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[HTTPS 500]

Lol look at all the hate, for trying to create common ground. Oh well. Clearly you snobs are a lost cause.

[Vez04]

Oblivious wrote...

ME 2 took the record for most Game of the Year awards ever from Uncharted 2 in 2010 (Although Skyrim may have surpassed ME2) and is one of the few games constantly spinning in my PS3. Honestly, the BSN is ridiculous. The BSN equivelant of a "good" game is an old 8-bit text-based side scrolling RPG that relies exclusively on long, text-based problems for no actual reward or entertainment.

ME2 has better graphics, sound, and gameplay than ME1 so it's better. From the demo ME3 has better graphics, sound, and gameplay than ME2 so the demo is better. I'll have to wait on the story but between the improvements showcased in the demo and the extremely entertaining multiplayer it appears that ME3 will be the best in the series and I don't care what any "long-time faithful" fan has to say.

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Modifié par Vez04, 16 février 2012 - 05:48 .

[JeffZero]

HTTPS 500 wrote...

Lol look at all the hate, for trying to create common ground. Oh well. Clearly you snobs are a lost cause.

ohohohoho

hohohohoho

ohohohohoho

[Daeion]

I'll agree ME2 was worse then ME, but we haven't really played ME3, though I stopped about 2 minutes into the demo because I didn't like how things looked and anderson looked wrong. I will agree that the ME2 story pointless, we've made no actual progress from the first act to the end of the 2nd act. I mean it would have at least been one thing if we had convinced the galaxy that the reapers were coming, at least then I could agree that the story had moved forward.

[Zkyire]

HTTPS 500 wrote...

Man, so many arguments on these forums. I wonder how the moderators put up with everybody with out going insane (I feel for yah, Chris Priestly).

That said I won't to provide a little common ground. People disagree on multiplayer, homosexuality, the shooter mechanics, textures, diolauge, gameplay, customization, soundtrack, hell I could go on. But all that said I think we can agree that out of the ME1, MEG, ME2 and ME3, ME2 is and will be the worst, for several reasons.

To name a few:

1. Story was filler. 

2. Character backstories where not connected to the main plot in anyway, Dragon Age 2 did a good job at this.

3. Soundtrack was not as good as the previous game.

4. Combat was improved, but not improved enough. Mass Effect 3 has pervected the combat system, though the clunky and sketch gameplay of Mass Effect 1 will always have a place in my heart.

Story wasn't filler. It was a setup for ME3.

- Introduced the Thanix cannon as a potential defense against the Reapers.
- Introduced The Illusive Man and the extent of Cerberus' goals.
- Introduced a potential coming war between the Quarians and the Geth.
- Introduced the fact that the Reapers are going to exterminate all non-Humans.
- Introduced the fact that the Reapers don't want to exterminate Humans, but want to Reaperise them (meaning you know before hand that the Reapers will take their time with Earth and probably will leave saving it until you've saved all the other species first.
- Introduced Aria and possibly got her on better terms with Shepard.
- Liara is now the Shadow Broker and has a vast intelligence network at her disposal, and likely plenty of soldiers to follow her commands.
- Rewriting or destroying the Heretic Geth may have an impact on the coming war too.
- Showed you that even after blowing up a star system and killing 300,000 Batarians; Admiral Hackett STILL has your back.
- Introduced EDI and her now being unrestrained as a possible defense against enemies in ME3 too.


So no, it's not filler.

Have I missed anything else?

[JaegerBane]

No, we can't, because

a) the series is not finished
neither ME1 or ME2 was partcularly superior to the other, emphasising different things - at least in my opinion. And if you expect me to agree, you'd have to the same opinion. See?

[Paul E Dangerously]

JeffZero wrote...
Gathering those allies in ME2 wasn't useless. You got their s*** straight and they're going to help in the impossible fight that is ME3, each in their own way. If you hadn't slapped them onto your ship and smacked their daddy issues into oblivion they'd be in much darker places and far less capable of assisting in the war against the Reapers.

That's a nice way to think about it, but it's really Bioware just not wanting to do a lot of work. Take Dragon Age where you wound up with a lot of party members, and they've said they don't ever want to do that amount of work again. In ME3, all your choices go right out the freaking window so those guys can become cameos and be replaced by people who didn't have the guts to rejoin you in 2.

And that new guy who missed the cut for Gears of War.

[bino1191]

ME2 was f awesome ! deal with it !!!

