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that can be true only for paragon shepard

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Takamori The Templar

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Should be a option for every kind of Sheppard, be paragon, renegade or neutral

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You can't go on and on about how much choice your series has and then unavoidably kill the main character. Also, KILL MAIN CHARACTER AT END OF TRILOGY is something somebody says for every damn 3rd game. Enough already.

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The hero dying at the end of it all. How original.

Uh no

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I fully expect a deus ex machina at the end. At the moment I don't see any other way. I don't think Shepard needs to journey to Sovengarde to defeat Harbinger... ooops ... wrong game.... No, I don't think it is necessary for Shepard to die in the end unless there is the "epic fail" achievement. And Harvey (aka Scorpius)? Harvey was a kick in that series -- I have the complete series on DVD.

I think there are going to be about three or four different endings:

* one where Shepard does make the ultimate sacrifice
* one where every crew member lives
* one where the whole thing goes to hell and everyone dies
* and one where (s)he has to make the choice similar to the end of the SM to destroy the deus ex machina or just neutralize it which would destroy the reapers yet leave the technology intact, which leads to a cliff hanger for another game, and another character to clean up the mess left behind. I'm hoping this choice doesn't happen.

This story line has to end in this game. Shepard's story has to end. They've got to set it up so that either Shepard dies or Shepard gets retired. I think after this Shepard would be ready to soak the feet in the sand somewhere. Better to do that than have to retcon something for any ME4 with another character.

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My Shepard will not perish because I am playing her.

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My Shepard wants to be with Kaiden after this is all over. I do not want her to die, in fact I hated when Serah died in FF 13 2. Why would I want Shepard to die?

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uuugh...No thank you, enough with the Emo BS "everything has to be tragic crap, isn't it enough that billions of people are going to die in the trilogy finale but you want the main character to die too? Sure let him/her die if you screw up your playthrough enough like in Me2 but he/she, sure as the pope is catholic - don't have to die...

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Plinkett wrote...

I may be a pathetic old man who murders korean families for fun, but I feel that the only way logical way for Mass Effect 3 to end is with Shepard dying a sad, yet heroic, death. From playing the demo I can see that Shepard is scared as he actually has no plan to defeat the reapers. "We fight or we die?" That's no plan! From the previous games Shepard has been a great leader and knows how to be tactical when entering a dangerous battle, but here he has no idea what to do. He has become a shallow husk of himself, and knows that all they can do is try to "survive" as long as possible. Which is why Shepard should die in the end along with the rest of all the other races, because it is only logical ending.

Agreed?


I want to Assume Direct Control with Harbinger though!

http://desmond.image....png&res=medium


Why can't I romance a Reaper? I can find my way into the pants of any other human or alien! Why not a giant Robotic Death God? Peace through love, not war man!
:wub:

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VeR0se wrote...

My Shepard wants to be with Kaiden after this is all over. I do not want her to die, in fact I hated when Serah died in FF 13 2. Why would I want Shepard to die?

Thanks for the spoiler.

hahah jaykay I hate FFXIII

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True Zarken wrote...

No he doesn't. If that's what you want your Shepard do that's fine I will support you, but others would like a happy ending for their Shepard and LI. I want my Shepard to ride off into the sunset on the Normandy with his/her LI, kind of like the last scene in 'Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade' because it would hit home this is the last story of Shepard.

Unless of course George Lucas decides to make a Mass Effect game.

Don't even bring up george lucas with plinkett. Ever. 

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Takamori The Templar wrote...

Should be a option for every kind of Sheppard, be paragon, renegade or neutral

I think you can play a sacrifice as either, one being noble and the other being aggressive, charging in shouting "bring it, chumps"

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seeing this thread made my brain flashback to the days of perusing Bungie.net's forums and seeing the topic "Master Chief needs to die at the end"

Weird moment.

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No.

THere should be no chance of Shepard dying unless you ram the Normandy up Harbinger's arse (And since Harbinger doesn't have one....)

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I want Shepard to retire to Aite with Ashley.

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I remember reading the forums in amazement after dragon age origins. It hadn't occured to me not to sacrifice myself. They'd set up a solid sacrifice premise, something that had been a recurring theme, that had what I saw as loopholes, but I had seen it as my fight and my role. I'd started out as this reluctant **** and grown in The Warden.

But in thread after thread people were seeking a super-happy-ending, where you go through a story about struggle and sacrifice and then at the end everyone gets ice cream and cake and rides a pony to their magic castle.

I get that it was a relatively expressive RPG that let you make choices, but I saw that as flying in the face of inescapable narrative themes, and that a noble death was simply better ending. I feel the same is true here. In almost any way you choose to play your Shepard, he or she is a warrior, and after the Reapers will be one without a war (and no, mopping up random pirates ain't a fitting end). The climax of such an epic fight for such a character needs to be either transformation or sacrifice. Otherwise it's not really a plot, not a narrative, it's just some things that happened. And I can't think of a transformation that works as well as buying it, but maybe that's simply a failure of my imagination.

Modifié par Ziggeh, 18 février 2012 - 02:56 .


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one of my shepards will

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Plinkett wrote...

I may be a pathetic old man who murders korean families for fun, but I feel that the only way logical way for Mass Effect 3 to end is with Shepard dying a sad, yet heroic, death. From playing the demo I can see that Shepard is scared as he actually has no plan to defeat the reapers. "We fight or we die?" That's no plan! From the previous games Shepard has been a great leader and knows how to be tactical when entering a dangerous battle, but here he has no idea what to do. He has become a shallow husk of himself, and knows that all they can do is try to "survive" as long as possible. Which is why Shepard should die in the end along with the rest of all the other races, because it is only logical ending.

Agreed?


Scared? You ever heard what Casey said many months ago that ME3 is Shepards personal story and the immense hard breaking/tireing desicions hes made in the past games comes to a full impact in 3, and hes scared is not true. Shepard is starting to show emotion and feel that this last final fight will have many sacrifices that bears on him and will start to doubt his/or her will to know if he/or she really can save the Galaxy and LIs to. And that is what Casey also said Shepard would feel alot more then in any of the previous games in ME3.

Hes not scared at all, he is showing emotion, because in the earth demo he is starting to feel there is no hope left to save Earth and end this War, hence his expression when the normandy is about to leave and she/or he looks down on the Innocent people/kid get obliterated by the reaper.

It is simply Shepard witnessing that not everyone of Humans/Species will survive againts the reapers, and that is bearing on him from the start Intro with the ME3 logo popping up afterwards.

Modifié par Vez04, 18 février 2012 - 03:23 .


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If it is one option then it has my support. I am against forced PC death which IMO makes the player feel quite hollow after investing so many hours and it is a cliche to boot. Some people like it and I don't.

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Doctalen wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

Shepard needs to put on Hawaiian swim shorts, grab a mojito, and go to the beach at the end.

Scorpius wants to come 

*nerd rage*

That's Harvey!

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You can choose that to be your ending, but I want a happy ending where I can have it all.

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No. **** no. No no no NO no no.

If dying is an option fine. You go ahead and kill off your shep. But if I get railroaded into dieing pointlessly in the end, like in Fallout 3, I will be furious. Burn some effigies and create voodoo dolls, kind of furious.

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Taleroth wrote...

Doctalen wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

Shepard needs to put on Hawaiian swim shorts, grab a mojito, and go to the beach at the end.

Scorpius wants to come 

*nerd rage*

That's Harvey!

I'm only 7 episodes into season 2. I apolagize 

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Ziggeh wrote...

I remember reading the forums in amazement after dragon age origins. It hadn't occured to me not to sacrifice myself. They'd set up a solid sacrifice premise, something that had been a recurring theme, that had what I saw as loopholes, but I had seen it as my fight and my role. I'd started out as this reluctant **** and grown in The Warden.

But in thread after thread people were seeking a super-happy-ending, where you go through a story about struggle and sacrifice and then at the end everyone gets ice cream and cake and rides a pony to their magic castle.

I get that it was a relatively expressive RPG that let you make choices, but I saw that as flying in the face of inescapable narrative themes, and that a noble death was simply better ending. I feel the same is true here. In almost any way you choose to play your Shepard, he or she is a warrior, and after the Reapers will be one without a war (and no, mopping up random pirates ain't a fitting end). The climax of such an epic fight for such a character needs to be either transformation or sacrifice. Otherwise it's not really a plot, not a narrative, it's just some things that happened. And I can't think of a transformation that works as well as buying it, but maybe that's simply a failure of my imagination.


Ah yes poets painting the soldier, what a crock of...

A fitting end for a soldier is to get to see his blood sweat and sacrifices pay off. And you won't experience anything if you're dead.

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Nizzemancer wrote...
Ah yes poets painting the soldier, what a crock of...

A fitting end for a soldier is to get to see his blood sweat and sacrifices pay off. And you won't experience anything if you're dead.

In real life, yes, in fiction? The poets paint it for a reason.