlc in some games that we shouldnt be allowed to have the same graphics quality as the 360.

that wasn't the point, the point was that the OP was saying the PS3 was getting short changed for graphical differences or something and I was just pointing out how the 360 versions get short changed cause PS3 versions get extra dlc for free.  At what point did I ever say the PS3 should have worse graphics.  

PS3 version of ME2 came out a whole year later. The package included all the DLC as BioWare wanting to ''make up for it.''
It was their treat. We didn't ask for it. We were thankful for it. PERIOD.
We are not asking for 3294832948329483294832 packs of DLC. We simply want the game to perform properly, what part of that can your brain not process?

Get the fvck over it you whiny little b!tch I thought you were talking about graphics, I didn't read you're fvcking long ass wall of text that's that.  You wanna b!tch about framrate fine, that's actually a problem but don't bring up graphics than, other people were bringing it up graphics too so that was why I got confused.  You wanna say what the problem is fine but don't go and start overly attackings some one for bringing up an argument when they don't even know what the hell you're ****ing about you stupid ass cvnt.  

Good game, mate. I laughed at least. 8/10.

Oh, reported, by the way.

[Novolizer]

Ok I'm gonna try and get this thread back on track a bit. Thanks for vid OP, that really validated the point about the framerate, I was trying to find something like that for a while just to make sure I wasn't seeing things . I'm sure the guys at Bioware are fully aware of the situation with the PS3 framerate considering the number of posts/threads about the issue, and that vid provides fairly conclusive proof. Now they need to address it. Like others have said, they arent gonna come out and say "sorry, we rushed the PS3 port but it'll be fine, dont worry". What this whole thread is about is to get the attention of Bioware and TRY and get them to tell us PS3 gamers what they are going to/have done to address the issue because the issue is *clearly* there. If they came across this issue during testing and they have addressed it for the final build then they should tell us. If not, and the issue will still be present on the full release, then their silence will be just as telling...

Modifié par Novolizer, 16 février 2012 - 07:04 .

[mauro2222]

Ohei wrote...

Let me add a little something here.
I live in Argentina. Games here, the standard versions? They are about 120-130 U$D.
That's about double the price most people pay.


Please understand where the concern is coming from, at least from my point of view.

My Collector's Edition is hanging in the air until someone from Bioware explains all this mess with the demo.

We're both from Argentina and games are not cheap as you have read before. The game has gone gold and the demo is not an old build, so if I'm gonna pay for something that's unpolished, have lots of bugs and framerates issues... later, I don't wanna hear a single complain about piracy. I think that with such budget and time, you could have done better.

[Calibrationmaster]

Ohei wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

Ohei wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

l7986 wrote...

I like the whole argument that since ps3 users get some extra dlc in some games that we shouldnt be allowed to have the same graphics quality as the 360.

that wasn't the point, the point was that the OP was saying the PS3 was getting short changed for graphical differences or something and I was just pointing out how the 360 versions get short changed cause PS3 versions get extra dlc for free.  At what point did I ever say the PS3 should have worse graphics.  

PS3 version of ME2 came out a whole year later. The package included all the DLC as BioWare wanting to ''make up for it.''
It was their treat. We didn't ask for it. We were thankful for it. PERIOD.
We are not asking for 3294832948329483294832 packs of DLC. We simply want the game to perform properly, what part of that can your brain not process?

Get the fvck over it you whiny little b!tch I thought you were talking about graphics, I didn't read you're fvcking long ass wall of text that's that.  You wanna b!tch about framrate fine, that's actually a problem but don't bring up graphics than, other people were bringing it up graphics too so that was why I got confused.  You wanna say what the problem is fine but don't go and start overly attackings some one for bringing up an argument when they don't even know what the hell you're ****ing about you stupid ass cvnt.  

Good game, mate. I laughed at least. 8/10.

Oh, reported, by the way.

add this to the thread please : http://www.eurogamer...-demos-analysed

[Favourite store on the CitadeI]

This is why I think BW should have released ME3 as a public beta way back in November, so they could tweak things, just like the Starhawk beta on PS3 atm

[Alkastelca]

Novolizer wrote...

Ok I'm gonna try and get this thread back on track a bit. Thanks for vid OP, that really validated the point about the framerate, I was trying to find something like that for a while just to make sure I wasn't seeing things . I'm sure the guys at Bioware are fully aware of the situation with the PS3 framerate considering the number of posts/threads about the issue, and that vid provides fairly conclusive proof. Now they need to address it. Like others have said, they arent gonna come out and say "sorry, we rushed the PS3 port but it'll be fine, dont worry". What this whole thread is about is to get the attention of Bioware and TRY and get them to tell us PS3 gamers what they are going to/have done to address the issue because the issue is *clearly* there. If they came across this issue during testing and they have addressed it for the final build then they should tell us. If not and issue will still be present on the full release, then their silence will be just as telling...

+1

I was excited and i've preordered  the CE..... but after playing the demo...

If we get no answers from Bioware i'll cancel the preorder....

[Ohei]

Calibrationmaster wrote...

Ohei wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

Ohei wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

l7986 wrote...

I like the whole argument that since ps3 users get some extra dlc in some games that we shouldnt be allowed to have the same graphics quality as the 360.

that wasn't the point, the point was that the OP was saying the PS3 was getting short changed for graphical differences or something and I was just pointing out how the 360 versions get short changed cause PS3 versions get extra dlc for free.  At what point did I ever say the PS3 should have worse graphics.  

PS3 version of ME2 came out a whole year later. The package included all the DLC as BioWare wanting to ''make up for it.''
It was their treat. We didn't ask for it. We were thankful for it. PERIOD.
We are not asking for 3294832948329483294832 packs of DLC. We simply want the game to perform properly, what part of that can your brain not process?

Get the fvck over it you whiny little b!tch I thought you were talking about graphics, I didn't read you're fvcking long ass wall of text that's that.  You wanna b!tch about framrate fine, that's actually a problem but don't bring up graphics than, other people were bringing it up graphics too so that was why I got confused.  You wanna say what the problem is fine but don't go and start overly attackings some one for bringing up an argument when they don't even know what the hell you're ****ing about you stupid ass cvnt.  

Good game, mate. I laughed at least. 8/10.

Oh, reported, by the way.

add this to the thread please : http://www.eurogamer...-demos-analysed

Done. (:

[mauro2222]

N7Raider wrote...

What you mean kinect?  I'm not talking about kinect I'm talking about dlc, extra characters or missions.  ME3 on 360 has no significant extra dlc that the PS3 version isn't getting unless you count the chakram launcher and extra armor to be significant.  As for the framerate, why would the framerate be any worse on the PS3 when ME2 on PS3 was already running on the ME3 engine?
You're assumption is beyond idiotic, at what point once have I ever brought up a damn thing about Sony?  Really can you lend me your super intrinsic analytical prowess so I can see where I ever once brought up Sony?  The only thing I ever said was PS3 games get free dlc that 360 versions don't get, never once did I say this was Sony's fault or anything about Sony.  If you're gonna try to end your post with some snide little remark at least say something of value not some arbitrary crap assumption you pulled out of nowhere.  

Are you stupid? Or you didn't take your mornig pills

Modifié par mauro2222, 16 février 2012 - 07:03 .

[Blarty]

I'm going to have a playthrough the PS3 demo later as I've gone through the 360 demo 3 times already and then I'll decide whether people watching the head 2 head videos are watching the actual gameplay for frame rate stutters or just watching the FPS value along the bottom and shouting 'oh noes!!!11!! Da frameratez!!!!' and, for the record I'm getting the collectors edition for both ps3 and Xbox

[lolerk53]

I think that the multiplayer works well on the PS3 because when they created the demo, it was ported from the 360 demo but the multiplayer is harder to port, so they just taken it from the PS3 version and cut out the same maps and game modes.
Multiplayer takes completly new coding for each platform so it will be more cost effective to take what's already done.
So basicly the singleplayer is a port while multiplayer is not.

[Blarty]

Is it me or are all the comparisons only taking into account the introductory level and not the second part of the demo... Just thinking that the earth section may have been put out to pasture from a Dev perspective earlier than the Salarian level, given that apparently n they neede to do trimming and cutting in that level for the demo......

[Rickin10]

Blarty wrote...

I'm going to have a playthrough the PS3 demo later as I've gone through the 360 demo 3 times already and then I'll decide whether people watching the head 2 head videos are watching the actual gameplay for frame rate stutters or just watching the FPS value along the bottom and shouting 'oh noes!!!11!! Da frameratez!!!!' and, for the record I'm getting the collectors edition for both ps3 and Xbox

Same as me, mate.  I've got the CE for both on order.  Played the 360 version a lot and came to the ps3 version this morning with no preconceptions and was truly shocked how appalling the frame rate was.

[lolerk53]

Blarty wrote...

I'm going to have a playthrough the PS3 demo later as I've gone through the 360 demo 3 times already and then I'll decide whether people watching the head 2 head videos are watching the actual gameplay for frame rate stutters or just watching the FPS value along the bottom and shouting 'oh noes!!!11!! Da frameratez!!!!' and, for the record I'm getting the collectors edition for both ps3 and Xbox

My system wont drop in FPS, I always get lucky in everygame, when others get FPS drops I dont.
But my friends system? Its fricking unplayable, I CANT AIM WITHOUT THE FPS DROPS MAKING ME OVERSHOOT THE TARGET!

[Unit-Alpha]

Actually, I'm gonna say at this point I would prefer the 360 version over the PC version. The PC version is just so underwhelming and the 360 version gets all the love from Bioware.

[BounceDK]

There's issues on pc as well. Good thing they took their time to implement an in-game shop and not waste time making the actual game work. Wait what?

[VivaLaWhatsername]

Firstly to the OP, very well put post I applaud your matureness and facts.

Secondly, I have both a PS3 and an xbox (PS3 is my preferred console so I have the collectors edition pre-ordered on PS3) I too noticed slight differences in textures, brightness and sound.

Xbox seemed darker somehow than the PS3 and for some reason the ports to PS3 seem to look washed out these days, it was the same with Skyrim. In the picture the OP posted you can see slight differences in the textures, the xbox seeming more sharp than the PS3, but really? I don't care about that. Now the frame-rate issue, I only spotted it a bit when Shepard and Anderson are walking to the meeting, and I nearly had a heart attack thinking "Oh please say BioWare, that this wont be like this in the final product", I'm not too sure I could go through another annoying Skyrim moment, not that I am truly comparing Bethesda and BioWare but it is hard not to.
Now we all know it's a demo and as the OP said it would be brilliant to find out if the final product is the same or fixed, so to speak.

On an unrelated note, I felt the aiming in the PS3 version was a lot better than on xbox & overall, I enjoyed the demo immensely on both. Looking forward to the game coming out, and hope the frame-rate will indeed be fixed in the main game.

Modifié par xHezz90, 18 février 2012 - 09:56 .

[Alkastelca]

bump

[Alkastelca]

Why is Bioware ignoring this and similar threads ?

[Inquisitor Recon]

OP is complaining when the PS3 may be the reason the ability to holster weapons was removed?

No pity.

[MouseNo4]

Buy a PC.

[DJStarstryker]

I'm pretty sure the game was developed on the 360 and both the PS3 and PC versions are ports of that. It's not uncommon for PS3 ports of 360 games to have frame rate issues.