No we can't because 3 isn't even out yet!
Unless... are you a wizard?
Can't we just agree that ME2 was the worst in the series.
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#152
Posté 23 février 2012 - 07:13
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I agree that ME2's story was meaningless, you don't deal with an actual reaper threat until you get the Arrival DLC.
However, the game was still fun.
However, the game was still fun.
#153
Posté 23 février 2012 - 07:14
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Jacen987 wrote...
Yes ME1 was truly better than ME2. Really, it boggles the mind, how so many disagree. Its like these people are not interested in playing RPGs...
Yes, because all RPG players ever agree with you about everything......
#155
Posté 23 février 2012 - 07:16
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All three games will go down as highly enjoyable by themselves but also as one of the worst trilogies of any media ever created.
#157
Posté 23 février 2012 - 07:17
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Sofia Lamb wrote...
One cannot really discuss the merits of Mass Effect 2's story until Mass Effect 3 is finished.
Nuff' said.
#158
Posté 23 février 2012 - 07:21
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ME2 had better combat but far worse story. ME3 is yet to be played so cannot decide for whole series.
#159
Posté 23 février 2012 - 07:21
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AlanC9 wrote...
Jacen987 wrote...
Yes ME1 was truly better than ME2. Really, it boggles the mind, how so many disagree. Its like these people are not interested in playing RPGs...
Yes, because all RPG players ever agree with you about everything......
Not really.. I simply do not understand. Not trying to imply superiority of my person, or opinion, in any way, shape or form....
Just how do heck does simplifiing,stripping and complete trashing tons of gameplay elements(some original, at that) make a for better RPG, that people enjoy MORE.... From MY PERSPECTIVE, all it leaves is a void.
I dont get it.
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#160
Posté 23 février 2012 - 07:23
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No. I prefer ME2 over ME1. ME1 ends in a much cooler way, but overall ME2 is better.
#161
Posté 23 février 2012 - 07:23
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Jacen987 wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
Jacen987 wrote...
Yes ME1 was truly better than ME2. Really, it boggles the mind, how so many disagree. Its like these people are not interested in playing RPGs...
Yes, because all RPG players ever agree with you about everything......
Not really.. I simply do not understand. Not trying to imply superiority of my person, in any way, shape or form....
OK. Shouldn't have snapped at you there. It's not like I really understand why you like ME1 better.
#162
Posté 23 février 2012 - 07:24
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I find it funny that the OP has been here long enough to recognize some typical arguments but not long enough to know that the ME2><ME1 discussion is the most contested of all discussions on the entire forum.
I also find it funny that he then used this highly contentious discussion to bring the forum together over what he mistakenly perceived to be common ground.
That's just all kinds of fail OP.
For the record, I think ME2 was the better game. People often say unsupported things like "the story is filler" and "it was just a straight shooter" but neglect to recognize the things that are there.
The story is only filler if all you cared about was the Collector, and by extension, the Reaper threat. ME2 did an amazing job filling in and fleshing out every important factions' background and politics. It did an amazing job setting up a "build alliances" story structure like the one ME3 looks like it will have. It gave us the Quarian indecision about War with the geth, it gave us the Heretics and the Faithful (for lack of a better term) geth, it gave us Tuchanka and the genophage cure, and a whole lot more.
No, the Collector/Reaper menace/threat was not its strongest point. No it didn't seem to progress that story arc very much. But it did progress several other, very important, story arcs.
As for RPG vs TPS, that all depends on what class you played. Virtually anything other than the Soldier is a very RPG experience. Fast paced sure, but when you level up Pull to Pull Field and use it on Husks it's totally and irrefutably different than it's base ability. When you level up singularity and warp you can demolish the battlefield. When you level up Biotic Charge its absolutely devastating.
By comparison if you level the Soldier up all the way all you really get is a generic TPS with some slightly nifty ammo powers and Adrenaline Rush.
