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[Dragoonlordz]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

My issue is with auto dialogue.

ME1 > Had some auto dialogue but not very heavy handed approach and almost always was only just prior to dialogue choices which followed as part of the same conversations. Its use of auto response was minimal and not very often.

ME2 > Every interaction you have choices before speaks to them to set tone of reply and context even if not complete content explained in the choice.

ME3 > Extreme use of auto dialogue where forced canon generic responses imprinted upon your Shepard spent last two titles shaping and developing a persona. The choices no longer apply as you are not given a choice for each interaction anymore, the dialogue is out of character dependent on your persona created and it removes control and destroys immersion.

Now granted I only have the demo to rely on for this but I think we all realise by now the heavy use of dialogue being forced replies prior to given choices and sometimes with no choices given at all.

 

Which is why chosse your own adventures usually don't work well as methoded of telling character driven narrative because you'll run right into this problem and some is going to pissed that their Shepard is not acting the way they want him or her  too.

It's the scale of use that is a problem for me. In ME1 and ME2, it was minimal and preference was highly tilited towards the players choices but in ME3 the scale as it were has been extremely tilted in the other direction if the demo is indicative of the rest of the game.

[Ziggeh]

Flagta wrote...

That's the problem. "...OR die." Implicates kinda that no one would get harmed if they fight which is kinda untrue. It sounds like the choice between doom or an action that makes you invincible.

That's incredibly literal of you.

She's saying "get of your asses and do some fightin'" and not "Well, here are our options:"

Modifié par Ziggeh, 18 février 2012 - 05:05 .

[implodinggoat]

TK Dude wrote...

ME1 and ME2 had some cheesy dialog as well. I expect the same for ME3.

True.  Both games had their moments of cheese and yet as a whole they were both great.   Although it is somewhat of a shame to see ME3 start off on a cheesy note since both ME1 and ME2 had solid dialogue throughout their opening acts.

In fact in all three games the dialogue seems to get really corny whenever Shepard is trying to make an inspirational speech.

The speech to inspire the crew when you're first put in charge of the Normandy in ME1 was pretty corny.  The speech to inspire your squad before the suicide mission in ME2 is pretty corny.   And this speech at the start of ME3 to inspire a room full of military commanders who shouldn't be looking to a subordinate officer for inspiration in the first place is particularly corny.

PS: In the case of ME1 and ME2 the paragon Insipirational speech options tended to be cornier.  Not sure if this is true in ME3 as well,  I only tried out the Paragon dialogue and it was indeed corny.

[nitefyre410]

Ziggeh wrote...

Flagta wrote...

That's the problem. "...OR die." Implicates kinda that no one would get harmed if they fight which is kinda untrue. It sounds like the choice between doom or an action that makes you invincible.

That's incredibly literal of you.

She's saying "get of your asses and do some fightin'" and not "Well, here our our options:"

 

exactly 

[EpicBoot2daFace]

DJBare wrote...

Court room?, see it's begun, when you cut scenes people become disorientated.

Inevitable.

[vader da slayer]

"If I die down here I'll kill him" - Wrex from ME1 on Therum.

"I've had enough of this station to last a lifetime" - Shep ME2 on Lazarus Station
"Or two in your case" - Miranda's response

ME has always had cheesy dialogue, don't know why its such a big deal now.

[Adanu]

Ok, seriously now.

You people are just picking apart individual words with no meaning whatsoever now just to get a kick.

Getting ridiculous.

[Son of a Witch]

I don't really see too much of a problem with those lines or for that matter any other lines. Yeah, they are cheesy but I said it before and I say it again it's a freakin space opera. I expect, no I even demand a fair share of trash appeal. However the whole scene in which these lines occur is pretty akward to say the least. I mean come on, compared to the supposed heads of the Alliance even the Council looks like the motherf'n epitome of competence.

Anyway, I'm off finding something that I can put some delicious cheese on and then bake it.

Modifié par Son of a Witch, 18 février 2012 - 05:08 .

[nitefyre410]

Son of a Witch wrote...

I don't really see too much of a problem with those lines or for that matter any other lines. Yeah, they are cheesy but I said it before and I say it again it's a freakin space opera. I expect, no I even demand a fair share of trash appeal. However the whole scene in which these lines occur is pretty akward to say the least. I mean come on, compared to the supposed heads of the Alliance even the Council looks like the motherf'n epitome of competence.

Anyway, I'm off finding something that I can put some delicious cheese on and then bake it.

 


Cheesy like a good pizza

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Son of a Witch wrote...
. I mean come on, compared to the supposed heads of the Alliance even the Council looks like the motherf'n epitome of competence.

Let's wait and see if the Council is any better this time around.
Especially the turian.

[nitefyre410]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Son of a Witch wrote...
. I mean come on, compared to the supposed heads of the Alliance even the Council looks like the motherf'n epitome of competence.

Let's wait and see if the Council is any better this time around.
Especially the turian.

 


you don't know  how hard I facedesk when  heard the pulled the cover up and  wrote it off as geth ship.  

[incinerator950]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I think ME would actually be less fun if it was never cheesy.

I actually liked that Shepard was more simplistic and serious in ME 2 then ME 1.  I hate corny cheesy dialogue, the reason why I disliked listining to conversations in the Marvel games, reason why I ignored a lot of RPG context ten years ago.