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[Dark83]

I don't know what these people expect. They do realize that the origin of these Computer/Console games - the actual RPG systems - are all text? (D&D, GURPS, SR, etc.)

[Phaedra Sanguine]

A short attention span will do that.

[Ralsar]

I am a dialogue junkie and DA:O is my heaven.

[I HAS A FLAVOUR]

ENCHANTMENT!

[Riggazz15]

deathwing200 wrote...

You should try a game that's a bit more in-line with your mental development level. Like Halo.

RPG elitists are the bane of my existence- Just because someone doesnt want to spend their spare time diving into an RPG environment doesnt mean they are lesser people who dont have the brain power to process or the attention span to do so.



I work a high powered advertising brand strategy job with lots of stress that demands plenty of brain power, but when i get home id prefer to watch south park and laugh at cartoons farting then a documentary on the fall of the berlin wall or jump into my novel - does this mean i have less brain power than the alternative?


I think not

One could turn that entire arguement on its head and say that those who need immersion and intense mental stimulation in their gaming dont experience that in their real life and are therefore social misfits and probably work in Mcdonalds - Escapism is for people who need to escape?


Food for thought..

Modifié par Riggazz15, 24 novembre 2009 - 05:31 .

[Drake Sigar]

Memengwa wrote...

I don't think this some of the comments called for actually. The guy just doesn't like our kinds of games. My man doesn't either, and I would never imply that he's mental state lower than mine. So just drop it.

2nd. There ARE games that are called RPGs that don't have as much dialogs. Diablo, Hellgate London anyone? The quest givers just talk to you once and then you have a quest.

Wether these games can really be considered ROLE-playing games is discussion for other times, but the fact is that it's what they are called. And they can be enjoyable in their own ways.

The OP bought the wrong game for his taste. This is a simple, but sad truth. Probably the advertising is to be blamed. Some lessons are learned the hard way and this is one.

Indeed, clearly his definition of an RPG simply differs from mine. I fully expected this forum to be flooded by complaints thanks to the advertising department who gave many the wrong impression. Though my sympathy is somewhat limited considering how easy it is to research a video game before purchase, a tactic which has become a necessity in today's economic climate.

[Bibdy]

Because "Darkspawn over there. Beat pulp smash." isn't very immersive.

[mr.chicken]

The dialogue and story are some of the reasons this game is great. It is unfortunate that you purchased a game that is not to your tastes, but your criticism of long winded dialogue in a story-driven RPG is foolish.

[Bibdy]

Riggazz15 wrote...

deathwing200 wrote...

You should try a game that's a bit more in-line with your mental development level. Like Halo.

RPG elitists are the bane of my existence- Just because someone doesnt want to spend their spare time diving into an RPG environment doesnt mean they are lesser people who dont have the brain power to process or the attention span to do so.



I work a high powered advertising brand strategy job with lots of stress that demands plenty of brain power, but when i get home id prefer to watch south park and laugh at cartoons farting then a documentary on the fall of the berlin wall or jump into my novel - does this mean i have less brain power than the alternative?


I think not

One could turn that entire arguement on its head and say that those who need immersion and intense mental stimulation in their gaming dont experience that in their real life and are therefore social misfits and probably work in Mcdonalds - Escapism is for people who need to escape?


Food for thought..

Then go buy a hack and slash Diablo-esque adventure. Plenty of those about. Titan's Quest is a good one.

You literally bought the wrong type of RPG if you don't enjoy the dialogue. I think one of the devs said it best that the game is more of a 'choose your own path' novel. If you bought it expecting an action-adventure dungeon romp murder and lootfest, you picked the wrong game.

[JoonTehUnagi]

its called "narcolepsy" happens all the time, dont worry mate. they have medicine for it

[Zenon]

Riggazz15 wrote...

deathwing200 wrote...

You should try a game that's a bit more in-line with your mental development level. Like Halo.

RPG elitists are the bane of my existence- Just because someone doesnt want to spend their spare time diving into an RPG environment doesnt mean they are lesser people who dont have the brain power to process or the attention span to do so.



I work a high powered advertising brand strategy job with lots of stress that demands plenty of brain power, but when i get home id prefer to watch south park and laugh at cartoons farting then a documentary on the fall of the berlin wall or jump into my novel - does this mean i have less brain power than the alternative?


I think not

One could turn that entire arguement on its head and say that those who need immersion and intense mental stimulation in their gaming dont experience that in their real life and are therefore social misfits and probably work in Mcdonalds - Escapism is for people who need to escape?


Food for thought..

Okay, perhaps you let us know what kind of games you really like and why you bought DA:O in the first place. Did you watch a commercial, or did you at least read one review about it? Is this your first RPG?

I actually have a job with high demands of self-initiative and brain-power. Still, I enjoy to read books, which challenge my imagination and play games giving me food for thought about choices and decisions.

So, you mentioned, that you don't like such games and would prefer something less demanding to relax your mind. Shouldn't you have known DA:O must have been the wrong choice for you in the first place, if you informed yourself about it before purchase? Complaining afterwards and flaming others certainly won't help you to relax more, would it?

[entwood2]

Why jump all over the guy? Maybe future games can have a pre-set option to follow a good or bad line and some text/dialogue can be skipped...net more fans that way, appeal to more people...more sales..

Modifié par entwood2, 24 novembre 2009 - 05:56 .

[FalloutBoy]

Turn on subtitles and use the ESC key to speed up dialog.

[Few87]

Ah it seems that you accidently got confused, what you were looking for is an xbox and a copy of halo. Get that and you will be happy.

[Tripedius]

three things on this matter:

- it is a story driven rpg, so it is a good thing not a bad thing

- there is something like too much of a good thing. Some animated dialogue is just too much. Like people who don't actually have anything to say or the repeated dialogue of mercants.

- it should be easier skipable. I talked to this women outside of the chantry in denerim and she started this whole story, which was kind of interesting and could be helpfull for the plot (it wasnt though) but you need to go through the whole dialogue three before getting out. I was just scouting at that moment (having just arrived) and getting ready to quit.

I can understand this for vital plot characters or moments, but I really needed and get out but still be able to talk to her later (without her being disgrunted about it) option then.



So, it might be a bit too much on some parts, but in general: Gief more!

[Killian Kalthorne]

Yes...



After playing the game 40 hours straight.

[Eurypterid]

entwood2 wrote...

Why jump all over the guy? Maybe future games can have a pre-set option to follow a good or bad line and some text/dialogue can be skipped...net more fans that way, appeal to more people...more sales..

Why do that when you can skip with the ESC key anyway? This is an RPG (heavy on the RP), so as others have mentioned, it's likely the OP just made a poor choice in games if he's looking for more action and less RP.

It's unfortunate he finds it boring, but the dialog and choices you make is mainly what the game's all about.

[Setz69]

Tripedius wrote...

- it should be easier skipable. I talked to this women outside of the chantry in denerim and she started this whole story, which was kind of interesting and could be helpfull for the plot (it wasnt though) but you need to go through the whole dialogue three before getting out. I was just scouting at that moment (having just arrived) and getting ready to quit.
I can understand this for vital plot characters or moments, but I really needed and get out but still be able to talk to her later (without her being disgrunted about it) option then.

I think this brings in a bit of realism. If you were to walk up to me Irl, and start talking to me, than went, wait wait. I actually didn't want to have a conversation with you, just wanted to see if you had anything cool to offer, so uhhh, im gonna go.

I'd be a little disgruntaled aswell

[kansadoom]

You bought the wrong game nuff said

[Pinnatus]

This game would be pretty boring without the dialog, voice acting and all the backstory stuff. It'd be engaging, but pretty standard fare. The combination of the gameplay with the story and evolving attitudes of the characters is what makes it fun for me.



Also, given your statements in the original post, I'm guessing you never played any other Bioware RPG offerings? In general I've found the basic gameplay "template", for lack of a better term, to be very similar to KOTOR and Mass Effect, which means a lot of story and not a lot of twitch.

[Ickabod27]

I look forward to some good dialogue

[thisisme8]

vhatever wrote...

MErchant dialogue annoys the hell out of me. Of course I want to look at your wares, what else are you good for?

That's awesome.  Happens to me every time.

"Hello, it's such a nice day in Ferelden and this elf is just...."

"Yeah, yeah, yeah, let me see your stuff."

[Aether99]

RPG elitists are the bane of my existence- Just because someone doesnt want to spend their spare time diving into an RPG environment doesnt mean they are lesser people who dont have the brain power to process or the attention span to do so.

Then this game isnt for you.  If you dont want to spend your spare time diving into an rpg environment...then play something else.

I work a high powered advertising brand strategy job with lots of stress that demands plenty of brain power, but when i get home id prefer to watch south park and laugh at cartoons farting then a documentary on the fall of the berlin wall or jump into my novel - does this mean i have less brain power than the alternative?

it means you have different tastes, and it sounds like a rpg isnt one of them...so again, the games not fo ryou

I think not

One could turn that entire arguement on its head and say that those who need immersion and intense mental stimulation in their gaming dont experience that in their real life and are therefore social misfits and probably work in Mcdonalds - Escapism is for people who need to escape?

Oblivion is immersion, not DAO.  DAO is more like a novel.  Ive never seen a 3rd person party based game that touted immersion.

While the person you quoted was out of line, so are you.  Its quite obvious you dont like games like this.  Im a little suprised you even bought it.  I LIKE the conversations and find them to be a refreshing breather from the constant combat.  Which even I admit after an hour its all largely the same.

The dialogue and story is the selling point in this game, if you dont take to it, then id strongly suggest returning it.