I also find it funny that he then used this highly contentious discussion to bring the forum together over what he mistakenly perceived to be common ground.
That's just all kinds of fail OP.
For the record, I think ME2 was the better game. People often say unsupported things like "the story is filler" and "it was just a straight shooter" but neglect to recognize the things that are there.
The story is only filler if all you cared about was the Collector, and by extension, the Reaper threat. ME2 did an amazing job filling in and fleshing out every important factions' background and politics. It did an amazing job setting up a "build alliances" story structure like the one ME3 looks like it will have. It gave us the Quarian indecision about War with the geth, it gave us the Heretics and the Faithful (for lack of a better term) geth, it gave us Tuchanka and the genophage cure, and a whole lot more.
No, the Collector/Reaper menace/threat was not its strongest point. No it didn't seem to progress that story arc very much. But it did progress several other, very important, story arcs.
As for RPG vs TPS, that all depends on what class you played. Virtually anything other than the Soldier is a very RPG experience. Fast paced sure, but when you level up Pull to Pull Field and use it on Husks it's totally and irrefutably different than it's base ability. When you level up singularity and warp you can demolish the battlefield. When you level up Biotic Charge its absolutely devastating.
By comparison if you level the Soldier up all the way all you really get is a generic TPS with some slightly nifty ammo powers and Adrenaline Rush.
#163
Posté 23 février 2012 - 07:26
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AlanC9 wrote...
Jacen987 wrote...
AlanC9 wrote...
Jacen987 wrote...
Yes ME1 was truly better than ME2. Really, it boggles the mind, how so many disagree. Its like these people are not interested in playing RPGs...
Yes, because all RPG players ever agree with you about everything......
Not really.. I simply do not understand. Not trying to imply superiority of my person, in any way, shape or form....
OK. Shouldn't have snapped at you there. It's not like I really understand why you like ME1 better.
Well, i kinda just said why i liked it... It was/ felt like a much richer expirience.. flaws included..
ME2 just feels streamlined. Cant agree with "ME2 is leapes and bounds over ME1" statement....
I will however give the shooting mechanics their due credit.... But its hardly an acomplishment, in this shooter oversaturation.
#164
Posté 23 février 2012 - 07:28
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HTTPS 500 wrote...
Man, so many arguments on these forums. I wonder how the moderators put up with everybody with out going insane (I feel for yah, Chris Priestly).
That said I want to provide a little common ground. People disagree on multiplayer, homosexuality, the shooter mechanics, textures, diolauge, gameplay, customization, soundtrack, hell I could go on. But all that said I think we can agree that out of the ME1, MEG, ME2 and ME3, ME2 is and will be the worst, for several reasons.
To name a few:
1. Story was filler.
2. Character backstories where not connected to the main plot in anyway, Dragon Age 2 did a good job at this.
3. Soundtrack was not as good as the previous game.
4. Combat was improved, but not improved enough. Mass Effect 3 has pervected the combat system, though the clunky and sketch gameplay of Mass Effect 1 will always have a place in my heart.
No. It is your opinion.
#165
Posté 23 février 2012 - 07:28
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ME1 had better RPG elements, but ME2 had better combat and presentation.
#166
Posté 23 février 2012 - 07:30
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GuardianAngel470 wrote...
I find it funny that the OP has been here long enough to recognize some typical arguments but not long enough to know that the ME2><ME1 discussion is the most contested of all discussions on the entire forum.
I also find it funny that he then used this highly contentious discussion to bring the forum together over what he mistakenly perceived to be common ground.
That's just all kinds of fail OP.
For the record, I think ME2 was the better game. People often say unsupported things like "the story is filler" and "it was just a straight shooter" but neglect to recognize the things that are there.
The story is only filler if all you cared about was the Collector, and by extension, the Reaper threat. ME2 did an amazing job filling in and fleshing out every important factions' background and politics. It did an amazing job setting up a "build alliances" story structure like the one ME3 looks like it will have. It gave us the Quarian indecision about War with the geth, it gave us the Heretics and the Faithful (for lack of a better term) geth, it gave us Tuchanka and the genophage cure, and a whole lot more.
