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[Takrandro]

(cracks knuckles) lets get started shall we?

as to 1. first, i suggest u go for elf mage, since it got a little better starting stats then human, and it comes in handy with interactions(everybody thinks your a lowly slave) as for the rest, Companions: i suggest Shale as tank(like u said) rogue i leave to u,depends waht u need from them really,if u need lockpicking(witch is always handy) go for Lilianna, or for pure melee dam, go Zevran, now for the last one, i Suggest Morrigan, since i myself find a 2nd caster specced like a CC (in witch she begins in) quite needed, since it allows my main mage to focus on damage spells. i do ofc switch my chars out as needed(not everything needs a rogue) but like to have 2 mages in my party regardless, as for lvling stats, what u say is the best way, but make sure u take some constitution points as well,(for all your characters) since u need health to power your spells when using blood magic,and it comes in handy anyway, i assume u unlocked it already, otherwise take Spirit healer as your first spec and later blood mage, both work good together when u are out of mana for healing spells

As for lvling spells, this is what i use atm. first all up to fireball in the fire tree, since its a VERY good spell, then the Crushing prison tree, its not just handy for an AW spec u know, since all 4 spells in that tree are usefull 1 or the other way.

Then get the glyph tree(or at least the first) since they come in quite handy in keeping a big group away from u. i u don't use a 2nd mage, take the whole ice tree as well, since CoC is the best CC spell in the game. and blizzard the best AoE, take the first heal spell, or more if needed, and some single target spells to help u with bosses, if u got points left, get at least the first hex spell as well, comes in handy to soften targets up for your Crushing prison/CoC



2. i don't know that much yet on rogues, but will give some comment on it later. but i do suggest Dualwield

[Takrandro]

Well, the spell combo's are just handy to have around, the shattering combo is one u will most common use i think, and its very handy when having a melee heavy party, just use a crit ability of one of your warriors and u got an instant kill(assuming the attack hits) u can even program it in the tactics. 2 other ones i use somethimes are the glyph combo(paralyse and repulsion overlap each other = aoe paralyse) witch works better then the mass paralyse,just make sure your party has good mental res, or u'll get hold also. the other one is to forcefield someone, and then do crushing prison on them(or the other way around) to create a massive chockwave that WILL knock everyone down(very powerful!!) exept the one who got the spells casted on him. its also great to use when one of your party get CP cast on him.
Spell combos are't essencial of the game, but they can help u deal with situations that have gone bad without doing it over again(and they are fun ofc!!)
1 last tip, no matter what spec or spells u choose, make sure u have at least 2 CC spells, since u get in eneugh situations witch u need to solve on your own, and without AW. your spells will be the only way to do that. did it bad the first time with my elf mage, so now on my new human mage, i'm trying to do things better, and so far it works great!

As for rogues, i'm going assasin and duelist on my rogue also, and i'm focusing on dualwield, but there are some great things i have read on this forum about rogue archers who use the stealth skill to devastating effect, more tactical ofc, but can be fun. as for companions, Shale ofc, and Sten is great on early on, but since he only get 1 spec, u better go for oghren(depends if u get him late or early in the game) and mages, well, i have always preferred Morrigan, since she starts whith good CC, and let's face it, u just need at least a little of that, but Wynn is good as long as u get her the frost tree i guess. since she can shatter ppl on her own if needed. just make sure u use eneugh potions, so get at least one of them to master herbalist, i also suggest u give poisonmaking to some of your warriors also, so they can use the flasks, very usefull early on since u will be missing Aoe effects.
As for origin, i played the Dalish origin myself on my rogue(its sucks btw) but since i'm not a dwarf fan i think i'll take those last.

PS the Bard spec is a great support class, so if u go archer take that one and Ranger(for the exstra melee u get with it)

Modifié par Takrandro, 24 novembre 2009 - 09:36 .

[Takrandro]

i almost forgot, there is also a mod out that u can find somewhere on this site that lets u respec Everything!! so if u wanted morrigan to be a SH instead of a useless shapeshifter, now's your chance. i use it myself for when things don't work out well, like with my afore-mentioned elf mage, so now i don't need to restart all over again to do it right its your choice, but it makes choices easyer, u can also unlock some specs with it. but where's the fun in that?

[Takrandro]

Well, first, about the rogue, u should indeed get him eneugh so he can use higher lvl weapons, i even have read about rogues using heavy armor succesfully(would look weird if u ask me) and for his weapons, just use whatever comes by, u'll find some good swords early in the game(depends witch of the 4 main quests u do after lothering ofc.) and more then eneugh daggers lying around to use, just make sure u get ones with sockets in it, makes a big difference(no matter the class)



As for your mage, u'll find more then eneugh mage stuff in the mage tower, so i can recommend going there first(make sure u got a rogue with u for the chests) also, if u have't got the Warden's keep DLC, i suggest u get it fast, since there u will find loads of nice caster gear, depending on how u deal with Avernus, u get a good robe or an awsome mage staff witch enhances ice spells,

and don't forget the Power of blood talents u can get there, the mage ones are simply wicked!

for the rest, just keep an eye out, u'll find eneugh gloves and rings/amulets everywhere, just use those that compliment your build.and if u don't have anything useful, just give your mage some light armor, barely any fatigue and might come in handy anyway, but thats only if u are out of options.

and when entering an area, always use the TAB key to highlight stuff, u'll miss alot if u don't use it.



