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[D.Kain]

Powers have been turned upside down! Not that I am complaining, there is still a lot of interesting tactics, but I was just like   .

So I tried out the asari adept finally, and it has Stasis, warp and throw. And I'm like, ok let's see how it works:

1) Stasis is for taking strong enemies out of battle, they shouldn't take damage while in stasis, or should take little damage right? WRONG! Stasis multiplies all damage to targets and causes dedly explosions with use of warp and throw, better with warp of course. So stasis in now for killing things, not to postpone things. Now that get's me to:

2) You'd think soldiers or Infiltrators would be the best snipers right? WRONG! The best sniper is the Adept! An asari adept to be precise, since the best thing for a sniper is static targets, and Stasis freezes ANY enemies with health/shields/barriers, and multiplies damage to them, which makes for carefully placed headshot rampage.

3) And I'm like hey, I have throw, I'd use that to knock enemies to the ground when they get close right? WRONG! Stasis is better, because it works not only on health but on shields also, unlike throw, and a headshot kills the target, when throw just knocks the target, and you have to try and aim the body that is flying around, which is not very comfortable.

4) Ok, then throw is useless, we don't need it right? WRONG! Stasis doesn't work on armored targets like Atlas and turrets. So you use warp+throw on it! 

5) But warp and throw are bad for damaging shields, warp is only effective against armor right? WRONG! Warp+Throw destroys shields very effectively! Warp also doesn't detonate itself, so warp+throw also deals massive damage to armor!


So let me get this straight: The best sniper is adept, stasis is for killing people, warp is used against shielded targets, and throw is used exclusively on armored targets? YES! 



It's still fun to play though. 

[xIxDarkWolfxIx]

Well that is just odd. That reverses all that is known about powers from ME1/2. My mind is blown. =P

[D.Kain]

xIxDarkWolfxIx wrote...

Well that is just odd. That reverses all that is known about powers from ME1/2. My mind is blown. =P

Me too, that is why I was so surprise. 

Now we need overload that damages armor. 

[PnXMarcin1PL]

you'll get a grip of that
i'm taking on gold tomorrow

[SirBrass]

I'm glad they made stasis a damage multiplier. It was essentially useless before when it wouldn't allow damage.

[sp0ck 06]

Stasis needs a nerf, seriously. Its so ridiculously powerful.


I love it though.

[Lunatic-LMD]

Which is why, I'm now trying out the asari adept

[Tazzmission]

sp0ck 06 wrote...

Stasis needs a nerf, seriously. Its so ridiculously powerful.


I love it though.

hey stasis is the best to use when it comes tio nemessises and phantoms let me tell you

[sp0ck 06]

Combining an asari adept with a vanguard is good fun while you're at it. Just endless biotic detonations, since Charge and Nova detonates off stasis or warp.

[neubourn]

Protip: ANY sniper can pick off enemies in Stasis bubbles, not just Adepts. I use an Asari Adept as my main, and im always the sniper's best friend.

Also...using a Sniper on an Asari Adept is a waste, since SRs weigh alot, and that increases your cooldown times, which is detrimental to a Biotic who relies on powers. Use just a Heavy Pistol...Phalanx or Carnifex works great.

[Adhin]

Another fun thing stasis does is, if you detonate it? The AoE push causes a stasis effect on everything as well. Though everything that gets hit with the detonation effect can't be harmed. Also the Bubble effect for rank 6 is amaaaazing. Lets you basically lock own an area for awhile.

It's definitely one of the best biotic abilities.

[Cataya]

I don't agree with 2. I'm a salarian infiltrator and the talent "energy drain" stuns your targets for a good few seconds (or knock them back for a little while if your skill is low or if the target is too strong)
edit: energy drain also removes any barrier from any targets, apart from atlas.

Modifié par Cataya, 17 février 2012 - 11:28 .

[JerZey CJ]

Stasis does damage because you're doing a combo(warp combo/throw combo) and detonating it. Any two biotic attacks that intersect with each other(stasis+Charge/Stasis+Nova/Stasis+Warp/Stasis+Throw/Pull+Throw/Pull+Warp/Pull+Charge/Pull+Nova/Singularity+Throw/Singularity+Warp/Singularity+Charge/Singularity+Nova) will cause a Detonation and do a massive amount of damage and some powers even have upgrades that increase their combo/detonation damage.

[D.Kain]

neubourn wrote...

Protip: ANY sniper can pick off enemies in Stasis bubbles, not just Adepts. I use an Asari Adept as my main, and im always the sniper's best friend.