[AlanC9]

I suppose I could agree that ME2 was the worst in the series... if someone erases my memory of ME1.

Is this a joke thread?

Modifié par AlanC9, 16 février 2012 - 05:50 .

[GalacticNomad17]

Edit: Whoops, signed in under my wife's name!

Modifié par GalacticNomad17, 16 février 2012 - 05:51 .

[tomorrowstation]

HTTPS 500 wrote...

Lol look at all the hate, for trying to create common ground. Oh well. Clearly you snobs are a lost cause.

Concern troll is shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you.

[HTTPS 500]

JaegerBane wrote...

No, we can't, because

a) the series is not finished
neither ME1 or ME2 was partcularly superior to the other, emphasising different things - at least in my opinion. And if you expect me to agree, you'd have to the same opinion. See?

If you pay attention to my post I said "will be", yeah it's not in the title. But "will be" as you said the series is not finished, but judgeing by the demo...

[JeffZero]

Sopa de Gato wrote...

JeffZero wrote...
Gathering those allies in ME2 wasn't useless. You got their s*** straight and they're going to help in the impossible fight that is ME3, each in their own way. If you hadn't slapped them onto your ship and smacked their daddy issues into oblivion they'd be in much darker places and far less capable of assisting in the war against the Reapers.

That's a nice way to think about it, but it's really Bioware just not wanting to do a lot of work. Take Dragon Age where you wound up with a lot of party members, and they've said they don't ever want to do that amount of work again. In ME3, all your choices go right out the freaking window so those guys can become cameos and be replaced by people who didn't have the guts to rejoin you in 2.

And that new guy who missed the cut for Gears of War.

Well that's another way of looking at it, I suppose, but from what little I've read about ME2-introduced squadmate storyline elements in ME3, I'm fairly pleased. So whatever the cause, the final product probably won't disappoint me.

I'm sure it will disappoint plenty of others though, lol.

[Takamori The Templar]

Errr nope?
They removed the rpg elements that made me a little grumpy ,but I still managed to enjoy a lot the game.
Though I'm very worried with ME3 because it looks like a downgrade from ME2.

[HTTPS 500]

JeffZero wrote...

HTTPS 500 wrote...

Lol look at all the hate, for trying to create common ground. Oh well. Clearly you snobs are a lost cause.

ohohohoho

hohohohoho

ohohohohoho

Teeheehee[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]

tomorrowstation wrote...

HTTPS 500 wrote...

Lol look at all the hate, for trying to create common ground. Oh well. Clearly you snobs are a lost cause.

Concern troll is shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you.

No I was expecting all the hate. What would be shocking if everybody did get along.

Modifié par HTTPS 500, 16 février 2012 - 05:53 .

[Yuoaman]

I do not agree with your assessment, sir or madam.

[AlanC9]

HTTPS 500 wrote...

Lol look at all the hate, for trying to create common ground. Oh well. Clearly you snobs are a lost cause.

How about trying to create common ground without trying to get people to agree to nonsense?

Concern troll or just a dumb idea? You make the call!

[harvestboygoobus]

HTTPS 500 wrote...

Man, so many arguments on these forums.
I wonder how the moderators put up with everybody with out going insane
(I feel for yah, Chris Priestly).

That said I won't to provide a
little common ground. People disagree on multiplayer, homosexuality,
the shooter mechanics, textures, diolauge, gameplay, customization,
soundtrack, hell I could go on. But all that said I think we can agree
that out of the ME1, MEG, ME2 and ME3, ME2 is and will be the worst, for
several reasons.

To name a few:

1. Story was filler.

That's an opinion. I view ME2's story in much the same light that other middle stories that are part of a trilogy go. It's not filler, but its purpose is to set up the final arc. Look at other trilogies--many of them follow this same basic principle.

2. Character backstories where not connected to the main plot in anyway, Dragon Age 2 did a good job at this.

Perhaps DA2 did a better job of connecting characters to the main storyline, yes, but these characters are more intimately connected to the overarching storyline of the ME universe, so I disagree with you here as well.

3. Soundtrack was not as good as the previous game.

Completely subjective, and I'll disagree with you wholeheartedly on this. While ME had some excellent music (and I'm still a little sore that there wasn't a proper ending theme in ME2), on a whole, I liked the music in ME2 more. That's just my own opinion, of course, and my opinion is just as subjective as yours.

4. Combat was
improved, but not improved enough. Mass Effect 3 has pervected the
combat system, though the clunky and sketch gameplay of Mass Effect 1
will always have a place in my heart.

It seems to me here that you are looking at ME2's combat through the eyes of a ME3 player. Just as ME1's combat was clunkier than ever after playing ME2, it's only natural that ME2 would have clunky combat when compared to, as you say, the "perfected" combat of ME3. At the time, however, fans and critics raved about how much of an improvement ME2's combat was. Not all fans, of course (the BSN will never be pleased, I swear), and that's not to say there weren't legitimate concerns brought up. But, at the time, ME2's system was lauded as a significant improvement, so, again, this comment is very subjective.

So, no, we can't just agree that ME2 was the worst in the series. And considering that you brought up Galaxies in that list, I'm fairly certain you might be trolling, so here I am, responding to something I probably shouldn't be.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie]Because that game was an awful mess, at least when it came to controls. I haven't played it in ages, so I can't comment much on its writing and music.

Modifié par harvestboygoobus, 16 février 2012 - 05:54 .

[JeffZero]

Zkyire wrote...

HTTPS 500 wrote...

Man, so many arguments on these forums. I wonder how the moderators put up with everybody with out going insane (I feel for yah, Chris Priestly).

That said I won't to provide a little common ground. People disagree on multiplayer, homosexuality, the shooter mechanics, textures, diolauge, gameplay, customization, soundtrack, hell I could go on. But all that said I think we can agree that out of the ME1, MEG, ME2 and ME3, ME2 is and will be the worst, for several reasons.

To name a few:

1. Story was filler. 

2. Character backstories where not connected to the main plot in anyway, Dragon Age 2 did a good job at this.

3. Soundtrack was not as good as the previous game.

4. Combat was improved, but not improved enough. Mass Effect 3 has pervected the combat system, though the clunky and sketch gameplay of Mass Effect 1 will always have a place in my heart.

Story wasn't filler. It was a setup for ME3.

- Introduced the Thanix cannon as a potential defense against the Reapers.
- Introduced The Illusive Man and the extent of Cerberus' goals.
- Introduced a potential coming war between the Quarians and the Geth.
- Introduced the fact that the Reapers are going to exterminate all non-Humans.
- Introduced the fact that the Reapers don't want to exterminate Humans, but want to Reaperise them (meaning you know before hand that the Reapers will take their time with Earth and probably will leave saving it until you've saved all the other species first.
- Introduced Aria and possibly got her on better terms with Shepard.
- Liara is now the Shadow Broker and has a vast intelligence network at her disposal, and likely plenty of soldiers to follow her commands.
- Rewriting or destroying the Heretic Geth may have an impact on the coming war too.
- Showed you that even after blowing up a star system and killing 300,000 Batarians; Admiral Hackett STILL has your back.
- Introduced EDI and her now being unrestrained as a possible defense against enemies in ME3 too.


So no, it's not filler.

Have I missed anything else?

Hell man, you forgot about all the genophage stuff even after typing all of that. Well done.

[wright1978]

ME2 was my favourite game of recent times. Much preferred it to ME1 and i have a distinct feeling they've gone off the rails in ME3 unfortunately.

[JeffZero]

HTTPS 500 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

HTTPS 500 wrote...

Lol look at all the hate, for trying to create common ground. Oh well. Clearly you snobs are a lost cause.

ohohohoho

hohohohoho

ohohohohoho

Teeheehee[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]

tomorrowstation wrote...

HTTPS 500 wrote...

Lol look at all the hate, for trying to create common ground. Oh well. Clearly you snobs are a lost cause.

Concern troll is shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you.

No I was expecting all the hate. What would be shocking if everybody did get along.

Actually you've done well, HTTP. You've united the majority of the thread against you.

[crimzontearz]

de gustibus non disputandum est

[AgitatedLemon]

prothytheprothean wrote...

Nope.avi
mass effect 2 had a great story line
the characters were awsome
the music was great
the combat was an improvement from mass effect 1

so NO we cannot agree that mass effect 2 was the worst in the series

This.

[JaegerBane]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Sopa de Gato wrote...

In ME3, all your choices go right out the freaking window so those guys can become cameos and be replaced by people who didn't have the guts to rejoin you in 2.

Out of the 7 party members in ME3, only two of them fit that description.

Where did you get that from? That there are 7 members?

(I'm not doubting you or calling your a liar, I just havent heard anywhere that's stated the number... since we only know about Garrus, Liara, Tali, Vega and the Virmire survivor, that leaves two unknowns)