No, the Collector/Reaper menace/threat was not its strongest point. No it didn't seem to progress that story arc very much. But it did progress several other, very important, story arcs.
As for RPG vs TPS, that all depends on what class you played. Virtually anything other than the Soldier is a very RPG experience. Fast paced sure, but when you level up Pull to Pull Field and use it on Husks it's totally and irrefutably different than it's base ability. When you level up singularity and warp you can demolish the battlefield. When you level up Biotic Charge its absolutely devastating.
By comparison if you level the Soldier up all the way all you really get is a generic TPS with some slightly nifty ammo powers and Adrenaline Rush.
Curiously you dont mention world-design, customastion or bonus content and replayability.
#167
Posté 23 février 2012 - 07:32
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Upps did i say that...
Modifié par Jacen987, 23 février 2012 - 07:32 .
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Posté 23 février 2012 - 07:50
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I very much enjoyed Knights of the Old Republic, Mass Effect 1 was more like it than the sequel, so that's why I prefer it.
Oh, the inventory system, the mystery, the driving around crazy-ass planets inhabited by little Mickey Mouse like creatures hoping to find something meaningful around the next hill...
Oh, the inventory system, the mystery, the driving around crazy-ass planets inhabited by little Mickey Mouse like creatures hoping to find something meaningful around the next hill...
#169
Posté 02 mars 2012 - 06:46
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Jimez wrote...
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Honestly, how can you say it is the worst in the series. Story was great, ok i didn't like the whole "joining Cerberus" thing, but i i made do (basically, used Tali and Garrus as they are original Normandy crew). Music is great, combat is improved. The characters are a lot better.
One thing i disliked was the size of the Citidel. How can you restrict what was the central point in ME1 to a few floors, and no way of walking around. I liked that in the 1st game.
Well you don't know what your talking about!
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Posté 02 mars 2012 - 06:48
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Um... Hello?
*taps you on the forehead*
You've not seen ME3 yet!
*taps you on the forehead*
You've not seen ME3 yet!
#171
Posté 02 mars 2012 - 06:49
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Can we not just refrain from making moronic statements about the quality of ME3 and of the series when ME3 aint released yet?
#172
Posté 02 mars 2012 - 06:50
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AgitatedLemon wrote...
I can't.
I already think ME2 is better than ME1, so ME2 can't be the worst, at least, for me.
Pretty much this, ME2 certainly has problems, but I enjoy it a lot more than I enjoy the first one.
#174
Posté 02 mars 2012 - 06:56
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ME2 played better but lost alot of it's RPG roots
ME1 had the better story
Thats how I look at it
ME1 had the better story
Thats how I look at it
#175
Posté 02 mars 2012 - 06:59
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Yeah, maybe wait to actually play ME3 before making judgements or including it in any comparisons.
ME2 actually has some of my favorite, most engaging characters of any BioWare game. I think it remains to be seen how much ME2 characters' back stories (and plot elements) connect w/ the overall plot arc of the trilogy.
I liked the more hard RPG approach to skill advancement and overall customization of ME1 personally, but combat did turn out more fun and fluid IMO in ME2.
The more old school character building and customization elements and the end game of ME1 wind up the only things I'd give a decisive victory to over ME2.
ME2 actually has some of my favorite, most engaging characters of any BioWare game. I think it remains to be seen how much ME2 characters' back stories (and plot elements) connect w/ the overall plot arc of the trilogy.
I liked the more hard RPG approach to skill advancement and overall customization of ME1 personally, but combat did turn out more fun and fluid IMO in ME2.
The more old school character building and customization elements and the end game of ME1 wind up the only things I'd give a decisive victory to over ME2.
Modifié par SidNitzerglobin, 02 mars 2012 - 07:04 .
