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[jlb524]

a party with 3 rogues?  Is anyone going to try it?

I was thinking:

Me:  city elf rogue, ranger and dual wielding specialist.
Leliana:  Focus on her archery and rogue skills.  User her bardic song for party buffs.
Zevran:  another duel-wielder with assassin spec also.
Wynne:  heal us when we get our butt's kicked

Zevran and I would be the flashy rogue fighters that engage the enemy, while Leliana snipes them down and cheers us on. 

Leliana would do all the lock-picking and trap-making/finding.  Zev and I can focus on combat and stealth.

Any thoughts?

[Korgaah]

Whose is gonna tank? .. when an Ogre steps on yer pansy-arse rogues.. you'll need a metal encased juggernaut to save yer worthless hides!!! Last I recall.. rogues don't get taunt or threaten abilities.. so when Wynne gets her butt handed to her... well.. its always nice to know what your quick reload button is

[Lil-Vinny29]

You need at least a tank in your team, you can try this team but expect lot of troubles or Wynne will ran out of mana over healing everybody, Its really kill them before they kill you type of team.



My advice would be play the game first with a more balance team or just replace Zevran with Sten or Alistair

But in an RPG game, play how you want to !

[Arttis]

A tank is the most important role a group needs in these fantasy RPGs.

[jlb524]

Tank? We don't need a tank! We have cunning and good looks! Zevran will dance around and distract the Ogre, and I'll flank it and back-stab it. Leliana will wear it down with a barrage of arrows. If it gets too rough, we'll run and hide, set some traps. Leliana will sing us a nice song to bring our courage up again as Wynne heals our hides.

There is combat stealth also and feining death might help in a pinch.

Actually, this is not going to be my first party.  This will be a challenge run for another play-through.  My first party will only have one rogue.  I just think it would be a strategic challenge to get through the game with this party.

Modifié par jlb524, 02 novembre 2009 - 01:31 .

[bodines1]

i say do it. dont listen to all these naysayers

[TrollOgerElf]

im sure the ladies in light of not wanting to die will flash the ogre that should distract him enough for Zevran to climb on his back and stab him in the neck



probably good for at least 2 per ogre

[jlb524]

bodines1 wrote...

i say do it. dont listen to all these naysayers

I'm doing it on my second playthrough.  As soon as I get the rogues, it's on!

My first play through will be

Me:  spirit healer
Leliana:  rogue, archer
2 of those 'tanks' I need.

or

Me:  spirit healer
Leliana:  rogue, archer
Morrigan:  DPS mage
1 of those 'tanks' I need

[Arttis]

I do not see how you can make it past the early content of the game without a tank.

[jlb524]

Arttis wrote...

I do not see how you can make it past the early content of the game without a tank.

Unfortunately, I'll be forced to have a tank early on, until I get the rogues.  I think you get Zevran later than anyone else, but I'm not sure.  I'll probably have Alistair, Morrigan, Wynne in party until i get Leliana and then Zevran.

Until I can get all the rogues, we'll probably be at a decent level so it will be plausible. 

Granted, I will be reloading a lot, but hey!  I like rogues.

[Arttis]

Well its as plausible as my solo with a tank herbalist.

[jlb524]

Arttis wrote...

Well its as plausible as my solo with a tank herbalist.

And you thought I was suicidal?  

I'm sure a 'most extreme playthrough' thread will open up after the game is out for a while.  We should all share stories about our adventures as an all rogue, all warrior, or solo herbalist tank playthroughs.

[mrmoneda]

Arttis wrote...

I do not see how you can make it past the early content of the game without a tank.

I saw a 360 playthrough of the Dalish origin: Archer rogue and mage NPC. No tank needed.

[Wissenschaft]

jlb524 wrote...

bodines1 wrote...

i say do it. dont listen to all these naysayers

Me:  spirit healer
Leliana:  rogue, archer
Morrigan:  DPS mage
1 of those 'tanks' I need

The problem with this list is that you need another fighter/rogue to get behind enemies for flanking/backstab bonuses which can add up to a lot of damage.

Modifié par Wissenschaft, 02 novembre 2009 - 04:58 .

