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Phantoms are way too overpowered.


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#126
D.Kain

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bucyrus5000 wrote...

For human Vanguards the Guardian is overpowered, but Phatoms are easy to kill. It's different for all sorts of different class/races.


Try armor piercing rounds.

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HolyAvenger

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On silver or gold I think sheer numbers of Phantom spawns on the last few waves dictate the necessity of an asari Adept with stasis bubble.

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HolyAvenger wrote...

On silver or gold I think sheer numbers of Phantom spawns on the last few waves dictate the necessity of an asari Adept with stasis bubble.


Indeed, and not a sheer amount, but exclusively phantoms and atlas, well last waves of gold that is.

Modifié par D.Kain, 19 février 2012 - 07:17 .


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Stasis, overload, warp, reave, shotguns, combat drone, any type of grendade, etc. The only class that's helpless against them is the infiltrator in which case, you cloak and then line up a headshot while your team deals with her.

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Haha really? I'm sticking to silver at the moment, got wiped a few times on low level gold.

Multiple asari adepts for the win?

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My Nova wrecks Phantoms. If they are around me, cloaked, when I nova, they go flying.

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HolyAvenger wrote...

Haha really? I'm sticking to silver at the moment, got wiped a few times on low level gold.

Multiple asari adepts for the win?


I was the only asari adept. We went through gold with 3 people, because the fourth one lagged forever and didn't disconnect. We had Adept/Infiltrator/Engineer. I stasised infantry, infiltrator made headshots, then I and engeener warped/overloaded atlases, infiltrator was also the best reviver, he was fast and with his cloak, he ran past everyone and revived us. 

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Phantoms are powered just fine. If you want to guarantee success, don't take them on solo. Or play Vanguard, class seems to do well against them.

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no they not, 1shot from widow on silver, havent tried gold yet.

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D.Kain wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

Haha really? I'm sticking to silver at the moment, got wiped a few times on low level gold.

Multiple asari adepts for the win?


I was the only asari adept. We went through gold with 3 people, because the fourth one lagged forever and didn't disconnect. We had Adept/Infiltrator/Engineer. I stasised infantry, infiltrator made headshots, then I and engeener warped/overloaded atlases, infiltrator was also the best reviver, he was fast and with his cloak, he ran past everyone and revived us. 


Nice. Yeah I would definitely want a gold team to have those three classes (for exactly the reasons you mentioned) and then a 4th...soldier for DPS, asari adept for more Phantom CC maybe. Mics and communication a must no?

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xrudix wrote...

no they not, 1shot from widow on silver, havent tried gold yet.



Won't work on Gold, you will have to deal with 2-3 phantoms at once, oh an 2 atlas. 

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HolyAvenger wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

Haha really? I'm sticking to silver at the moment, got wiped a few times on low level gold.

Multiple asari adepts for the win?


I was the only asari adept. We went through gold with 3 people, because the fourth one lagged forever and didn't disconnect. We had Adept/Infiltrator/Engineer. I stasised infantry, infiltrator made headshots, then I and engeener warped/overloaded atlases, infiltrator was also the best reviver, he was fast and with his cloak, he ran past everyone and revived us. 


Nice. Yeah I would definitely want a gold team to have those three classes (for exactly the reasons you mentioned) and then a 4th...soldier for DPS, asari adept for more Phantom CC maybe. Mics and communication a must no?


I'd say vanguard would be nice to detonate my stasis. Maybe another asari adept yes. Gold without atleast one asari adept and without atleast one infiltrator though, is a no go. Don't know about soldier.

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Stasis.

Shoot in face with Phalanx Pistol.

Warp.

Dead Phantom.

???

PROFIT!

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FoxShadowblade wrote...

Stasis.

Shoot in face with Phalanx Pistol.

Warp.

Dead Phantom.

???

PROFIT!


No, use the carnifex, you won't have time to shoot her in the face so many times on gold. Also, if you use warp you trash the cooldown that you need for second stasis because 2 more phantoms are running at you. 

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HolyAvenger

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Oh yeah I don't have a Carnifex yet either. Damn you random number god, damn you!

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D.Kain wrote...

FoxShadowblade wrote...

Stasis.

Shoot in face with Phalanx Pistol.

Warp.

Dead Phantom.

???

PROFIT!


No, use the carnifex, you won't have time to shoot her in the face so many times on gold. Also, if you use warp you trash the cooldown that you need for second stasis because 2 more phantoms are running at you. 


No Carnifex, and even with using the warp I can take down the other two phantoms without any help.

It's what an Asari Adept is made for, if you can't get a warp off for a quick biotic explosion, you aren't doing it right.

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I actually love Phantoms but this MP demo is going to make me hate fighting Cerberus forces when the main game finally comes out lol

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I think they're just the harder enemy but they're not 'overpowered'. Just be tactical.

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Also if your having a hard time handling Cerberus forces I hate to see you when we can fight the Reaper forces. I actually cant wait until ME3 comes out, me and my friends plan to play with forces and maps set to random so we never know what to expect

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FoxShadowblade wrote...

No Carnifex, and even with using the warp I can take down the other two phantoms without any help.

It's what an Asari Adept is made for, if you can't get a warp off for a quick biotic explosion, you aren't doing it right.


No you can't, you will find yourself in a position in which you have to use the second stasis faster than then first one stops working, because if you don't you will die from the second phantom. They literally run in waves of 2-3 at once. If you make a biotic explosion, you trash the cooldown, don't use second stasis, and the second phantom kills you. 
How can I not be right if I completed the game?

Modifié par D.Kain, 19 février 2012 - 07:50 .


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FoxShadowblade wrote...

Stasis.

Shoot in face with Phalanx Pistol.

Warp.

Dead Phantom.

???

PROFIT!


This one understands.  Asari adepts the anti phantom.:wizard:

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I agree that the phantom's are too powerful on bronze which is the easiest level of the MP which is equated to casual setting on SP. Seriously they are super powerful and hard to kill without help from team mates. The Atlus armor mech is also way too powerful on MP as well as SP for the easiest level. Extremely hard to take out even as a team.

Problem with the Phantom with Asari Adepts is hitting the enemy before it moves. I've got the asari adept and the people you try to hit with a warp or a stasis don't stay in one place and the auto-tracking feature with adept powers is not working properly. Half the time you miss your target AFTER you launch the biotic skill.

Modifié par Heather Cline, 19 février 2012 - 01:29 .


#148
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D.Kain wrote...

xrudix wrote...

no they not, 1shot from widow on silver, havent tried gold yet.



Won't work on Gold, you will have to deal with 2-3 phantoms at once, oh an 2 atlas. 

ok, two shots on gold. a few minutes ago cleared gold with 2 infiltrators, sentinel and engineer.

#149
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Phantoms aren't that bad, you just have to teamwork or just keep running away from them. MAYBE they could be nerfed slightly on bronze mode though...

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I just want to play as one. Here's hoping Bioware decides to add some new classes as DLC somewhere down the line.