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#101
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I don't think Shepard should have a scripted death. Whether he lives or dies should be determined by the players choices and actions throughout the game. That being said I think the ideal ending as far as the fate of the galaxy goes, should involve deaths on Shepard's team, and possibly Shepard as well.

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Heavy01 wrote...

The ending should be every single sentient living thing dying along with the reapers, sort of a "cleanse" ending, where the universe is restarted opening the way for new civilizations to arise without the threat of the reapers. A sort of "Adam and Eve" ending, something like evangelion.

Knowing bioware however, we will most likely get a "human germs kill reapers! and everyone lived happy forever" ending.



You mean like with some kind of Halo ring type of superweapon.  Maybe a Prothean device that stops the reapers but kills almost everything?

Hmmm... that actually would be a pretty cool ending.  Very unusual and poetic.  Still prefer to have choices, but I'd prefer this or something else that is original like this, over the heroic sacrifice.


Of course it won't happen, for the same reason we may get a forced sacrifice, because Bioware wants to keep playing in the Mass Effect sandbox.

Modifié par Oldbones2, 18 février 2012 - 05:50 .


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I'd like to see the Reapers get destroyed in a supernova or a hypernova.

Besides the coolness factor of Shepard triggering an implosion with the force of 10 octillion or more of the most powerful hydrogen bombs ever created, it wouldn't be a Deus Ex Machina. If Bioware went that route, the solution was foreshadowed in ME2 with dark energy destabilizing Haestrum's sun. The trick of course would be in Shepard luring most of the Reapers into a battlespace of his choosing near a star of the right size.

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It IS the only logical idea.

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If Shepard does not die, then Bioware must be thinking "**** logic" and just have Shepard find a machine that will kill all reapers, amirite?

Actually, to be honest, the demo showed me Bioware is turning retarded. The reapers are meant to be thought as these intellectual beings throughout the trilogy but then when it comes to the big battle they let Shepard, the man who's fate it is to save the universe, fly off into space but immediately shoot down two ships full of random civilians and a child.

Logic, where the **** are you?

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But I guess Deus Ex Machina is all Bioware can think of...

Meh.

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no he does not. That is all.

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will probably be something like a choice between shep and kaidan/ashley dying XP You know bioware.

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crimzontearz

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know what Plinkett? Read the spoilers from the leak, start crying about it rant on then swear off Bioware games. That is what other people did

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The "Fallout 3" ending: why was I able to have Fawkes go into the chamber then? "Ah, that good choice. I am immune to radiation. You stay safe."

Okay back to ME3.... look at the situation. Do you see anything other than a DEM that can stop this cycle? I don't. I see different versions of one, but no other option. Other than that, what makes the best ending for a book?

* hero dies.
* hero lives but part of the team dies.
* hero lives but LI dies
* everyone lives but all home worlds destroyed.
* everyone dies but the enemy defeated
* everyone dies and the enemy wins

So does anyone see anything other than a DEM possible at the end?

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Bluff the Reapers into thinking Shepard has a super weapon to defeat them or has found some massive weakness. Wait for majority of reapers to enter system. Suicide detonate massive weapon.

Examples: blowing up a relay (maybe the citadel), using massive mass effect field generators on a neutron star to trigger a hyper nova, using same generators on a black hole to reduce gravity and remove event horizon triggering neutron decay and energy output to kill anything(also works on neutron stars) Degenerate matter minus pressure equals you go blind and die before signal reaches brain.

star + nova = white dwarf, white dwarf + super nova = neutron star, neutron star + hyper nova = black hole + gamma ray burst

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theres multiple endings, if you want Shepard to die, replay ME2 and kill your Shepard

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On the contrary, I don't think Shepard needs to die; I think he needs to have the OPTION of dying, ya geddit? Multiple endings, yo.

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I have never completed a playthrough of Mass Effect (barring the forced murder of Ashley) so unless they force her death, it wont ever happen for me.

I even hacked my DA:O game so that i could accept Loghain's surrender so that he may redeem himself by sacrificing himself to kill the Archdemon. It was part of the script for the game that in order to kill the Archdemon, a Gray Warden must die - totally unnecessary in my opinion, so Loghain was the only way i could get a reasonable ending.

No. As far as im concerned, the hero never dies. Ever.

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Dying is cliche. Furthermore, billions can die.. I refuse to ****ing die, I REFUSE. END. NO MORE. I did not just give this galaxy the best possible odds so I can get killed.

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Any self sacrifice by Shepard at this point is completely meaningless... After what Bioware's done with the beginning of ME2, anyone can come back.

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I feel like their should be an option for Shepard to sacrifice themselves. So that people who want to can. Personally, if Shep dies no matter what you do? I'm going to be seriously pissed off.

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mornegroth wrote...

Any self sacrifice by Shepard at this point is completely meaningless... After what Bioware's done with the beginning of ME2, anyone can come back.

That is a problem, but not an insurmountable one. She just needs to leave absolutely no trace.

Modifié par Ziggeh, 19 février 2012 - 12:05 .


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MouseNo4 wrote...

It was part of the script for the game that in order to kill the Archdemon, a Gray Warden must die - totally unnecessary in my opinion

It's not like it's out of the blue. Every sub plot involves making an unpalatable choice.

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Shepard discovers that the Protheans put the knowledge how to build wormhole weapons in his brain with that beacon back in ME1 and, uh... nevermind.

Anyway, I've said it before and I'll say it again - I really hope there's at least the possibility that Shepard goes out in a blaze of glory, saving the galaxy, but universally reviled because nobody understands what he has done.

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Ziggeh wrote...

MouseNo4 wrote...

It was part of the script for the game that in order to kill the Archdemon, a Gray Warden must die - totally unnecessary in my opinion

It's not like it's out of the blue. Every sub plot involves making an unpalatable choice.


Oh and a Gray Warden only gets 20 years to live. And you can never leave the Gray Wardens. And the whole purpose of the Gray Wardens is to sacrifice themselves to the Archdemon so everyone else does not have to. 

Yep, that is totally out of the blue, considering your not given that info until half way through the game. Its the old 'save the girl or save the world, not both' BS that a lot of storytellers use to give the audience the illusion of choice. 

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MouseNo4 wrote...
Oh and a Gray Warden only gets 20 years to live. And you can never leave the Gray Wardens. And the whole purpose of the Gray Wardens is to sacrifice themselves to the Archdemon so everyone else does not have to. 

Yep, that is totally out of the blue, considering your not given that info until half way through the game.

You weren't expecting a difficult decision at the end of the game? It hadn't established that was what all the threads were leading to?

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Its the old 'save the girl or save the world, not both' BS that a lot
of storytellers use to give the audience the illusion of choice.

You're talking about tension. Without tension stories are just words.

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"If we lose Shepard humanity might well follow"

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husky husk wrote...

"If we lose Shepard humanity might well follow"

And that's a problem? :whistle:

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I'd love an ending in which Shepard dies a heroic death. It would certainly be the one I'd choose.
I just can't really imagine Shepard having a life after the war since he'd be a legendary hero and he'd probably kill himself because of the paparazzi or something.

I'd want an intergalactic Shepard Day on the day of Shepard's death and they should make a few statues of Shepard while they're at it. Right next to the Krogan on the Presidium.