[Mjodr]

jlb524 wrote...

Arttis wrote...

I do not see how you can make it past the early content of the game without a tank.

Unfortunately, I'll be forced to have a tank early on, until I get the rogues.  I think you get Zevran later than anyone else, but I'm not sure.  I'll probably have Alistair, Morrigan, Wynne in party until i get Leliana and then Zevran.

Until I can get all the rogues, we'll probably be at a decent level so it will be plausible. 

Granted, I will be reloading a lot, but hey!  I like rogues.

Zevran is a random encounter. Oghran and Loghain are the ones I am pretty sure come last. I don't have the game yet, so I don't know if it is possible to get Oghran earlier, but Loghain doesn't come until after Landsmeet.

Modifié par Mjodr, 02 novembre 2009 - 05:03 .

[jlb524]

Wissenschaft wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

bodines1 wrote...

i say do it. dont listen to all these naysayers

Me:  spirit healer
Leliana:  rogue, archer
Morrigan:  DPS mage
1 of those 'tanks' I need

The problem with this list is that you need another fighter/rogue to get behind enemies for flanking/backstab bonuses which can add up to a lot of damage.

What about:  Morrigan spider/bear form?  Or, have the tank engage while Leliana backstabs/flanks?

I'll probably use my 2 tank version more than the 1 tank version.  Certain battles might be better won with a DPS mage instead of the other tank, though. 

[jlb524]

Mjodr wrote...

Zevran is a random encounter. Oghran and Loghain are the ones I am pretty sure come last. I don't have the game yet, so I don't know if it is possible to get Oghran earlier, but Loghain doesn't come until after Landsmeet.

Cool, so I can do most of the game with the 3 rogue party.  Awesome!

[Wissenschaft]

how late in the game is Landsmeet?

What about: Morrigan spider/bear form?

The problem is that you need Morrigan casting debuff spells to weaken powerful enemies so your rogues can actually stand a chance against them. Consider Zevran for the backstab + flanking bonus.

Any warrior will do for the tank but Alistair will be best at tanking (because of sword and shield).

Modifié par Wissenschaft, 02 novembre 2009 - 05:12 .

[bnolsen2]

Zev is a random encounter after completing your first post-Ostagar story related quest, so he can be picked up rather early on. Leliana is picked up as soon as you go to Lothering I believe, and Oghren whenever the story dictates that you should go to Orzammar

[Wissenschaft]

Awesome, first stop Lothering. Err, then I got to go get morrgan. Proablly end up using Wynne for a short time. Or should I get Morrgan first.....Decisions, decisions.

Modifié par Wissenschaft, 02 novembre 2009 - 05:14 .

[Mjodr]

Wissenschaft wrote...

how late in the game is Landsmeet?

Origin
Ostagar
Lothering
Broken Circle
Arl of Redcliffe
Urn of Sacred Ashes
Paragon of Her Kind
Nature of the Beast
The Landsmeet
The Final Onslaught

[Mjodr]

bnolsen2 wrote...

and Oghren whenever the story dictates that you should go to Orzammar

Orzammar is a sidequest location, so you may be able to get there fairly early.

I hope so, I want my Dwarf to be a Berserker at 7.

Modifié par Mjodr, 02 novembre 2009 - 05:19 .

[jlb524]

Wissenschaft wrote...

Awesome, first stop Lothering. Err, then I got to go get morrgan. Proablly end up using Wynne for a short time. Or should I get Morrgan first.....Decisions, decisions.

I thought you had to get Morrigan before Leliana and the others?  I want Leliana first (and, not just because she's a rogue )

[Wissenschaft]

How fast can I get Morrigan? (I assume shes in a side quest area)



Looks like I'll be using Wynne early game for a mage.

[Mjodr]

jlb524 wrote...

Wissenschaft wrote...

Awesome, first stop Lothering. Err, then I got to go get morrgan. Proablly end up using Wynne for a short time. Or should I get Morrgan first.....Decisions, decisions.

I thought you had to get Morrigan before Leliana and the others?  I want Leliana first (and, not just because she's a rogue )

You get Alistair and Morrigan before Lothering.