Also...using a Sniper on an Asari Adept is a waste, since SRs weigh alot, and that increases your cooldown times, which is detrimental to a Biotic who relies on powers. Use just a Heavy Pistol...Phalanx or Carnifex works great.

My asari power regen with a single sniper riffle is 156%. Enough. =)

[D.Kain]

Cataya wrote...

I don't agree with 2. I'm a salarian infiltrator and the talent "energy drain" stuns your targets for a good few seconds (or knock them back for a little while if your skill is low or if the target is too strong)
edit: energy drain also removes any barrier from any targets, apart from atlas.

But is that better than stasis?

[Bachi1230]

I get easily 50+ headshots a game and 100+ kills a game as a Salarain infiltrator with the Mantis. Adepts cannot compete to the +headshot/stealth damage bonus we get from sniper rifles. And with no delay from shots which is cannon since the material fflying out of the guns is going close to the speed of light just point and click at the heads and pop pop pop drop drop drop.

[D.Kain]

Tazzmission wrote...

sp0ck 06 wrote...

Stasis needs a nerf, seriously. Its so ridiculously powerful.


I love it though.

hey stasis is the best to use when it comes tio nemessises and phantoms let me tell you

Yes indeed: "Hold there criminal scum!" Proceeds to make three carefully placed headshots.

[D.Kain]

Bachi1230 wrote...

I get easily 50+ headshots a game and 100+ kills a game as a Salarain infiltrator with the Mantis. Adepts cannot compete to the +headshot/stealth damage bonus we get from sniper rifles. And with no delay from shots which is cannon since the material fflying out of the guns is going close to the speed of light just point and click at the heads and pop pop pop drop drop drop.

Why can't adepts compete with that? You get the damage bonus yes, but we get the damage bonus from target being in stasis, and that is about  +150% mind you? I mean you could shoot someone I put in stasis stronger, but I am the one with stasis if we are alone.

Modifié par D.Kain, 17 février 2012 - 11:38 .

[Barhador]

Bachi1230 wrote...

I get easily 50+ headshots a game and 100+ kills a game as a Salarain infiltrator with the Mantis. Adepts cannot compete to the +headshot/stealth damage bonus we get from sniper rifles. And with no delay from shots which is cannon since the material fflying out of the guns is going close to the speed of light just point and click at the heads and pop pop pop drop drop drop.

Where do you get the idea that the material is close to the speed of light? I'm sure they are moving at relativistic speed levels, but nowhere near the speed of light.

[CommanderShawn]

www.youtube.com/watch

[didymos1120]

They're not moving at relativistic speeds. You have any idea what even those tiny little rounds would do if they were moving at appreciable fractions of the speed of light?

[D.Kain]

CommanderShawn wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

Aaand adept sniper is better. 

1) That salarian misses heads sometimes and shoots at the body, because enemy is moving. I never miss head, it is literally 100/100 ratio, EVERY shot goes into enemies head, because they freeze.

2) Infiltratir carefully waits for the enemy to take cover, to place that delicious head shot, waits for the enemy to stop moving. I make the enemy stop whenever I please, in the middle of the battle, with stasis.

[neubourn]

IM guessing you are playing on bronze. On Silver/gold, your skills are better suited spamming biotics then sitting their sniping people you put in a bubble. (time spent in scope, is time you could be warping/throwing).

[D.Kain]

neubourn wrote...

IM guessing you are playing on bronze. On Silver/gold, your skills are better suited spamming biotics then sitting their sniping people you put in a bubble. (time spent in scope, is time you could be warping/throwing).

I played a lot of Quake 3 arena in my life, and I have good aim. Usually take about 1.5 sec to place a head shot on a target that stands still.

[S.ilver]

D.Kain wrote...

neubourn wrote...

Protip: ANY sniper can pick off enemies in Stasis bubbles, not just Adepts. I use an Asari Adept as my main, and im always the sniper's best friend.

Also...using a Sniper on an Asari Adept is a waste, since SRs weigh alot, and that increases your cooldown times, which is detrimental to a Biotic who relies on powers. Use just a Heavy Pistol...Phalanx or Carnifex works great.

My asari power regen with a single sniper riffle is 156%. Enough. =)

I'd have to disagree here. On gold when you have literally hordes of enemies and sometimes as many as 6 Phantoms rushing you at once, you want stasis  to have as fast a cooldown as possible. Also, carrying a heavy pistol instead of a sniper rifle makes you more effective at close range (while you are still very effective at a distance with headshots, made easy by stasis).

Also, single shot sniper rifles take longer to reload than the cooldown for stasis... I would rather put more enemies in stasis, and take a few kills here and there with my Phalanx, while giving my team an easier time.