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High-res textures included in ME3 (can we get a dev to confirm this?)


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#51
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If this is true (as in the retail game includes textures larger than what is seen in the demo):

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If this is NOT true:

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GreenSoda wrote...

...but that's the thing: The texture was not there. That was the "bug". The author of the texmod fix extracted the high-res Garrus texture from ME2 and used texmod to piggyback it into ME1.

I'm just saying BW might not have lied with the whole GB-big patch thingie.

But anyhow. I'm glad that we actually get high-res textures for PC this time arround. Always bugged me a bit about ME1+2 on PC.



I've already given the reasons why this is not the case. I don't believe the official excuse for a second.

(Back to topic)

There has been no official word that we're getting this pack. I think Bioware has underestimated how far technology has moved and how people’s expectations have increased, even since ME2. They simply haven't planed for one.

Modifié par Sarevok Synder, 16 février 2012 - 09:07 .


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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 16 février 2012 - 09:30 .


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Jsxdf wrote...

"@likchan The final edition of the game
will have hi-res textures included in it, no additional pack will be
required to download."

so it wont be a seperate pack..and afaik
the game went gold before the demo was released so its already being
copied and shipped to stores? so either the demo textures were a
seperate low res just for the demo, or this is misleading
marketing



Or probably the demo was based on an older build. The newer build featured high-res textures.

Modifié par Cellander, 16 février 2012 - 09:07 .


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Jsxdf wrote...

"@likchan The final edition of the game will have hi-res textures included in it, no additional pack will be required to download."

so it wont be a seperate pack..and afaik the game went gold before the demo was released so its already being copied and shipped to stores? so either the demo textures were a seperate low res just for the demo, or this is misleading marketing

It is conceivable that they simply didn't include the textures to limit the size of the demo.

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FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

i'm wait for any patch to put in ME3 pc version more high quality texture, and put the texture in Directx11.

Expect hell to freeze over first.

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CerberusSoldier wrote...
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No one is whining? Not in this thread anyway. We are happy that it seems like there will be high-res textures for the PC version.

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 16 février 2012 - 09:31 .


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more game have two possibility for quality texture, one in Directx09 and one in Directx11, so this features its included in the game, or its put after in a patch, i'm different new about another title who was put the Directx11 after in patch.

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Sarevok Synder wrote...

GreenSoda wrote...

...but that's the thing: The texture was not there. That was the "bug". The author of the texmod fix extracted the high-res Garrus texture from ME2 and used texmod to piggyback it into ME1.

I'm just saying BW might not have lied with the whole GB-big patch thingie.

But anyhow. I'm glad that we actually get high-res textures for PC this time arround. Always bugged me a bit about ME1+2 on PC.



I've already given the reasons why this is not the case. I don't believe the official excuse for a second.

(Back to topic)

...except that you didn't. Not in this thread at least.

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FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

more game have two possibility for quality texture, one in Directx09 and one in Directx11, so this features its included in the game, or its put after in a patch, i'm different new about another title who was put the Directx11 after in patch.

The version of the engine they used doesn't support DX11.

Modifié par Atakuma, 16 février 2012 - 09:10 .


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Deus Ex Human Revolution use the Unreal Engine 3, and use the directx11

Mass Effect 3 have the same engine.

Modifié par FRANCESCO84Inn, 16 février 2012 - 09:12 .


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FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

Deus Ex Human Revolution use the Unreal Engine 3, and use the directx11

No it didn't. Human Revolution used a heavily modified version of the Tomb Raider: Underworld engine, from memory.

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 16 février 2012 - 09:32 .


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Sarevok Synder wrote...

GreenSoda wrote...

...but that's the thing: The texture was not there. That was the "bug". The author of the texmod fix extracted the high-res Garrus texture from ME2 and used texmod to piggyback it into ME1.

I'm just saying BW might not have lied with the whole GB-big patch thingie.

But anyhow. I'm glad that we actually get high-res textures for PC this time arround. Always bugged me a bit about ME1+2 on PC.



I've already given the reasons why this is not the case. I don't believe the official excuse for a second.

