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[schnydz]

This is a pretty interesting tid-bit. If you want to purchase all DLC and marketing items for ME3 it will cost you $870. Here’s the link

Here's a little excerpt: 
"If you add up all of the toys, artbooks, deluxe/pre-order editions, and everything else that nets you Mass Effect 3 in-game content, how much would the full price of entry be? Well, if you buy everything there is to buy (including pre-paying for unlocks), you will spend around the neighborhood of $870. Keep in mind that a lot of this is based on Razor accessories, which power up your "Collector Assault Rifle" to maximum power in multiplayer." - link

Here's their list...(incase you don't feel like opening the link above)

Collector's Edition (needed to obtain all content):

$80 - N7 Collector's Edition

Pre-order bonuses:

AT-12 Raider - Origin pre-order bonus
Chakram Launcher - Play the Kingdoms of Alamur demo
M-55 Argus - Pre-order bonus for select retailers
N7 Weapons pack - N7 Edition bonus
N7 Hoodie - N7 Edition bonus
N7 Warfare Gear - Pre-order bonus for select retailers
Reckoner Knight Armor - Play the Kingdoms of Alamur demo
Robotic Dog - N7 Edition bonus
Squad Outfit pack - N7 Edition bonus

Auxiliary purchases:

Unannounced price for the iOS game Mass Effect Infiltrator, which can affect the main game.

$10 day one "From Dust" DLC

$44.99 for the Liara figurine - which oddly enough now comes with unconfirmed DLC

$24.99 for The Art of Mass Effect Universe - Collector Assault Rifle DLC/Powerup

$80 for four Mass Effect 3 toys - "Slightly randomized" multiplayer unlock DLC

$59.99 for the Mass Effect 3 controller - Collector Assault Rifle unlock DLC/Powerup

$209.99 for the Chimera 5.1 Headset - Collector Assault Rifle unlock DLC/Powerup

$34.99 for the Mousepad - Collector Assault Rifle unlock DLC/Powerup

$79.99 for the Messenger Bag - Collector Assault Rifle unlock DLC/Powerup

$24.99 for the iPhone case - Collector Assault Rifle unlock DLC/Powerup

$79.99 for the Mouse - Collector Assault Rifle unlock DLC/Powerup

$139.99 for the Keyboard - Collector Assault Rifle unlock DLC/Powerup



*edit: there, less $$, happy? Still relevant.

Modifié par schnydz, 17 février 2012 - 09:12 .

[Stanley Woo]

Tom Lehrer wrote...

What ever happened to the days you would buy a game and that was it?

Technology, the world, even the way we play games and communicate, have changed significantly since the days where a box on a videogame store shelf was the only way to get games.

I don't know about you, but I would never have had as much fun playing Rock Band if there were no DLC.and without Rock Band, I never would have discovered console gaming!

Without DLC and microtransactions, I certainly wouldn't have gone back to D&D Online or Lord of the Rings Online for a while if they hadn't enticed me with a free to play mode (where I also purchased things to enhance my game). Many of my DVD and Blu-Ray choices are based, in part, on what special features have been added. I also enjoy purchasing single or a few songs rather than an entire album from iTunes if I don't care for the entire album.

Sure some extra levels is nice but when did the gaming industry start charging several times the actual price of the game for extra content?

That's a bit misleading. If you total up the price of the products that provide extra content, yes, it'll get expensive, but the content is actually free with the purchase of a product. Also, as there can be many pieces of DLC for a game (such as, for example, for Fallout 3), it is entirely possible for the total price of all the content to be more than the cost of the original game.

And of course, all of the extra content is completely optional. If you feel it is of value, then by all means, purchase it. If you like these other products that happen to include bonus content, then go for it! If, on the other hand, you don't feel these things are of value, don't buy it. it's entirely up to you.

[Stanley Woo]

Dionkey wrote...
Stan, in all honesty, do you just agree with everything BioWare and EA does because it's your job, or because you have an undying loyalty to them? 

Hey, Dionkey, "in all honesty" it's not my job to agree with every BioWare and EA do, nor is my loyalty to my employer and parent company undying. I just have a greater insight into the business and game development, and I have a very healthy respect for and skepticism of marketing messages and my own feelings towards consumerism.

