So I didn't pick this up the first time around, but now either VS, in addition to being a spectre, they have also been promoted to Major in the Alliance Marine Corps., yes?
Doesn't Major outrank Commander? So the Normandy is the VS' ship?
So why the hell do they take orders from Shep?
Question about the VS and ranks?
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Posté 17 février 2012 - 05:43
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Wrong forum buddy... this is gameplay forum only, take this to general discussion
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Posté 17 février 2012 - 05:48
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I was wondering if discussing the rank of the VS would constitute a spoiler or not.
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Posté 17 février 2012 - 05:50
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OH HEY, it's this thread again.
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Posté 17 février 2012 - 05:52
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Please, by all means, point me towards where this was already addressed.PrinceLionheart wrote...
OH HEY, it's this thread again.
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Posté 17 février 2012 - 06:39
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There's a difference between "addressed" and "discussed".
Has b-dubs commented on this discrepancy at all?
Has b-dubs commented on this discrepancy at all?
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Posté 17 février 2012 - 12:17
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Well actually, only Kaidan makes it to Major, Ash becomes Lt. Commander, so she doesn't outrank Shepard as far as I know. Also, the Normandy is under control of Anderson (seems that way from the demo at least). Plus, Shepard is the expert and the great hero, so rank really doesn't matter much in this.
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Posté 17 février 2012 - 02:26
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Major is below Commander, Lt Commander also isn't above Commander
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Posté 17 février 2012 - 03:26
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Dariansarr wrote...
Major is below Commander, Lt Commander also isn't above Commander
In navy terms, the officer ranks go (with equivalent marine ranks in parends): Ensign (2nd Lt), Lt. JG (Lt), Lt (Captain), Lt. Cmdr (Major), Cmdr (Lt Col), Captain (Col), then the flag ranks (there are various admiral ranks (commodore, rear admiral, vice admiral, full admiral), the highest being a full admiral) which are equivalent to generals.
This is a bit of a break in canon, it seems, since according to the codex, alliance ranks for both navy and marines are different than the current US structure, though the biggest difference seems to be in the NonCom ranks. Which also reveals another canon issue: Ashley. she's a Ops Chief in ME2. How is she jumped ALL the way to an O4 slot in that time, PLUS, why would she ever go commissioned? Her personality is that of "Don't call me ma'am, marine! I work for a living!"
I should also note that a discrepency from the beginning is that Shep is Alliance marines, not navy, and thus should be Colonel Shepard, not Commander Shepard (though I do like the ring of "Commander Shepard" alot more).
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Posté 17 février 2012 - 03:36
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Canadian navy and armed force millitary rank put Major and Lt. Commander at the same rank.
Modifié par Imperium Alpha, 17 février 2012 - 03:42 .
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Posté 17 février 2012 - 03:37
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SirBrass wrote...
I should also note that a discrepency from the beginning is that Shep is Alliance marines, not navy, and thus should be Colonel Shepard, not Commander Shepard (though I do like the ring of "Commander Shepard" alot more).
In ME Marines are the ground forces of the Navy, they share the same ranks with different names
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Posté 17 février 2012 - 03:41
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Imperium Alpha wrote...
Dariansarr wrote...
Major is below Commander, Lt Commander also isn't above Commander
False. Canadian navy and armed force millitary rank put Major and Lt. Commander at the same rank.
Nothing false i didn't say that Major is below Lt.Commander
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Posté 17 février 2012 - 03:42
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Dariansarr wrote...
Imperium Alpha wrote...
Dariansarr wrote...
Major is below Commander, Lt Commander also isn't above Commander
False. Canadian navy and armed force millitary rank put Major and Lt. Commander at the same rank.
Nothing false i didn't say that Major is below Lt.Commander
Yeah mistake i fix it 30 secs ago
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Posté 17 février 2012 - 07:17
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Vapaä wrote...
SirBrass wrote...
I should also note that a discrepency from the beginning is that Shep is Alliance marines, not navy, and thus should be Colonel Shepard, not Commander Shepard (though I do like the ring of "Commander Shepard" alot more).
In ME Marines are the ground forces of the Navy, they share the same ranks with different names
Then Kaiden should be Lt. Commander Alenko, not Major. Unless alliance has expanded their rank structure (will need a codex citation), which is likely since he was Staff Commander (equivalent to shep's rank, iirc) in ME2.
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Posté 17 février 2012 - 09:16
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SirBrass wrote...
Then Kaiden should be Lt. Commander Alenko, not Major. Unless alliance has expanded their rank structure (will need a codex citation), which is likely since he was Staff Commander (equivalent to shep's rank, iirc) in ME2.
Alliance ranks are not the same as US ranks
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Posté 17 février 2012 - 09:17
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Yup. Kaidan's superior to Shep and Shep and Ash are the same rank (Shep really does need a damn promotion though).
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Posté 17 février 2012 - 09:24
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SirBrass wrote...
Vapaä wrote...
SirBrass wrote...
I should also note that a discrepency from the beginning is that Shep is Alliance marines, not navy, and thus should be Colonel Shepard, not Commander Shepard (though I do like the ring of "Commander Shepard" alot more).
In ME Marines are the ground forces of the Navy, they share the same ranks with different names
Then Kaiden should be Lt. Commander Alenko, not Major. Unless alliance has expanded their rank structure (will need a codex citation), which is likely since he was Staff Commander (equivalent to shep's rank, iirc) in ME2.
Actually, Shepard's rank never went above Lt. Commander. It is common for Lt. Commanders to be addressed as Commander. (not sure why though)