(Back to topic)

There has been no official word that we're getting this pack. I think Bioware has underestimated how far technology has moved and how people’s expectations have increased, even since ME2. They simply haven't planed for one.

Do you really think an entire team of professional game developers would underestimate how technology has improved?

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FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

Deus Ex Human Revolution use the Unreal Engine 3, and use the directx11

It was written to use it, what you are essentially asking is for them to re-write the game in order to impliment DX11, the assets themselves have to be edited to become DX11 aware.

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DJBare wrote...

FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

Deus Ex Human Revolution use the Unreal Engine 3, and use the directx11

It was written to use it, what you are essentially asking is for them to re-write the game in order to impliment DX11, the assets themselves have to be edited to become DX11 aware.


how do you know all this ?

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N00blet666 wrote...

Sarevok Synder wrote...

GreenSoda wrote...

...but that's the thing: The texture was not there. That was the "bug". The author of the texmod fix extracted the high-res Garrus texture from ME2 and used texmod to piggyback it into ME1.

I'm just saying BW might not have lied with the whole GB-big patch thingie.

But anyhow. I'm glad that we actually get high-res textures for PC this time arround. Always bugged me a bit about ME1+2 on PC.



I've already given the reasons why this is not the case. I don't believe the official excuse for a second.

(Back to topic)

There has been no official word that we're getting this pack. I think Bioware has underestimated how far technology has moved and how people’s expectations have increased, even since ME2. They simply haven't planed for one.

Do you really think an entire team of professional game developers would underestimate how technology has improved?


You've played DA2, yes?

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DJBare wrote...

FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

Deus Ex Human Revolution use the Unreal Engine 3, and use the directx11

It was written to use it, what you are essentially asking is for them to re-write the game in order to impliment DX11, the assets themselves have to be edited to become DX11 aware.


but game like L.A. Noire have come in Directx11 by a pathc!

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DX11 and high-resolution textures are not interdependent. You can put higher resolution textures into a DX9 renderer without too much effort. Of course, this means BioWare would have to forego just porting over their Xbox360 memory profiling code, which is where things went wrong with ME2 because they "ran out of time".

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I doubt there will be a high res texture pack unless they find some way to exclude it from MP. I know I wouldn't want someone lagging all over the place cause their rig can't handle textures. :P

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GreenSoda wrote...

Sarevok Synder wrote...

GreenSoda wrote...

This fix uses texmod -just saying. That's really not a road BW could have gone. Texmod switches textures "on the fly". It adds itself as a second layer to the running game and listens for it to call on the texture-file in question -when it does texmod injects the new file instead of the old.
That works fine if it's just one or two textures, but when you actually want to fix many things like clothing or so it really jaggs up the loadtimes and hogs cpu-power.

...that's also the reason why texmod is popular with "those" kind of mods, but is rarely used otherwise. All in all it's a very "hack-ish" approach to the issue and not something a company could release as a "fix" for their own game.


Look, it was a programming glitch, the texture was actually there. There is no way it would take a patch a couple of gigs in size to fix it. All the original texture put together didn't come to much more than that. I'm aware of the issues with texmod.

Now let's get back on topic.

...but that's the thing: The texture was not there. That was the "bug". The author of the texmod fix extracted the high-res Garrus texture from ME2 and used texmod to piggyback it into ME1.

The texture was dfinitely there and the issue was that Garrus always had his lowest level of detail texture. There is a simple config tweak that fixes this. You just change the minimum LOD so it's the same value as the maximum.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/131/index/7738642

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Balek-Vriege wrote...

I doubt there will be a high res texture pack unless they find some way to exclude it from MP. I know I wouldn't want someone lagging all over the place cause their rig can't handle textures. :P

That's their own problem, not bioware's. If they can't handle it then they should just turn down the textures.

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CerberusSoldier wrote...

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The [heck] are we whining about? We heard news of a high resolution textures in ME3 and are discussing the possibility of it being in the game. I haven't seen any whining.

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 16 février 2012 - 09:34 .


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Don't feed the troll.

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BW please confirm so I can continue on with my pre-order :D

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N00blet666 wrote...

Do you really think an entire team of professional game developers would underestimate how technology has improved?


Well it's either that or they don't care. Which is worse?