I have learned that at some point, the money I would have to spend on a given thing is not worth the value I would derive from that thing. For example, I personally would not purchase an action figure just to get bonus content for free. I would, however, buy an action figure for a reasonable price (because I happen to like action figures) and feel good about getting bonus content for free. I would not hold it against anyone else who thinks differently than me or anyone who places a different value on such content. Which is why I've been very free in encouraging people who don't see this as being worth the cost, to not purchase the products they're bound to. Because the dithering between "you should be ashamed of yourself for making this so expensive for me!" and "but I waaaaaaaant it!" is unproductive and, dare I say it, irresponsible. Take ownership of your own values and purchasing decisions, because all people do when they complain about the price but still demonstrate just how much they want the content is to show marketing that their plan works.

[Stanley Woo]

Filament wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Filament wrote...
I understand the whole DLC separate budget yadda yadda, but I have to wonder if they couldn't use that excuse to make six separate day one DLCs and make the final product cost over $100 for the super special true fan edition.

Let's say they did. What of it?

I think they would then be decried as taking the nickel and diming scheme to the absurd extreme no one thought it would ever go.

And yet, people already say that of us and/or EA and/or the gaming industry. People said that about horse armour, yet people bought it in droves. People said that about map packs in FPS's, yet those are extremely popular. People said that about hats in TF2, yet people couldn't get enough of them. If it works and people are happy with the stuff they do purchase, no amount of arguing against the practice or the price is going to sound very convincing, is it?

[Stanley Woo]

Dionkey wrote...
The issue is not about having the choice to purchase these figures or not, the fundamental problem stems from the fact that ME3 isn't even out yet, and they already produced DLC that is not included in the game. DLC should be content that is either free at launch or priced later down the road. Weapons, characters, and other goodies like that should not be used as a marketing ploy to sucker in loyal fans. I just don't see why you can't recognize this and express some real concern with how BioWare has been transformed by EA.

But the "concern with how BioWAre has been transformed by EA" is your worry, based on your lack of understanding or disagreement with how business works. It is also based on a strict subjective view of what DLC is. Why should I express concern over something that only the customer can decide, which is whether or not to buy bonus content or a product that comes bundled with bonus content. I'm not buying it, but that's a decision I make for myself. I cannot tell you what to do.

Unlike televisions, cars, and computers, these extra "parts" cost no money to produce and are entirely digital. They are simply making extra money off pieces that should have been part of the game original, at no extra cost to themselves. The fans would greatly appreciate it, but they don't seem to care, not since they merged with EA, that is.

Incorrect. All "parts" cost more than no money to produce. They do not magically spring forth from the ether and magically appear in game. Someone has to construct the models, someone has to ensure the authentication process works, someone has to test the items. And there you go with the tired old "DLC is cut from the game to sell later," which I've debunked many times.

Of course the fans would appreciate something for nothing, that's a common desire for customers. The difference here is that you are refusing to listen to reason, refusing to listen to someone who is telling you how it works, and refusing to back down from your accusations of wrongdoing, all while blinding yourself to the fact that all you want is something for free. Which is fine, as long as you are aware of what you're doing. Failing that time and again, you're going to find people like me to be increasingly unsympathetic to your misguided and stubborn attempts to get a point across.

[Stanley Woo]

It isn't a question of blame. Commerce is a system. Without either the producer or the buyer, the system breaks down.

Gatt9 says
ME3, Day 1 DLC, DLC attached to things there's no valid reason to attach it to just to try and get people to buy things they wouldn't normally buy.

Welcome to the world of advertising, circa ancient Egypt. And Gatt9, your hysterical posts don't encourage discussion with you. I've told you this before.

[Stanley Woo]

Rivercurse wrote...

Nice job in here Mr Woo.

Thank you. I doubt it will convince anyone but I am tired of people comaplaining based on misinformation and rumour. Better to complain about stuff that's actually happening.

[Stanley Woo]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

I just want to thank you. It's not often that I have the opportunity to say it publicly so, again thanks for putting up with us!

It's my pleasure, really. If we didn't have this online community composed of fans of all stripes, my job would get very dull indeed. I continue to be a Moderator because I truly love our fans. A very small percentage requires a different kind of love, perhaps, but it doesn't change the fact that I like participating in discussions and arguments. Just try to be sincere and genuine, please, and above all, be excellent to each other.

[Stanley Woo]

LenaMarie wrote...

If you really love us crazy fans, any chance we'll see you online in ME3 Multiplayer?  That'd be one way to get in the trenches with the fans:P

Mayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyybe.