Shepard needs to die at the end
#51
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Posté 18 février 2012 - 12:28
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#52
Posté 18 février 2012 - 12:30
#53
Posté 18 février 2012 - 12:37
#54
Posté 18 février 2012 - 12:42
Uh no
#55
Posté 18 février 2012 - 01:02
I think there are going to be about three or four different endings:
* one where Shepard does make the ultimate sacrifice
* one where every crew member lives
* one where the whole thing goes to hell and everyone dies
* and one where (s)he has to make the choice similar to the end of the SM to destroy the deus ex machina or just neutralize it which would destroy the reapers yet leave the technology intact, which leads to a cliff hanger for another game, and another character to clean up the mess left behind. I'm hoping this choice doesn't happen.
This story line has to end in this game. Shepard's story has to end. They've got to set it up so that either Shepard dies or Shepard gets retired. I think after this Shepard would be ready to soak the feet in the sand somewhere. Better to do that than have to retcon something for any ME4 with another character.
#56
Posté 18 février 2012 - 01:04
#57
Posté 18 février 2012 - 01:07
#58
Posté 18 février 2012 - 01:48
#59
Posté 18 février 2012 - 02:13
Plinkett wrote...
I may be a pathetic old man who murders korean families for fun, but I feel that the only way logical way for Mass Effect 3 to end is with Shepard dying a sad, yet heroic, death. From playing the demo I can see that Shepard is scared as he actually has no plan to defeat the reapers. "We fight or we die?" That's no plan! From the previous games Shepard has been a great leader and knows how to be tactical when entering a dangerous battle, but here he has no idea what to do. He has become a shallow husk of himself, and knows that all they can do is try to "survive" as long as possible. Which is why Shepard should die in the end along with the rest of all the other races, because it is only logical ending.
Agreed?
I want to Assume Direct Control with Harbinger though!
http://desmond.image....png&res=medium
Why can't I romance a Reaper? I can find my way into the pants of any other human or alien! Why not a giant Robotic Death God? Peace through love, not war man!
#60
Posté 18 février 2012 - 02:15
Thanks for the spoiler.VeR0se wrote...
My Shepard wants to be with Kaiden after this is all over. I do not want her to die, in fact I hated when Serah died in FF 13 2. Why would I want Shepard to die?
#61
Posté 18 février 2012 - 02:15
Don't even bring up george lucas with plinkett. Ever.True Zarken wrote...
No he doesn't. If that's what you want your Shepard do that's fine I will support you, but others would like a happy ending for their Shepard and LI. I want my Shepard to ride off into the sunset on the Normandy with his/her LI, kind of like the last scene in 'Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade' because it would hit home this is the last story of Shepard.
Unless of course George Lucas decides to make a Mass Effect game.
#62
Posté 18 février 2012 - 02:17
I think you can play a sacrifice as either, one being noble and the other being aggressive, charging in shouting "bring it, chumps"Takamori The Templar wrote...
Should be a option for every kind of Sheppard, be paragon, renegade or neutral
#63
Posté 18 février 2012 - 02:22
Weird moment.
#64
Posté 18 février 2012 - 02:35
THere should be no chance of Shepard dying unless you ram the Normandy up Harbinger's arse (And since Harbinger doesn't have one....)
#65
Posté 18 février 2012 - 02:44
#66
Posté 18 février 2012 - 02:55
But in thread after thread people were seeking a super-happy-ending, where you go through a story about struggle and sacrifice and then at the end everyone gets ice cream and cake and rides a pony to their magic castle.
I get that it was a relatively expressive RPG that let you make choices, but I saw that as flying in the face of inescapable narrative themes, and that a noble death was simply better ending. I feel the same is true here. In almost any way you choose to play your Shepard, he or she is a warrior, and after the Reapers will be one without a war (and no, mopping up random pirates ain't a fitting end). The climax of such an epic fight for such a character needs to be either transformation or sacrifice. Otherwise it's not really a plot, not a narrative, it's just some things that happened. And I can't think of a transformation that works as well as buying it, but maybe that's simply a failure of my imagination.
Modifié par Ziggeh, 18 février 2012 - 02:56 .