Anyway, hope this helps a little, and feel free to ask for help anyrtime, i don't mind always a pleasure to help ppl with things like this(i'm a WoW player on hiatus, so i got the xp)



Best of luck

[Takrandro]

On the 1st question, yesm coup de grace is always working since its passive, but since dirty fighting is only a 1 sec stun or so u might just be able to get i stab at him. and yes its a crit, just read the talents.

2. i have't tried the talents myself(for about the same reasons) but in essence its just that, u lose threat so your enemies go away, and u can only stealth in combat on rank 4 i think. if u got problems of getting to much aggro, just program your tanks tactics to come to your aid whenever you are attacked or something.

3. it is a good talent, and since cunning is a main rogue stat, its always handy to get that one, in D&D, u got a similar talent that does that for dex, so they are the same.

4.u will already be doing crits to immobilized opponents thx to coup de grace, just save pinpoint strike for when your dirty fighting is on cd. since it gives u a short period when all hits are crits(like when casting death hex on a enemie, same effect)

5. pretty much ye, just read the talents without a rush, it should explain most of it, just read what i wrote at question 4 and u should be fine.



and remember, "passive" means a talent is always working without costing anything.

(just to avoid mistakes)



hope this helps!

[Holzdolph]

I just finished the game with my first char - a delish rogue, and I made a few mistakes with his spec, but not that bad:

don´t put too many points into strentgh, 22 is enough for nice armor - try to do the mages tower early (i dont know if the attribute bonus points there are always the same or if its random, i did them after I specced my rog to 22 str and ended with 26 now - so 4 points were wasted)



Talents:

Lethality is THE rogue skill, since you can focus on dex and cunning (and some const, will) - and if the tooltip is correct, it´s not restricted to daggers (altough with the high dex you should get a better dmg bonus than with swords/axes).

And use the best paralysis rune you can find, it really helps a lot !



If you are fine with daggers, dual wield-expert should be enough, for swords take the dual wield expert - though I´m not sure if there is a dmg-bonus for all weapons in the master talent.



Feign Death is a lot of fun, and with 4 points in stealth you can restealth pretty fast. I used it very often to sneak around and take out smaller groups on my own - just park the party close by and set a mage to heal



But now its time to start with my mage - altough with 2 mages instead of 2 rogues even nightmare will be like kindergarten

[Takrandro]

Lol Holz, seems like u had a good time

As for those points u can get in the fade, yes those are the same always, but thats not a bad thing, so get all u can get.

I personally like the 3rd dual-wield tree also a lot, cool moves and monumentum(or whathever) is a great mode to kill a group really fast!

As for your new mage, check my posts on this forum, together with those from Colma u should have a good idea what to use for what spec. have fun!!

[Takrandro]

Nice, i'll keept hat in mind when i make a warrior or so. and good luck with your new chars.
but the games i'm waiting for are Diablo 3 and some RTS games, not to mention some wicked PS3 titles, since i got 1 a few weeks ago and for beat em ups that console rocks!!
so for coming year i'll be busy eneugh, so many games! what to play!!!

Modifié par Takrandro, 29 novembre 2009 - 01:18 .

[Eido Lonseirei]

I haven't personally played a Blood Mage, but apparently if you want that as your first Spec., then you'd be better off raising Magic and Constitution, as you'll be using health over mana to fuel your spells. In a manner of 2 Magic/ 1 Const.



Depends on how you end up playing the character - if you resort to Blood Magic once you run out of Mana, then raising Willpower is necessary. On the other hand, if you constantly use Blood Magic, then there is no need to raise Willpower, but you'll need to stack up with potions to gain health back before you die in combat.

[Takrandro]

Blood mage is great to use fro when your mana is low, i use it on my AW, and it works great! i can stay in my modes while using some spells, also, blood wound really rocks! and i just got blood control, but have't tried it yet. as for stats, i suggest u go 2magic/1willpower for a while and once u get blood wound,(or earlier, depends how high the rest of your caster stats are) go const 2/magic1. should help alot,



As for Spirit healer, it works great with blood magic, just keep in mind that u barely can heal yourself as long as blood magic is active. i got Morrigan specced SP/BM, works great so far, also, just found out here on the forums that there's this online game called Dragon Age:journeys that lets u unlock 3 more items for DA:origins,

here's the link:http://www.dragonagejourneys.com/



have fun!!

[Takrandro]

Good to hear
If there's anything else i can help with, let me know
So far i hope that new content they planned comes out soon just to have something new, altrough i hope for an new campain early next year,since playing this game the same way does get boring after the 3rd try...

So go kick some ass!

[Takrandro]

Anyone got a good idea what's a good warrior or rogue build to combine with each other? since i'm still trying to figure out what works best for those classes.



And a big bump ofc.

[Takrandro]

Gratz with completing the game! i completed it myself on my AC/BM! was cool! (got her to lvl 22)

i'll go see what i do now, but got some other games to play and WoW patch 3.3 finally landed so i'll go kill the lich king first i think(been waiting for it for 5 years..)

and maybe when i'm done with that there will be some new stuff out for this game, will check the forums though



so in advance, Merry Christmas and happy new year!! go kick some butt(and hope for nice presents)

[Takrandro]

Big bump