#67
Posté 18 février 2012 - 03:02
#68
Posté 18 février 2012 - 03:12
Plinkett wrote...
I may be a pathetic old man who murders korean families for fun, but I feel that the only way logical way for Mass Effect 3 to end is with Shepard dying a sad, yet heroic, death. From playing the demo I can see that Shepard is scared as he actually has no plan to defeat the reapers. "We fight or we die?" That's no plan! From the previous games Shepard has been a great leader and knows how to be tactical when entering a dangerous battle, but here he has no idea what to do. He has become a shallow husk of himself, and knows that all they can do is try to "survive" as long as possible. Which is why Shepard should die in the end along with the rest of all the other races, because it is only logical ending.
Agreed?
Scared? You ever heard what Casey said many months ago that ME3 is Shepards personal story and the immense hard breaking/tireing desicions hes made in the past games comes to a full impact in 3, and hes scared is not true. Shepard is starting to show emotion and feel that this last final fight will have many sacrifices that bears on him and will start to doubt his/or her will to know if he/or she really can save the Galaxy and LIs to. And that is what Casey also said Shepard would feel alot more then in any of the previous games in ME3.
Hes not scared at all, he is showing emotion, because in the earth demo he is starting to feel there is no hope left to save Earth and end this War, hence his expression when the normandy is about to leave and she/or he looks down on the Innocent people/kid get obliterated by the reaper.
It is simply Shepard witnessing that not everyone of Humans/Species will survive againts the reapers, and that is bearing on him from the start Intro with the ME3 logo popping up afterwards.
Modifié par Vez04, 18 février 2012 - 03:23 .
#69
Posté 18 février 2012 - 03:28
#70
Posté 18 février 2012 - 03:41
*nerd rage*Doctalen wrote...
Scorpius wants to comeTaleroth wrote...
Shepard needs to put on Hawaiian swim shorts, grab a mojito, and go to the beach at the end.
That's Harvey!
#71
Posté 18 février 2012 - 03:42
#72
Posté 18 février 2012 - 03:50
If dying is an option fine. You go ahead and kill off your shep. But if I get railroaded into dieing pointlessly in the end, like in Fallout 3, I will be furious. Burn some effigies and create voodoo dolls, kind of furious.
#73
Posté 18 février 2012 - 03:52
I'm only 7 episodes into season 2. I apolagizeTaleroth wrote...
*nerd rage*Doctalen wrote...
Scorpius wants to comeTaleroth wrote...
Shepard needs to put on Hawaiian swim shorts, grab a mojito, and go to the beach at the end.
That's Harvey!
#74
Posté 18 février 2012 - 03:54
Ziggeh wrote...
I remember reading the forums in amazement after dragon age origins. It hadn't occured to me not to sacrifice myself. They'd set up a solid sacrifice premise, something that had been a recurring theme, that had what I saw as loopholes, but I had seen it as my fight and my role. I'd started out as this reluctant **** and grown in The Warden.
But in thread after thread people were seeking a super-happy-ending, where you go through a story about struggle and sacrifice and then at the end everyone gets ice cream and cake and rides a pony to their magic castle.
I get that it was a relatively expressive RPG that let you make choices, but I saw that as flying in the face of inescapable narrative themes, and that a noble death was simply better ending. I feel the same is true here. In almost any way you choose to play your Shepard, he or she is a warrior, and after the Reapers will be one without a war (and no, mopping up random pirates ain't a fitting end). The climax of such an epic fight for such a character needs to be either transformation or sacrifice. Otherwise it's not really a plot, not a narrative, it's just some things that happened. And I can't think of a transformation that works as well as buying it, but maybe that's simply a failure of my imagination.
Ah yes poets painting the soldier, what a crock of...
A fitting end for a soldier is to get to see his blood sweat and sacrifices pay off. And you won't experience anything if you're dead.
#75
Posté 18 février 2012 - 04:00
In real life, yes, in fiction? The poets paint it for a reason.Nizzemancer wrote...
Ah yes poets painting the soldier, what a crock of...
A fitting end for a soldier is to get to see his blood sweat and sacrifices pay off. And you won't experience anything if you're dead.





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