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[Sad Affleck]

I don't like it.
As an infiltrator i want a better 1 shot sniper like the Widow (or something weaker because the widow is OP ) but all i get is lame shotgun mods and female vanguard upgrades.
I want a store where you can purchase what you can or class and weapon specific creates because the current system is horrible for a game where equipment matters.

[Ricvenart]

IsaacShep wrote...

Yumi50 wrote...

I'm level 60 in game with only Adept and Vanguard max out at 20, but i already got krogan soldier, asari adept, drell vanguard, quarian engineer, and salarian infiltrator. I even got 3-4 customisation for them. So, i think it's just a matter of luck.

No offence but yeah, I figured this thread would be made by someone who got lucky with the packs. You wouln't be saying the same thing if you didn't get a single alien character for like 20 packs

I would, got a few alien races but no human male sentinal yet and my engi has only just managed to get an upgrade for his assault rifle which I've been using. But no new customisations for engineer either. Point being it's not exactly been favourable to me but I still love the system, besides has anyone actually been that unlucky? I'd believe it if it had "alien they want" on the end.

@above me: I've recieved a ton of shotgun mods too, but my widow is level 6...shame I never use either.

Modifié par Ricvenart, 18 février 2012 - 06:18 .

[Sad Affleck]

Ricvenart wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Yumi50 wrote...

I'm level 60 in game with only Adept and Vanguard max out at 20, but i already got krogan soldier, asari adept, drell vanguard, quarian engineer, and salarian infiltrator. I even got 3-4 customisation for them. So, i think it's just a matter of luck.

No offence but yeah, I figured this thread would be made by someone who got lucky with the packs. You wouln't be saying the same thing if you didn't get a single alien character for like 20 packs

I would, got a few alien races but no human male sentinal yet and my engi has only just managed to get an upgrade for his assault rifle which I've been using. But no new customisations for engineer either. Point being it's not exactly been favourable to me but I still love the system, besides has anyone actually been that unlucky? I'd believe it if it had "alien they want" on the end.

@above me: I've recieved a tonne of shotgun mods too, but my widow is level 6...shame I never use either.

You have a level 6 widow? 
I guess the random system really hates me becouse i never get anyhting useful. 
I understand when players want this to stay becouse they got what they wanted but a lot of people like me are very unlucky with this rushed system.

[NYG1991]

It's not too bad. It's just frustrating getting 3 female sentinels in a row. Hopefully they have different packs that are geared to more specific things(weapons/ upgrades etc.)

[Hyrist]

It's a Skinner Box, but I'm ok with that, as the gameplay is good enough to play without caring too much about the grind and there's more than enough interesting things to level while I wait for the unlocks I want to show up.

[Ricvenart]

bagman-HUN wrote...

You have a level 6 widow? 
I guess the random system really hates me becouse i never get anyhting useful. 
I understand when players want this to stay becouse they got what they wanted but a lot of people like me are very unlucky with this rushed system.

Which I never use because I didn't want it, on the other hand the things I do want I haven't got. You seemed to miss that part. I've not been lucky and don't want it to stay because I have, I want it to stay because we are all equally under the thumb of lady luck, just cause someone has got something they want or you want doesn't make them luckier really, the system hasn't favoured them. Nor are you unlucky for not getting the item you want, with so many unlocks it may take a while but it's not like you have a chance of getting absolutely nothing in the box.
If you could just purchase you're level 20 Inf. a Rank 6 widow would you really want to keep playing as much as you do now or put in less effort because you have what you need? Would you maybe look down on other's equipment because it's not the best? As it stands the system deters both these things and more, even if you are not one of those people.
I actually feel that it in all likelyhood wasn't rushed for this reason.

To getting 3 of the same thing in a row, if you already have it it grants experience and possibly new looks.

Modifié par Ricvenart, 18 février 2012 - 02:18 .

[DragonRageGT]

It really should be called Widowmaker. =)

And I like the system. When I join a game still in the lobby and see all team with the same class, i leave immediately. Not much fun if everybody played only one or two races/classes.

[Turran]

I actually like it.. You have bought many Vet packs and nothing then suddenly BAM! You get a new VERY powerful shotgun out of no-where! Makes you feel awesome!

[EVILFLUFFMONSTER]

My best stuff came from normal packs - vet packs havent yielded much so far lol!

[MrAnthonyDraft]

I like the system a lot. But, considering the amount of whining coming from the community, I'd say they should add more specific packs. Recruit and Veteran packs should stay for those who like the system.

[Blitz099]

I like the system, but I still havent unlocked any races. This is how I think it should work; by getting a character to level 20 you are then able to pick a gold item, such as a new character or rare wepon, as getting to level 20 takes a fairly long time, and it would be a nice reward. You would also have the packs for the random chance of an unlock aswel

[darkblade]

I like the idea of the system but i dont like they way it's implemented.

I feel that they should have found some, average score or highest score bracket possible for completing a mission and based the price of certain high priority features on that (class/race) so that they would be extremely specific.

Average things like mod's and not uber weapons shouldn't have to be gambled over, low lvl mission equipment and essential item like medi gel, extra ammo, and rockets are things that the player needs to better their class and stay in the fight longer and make the grind bearable.

In my opinion this is where the system fails, in an MMO its true that for that weapon or armor you want you have to grind it out (random drops with like 1% drop rate), but all the things you need for your first raid can usually be bought from a vendor. Im not saying to let us buy weapons like the widow and other high end weapons what im saying is that we need the ability to just purchase decent weapons and basic mission necessities leave the random prize boxes for the truly good things. I dont want to spend 20,000 credits to maybe get a rocket.

Modifié par darkblade, 18 février 2012 - 04:03 .

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

It is necessary to keep the game alive and people playing, because lets be honest, the gameplay for MP isn't exactly a different ballgame everytime, its quite similar and it wouldn't take long to upgrade to all the gear you would want and with all the characters you want maxed.

[Ricvenart]

darkblade wrote...

Average things like mod's and not uber weapons shouldn't have to be gambled over, low lvl mission equipment and essential item like medi gel, extra ammo, and rockets are things that the player needs to better their class and stay in the fight longer and make the grind bearable.

You don't need rockets, you don't even really need medi gel due to others being able to revive you or ammo due to boxes all over the map
You barely need to go to an ammo box, with tech skills and the amount you get to begin with you can last a round and go near full with the wave complete refill.
They are all nice things to have and save complete failure, but you still get stuff then for the "grind" which is is far from unbearable.

Besides don't recruit boxes always give 1 ammo and 1 medi gel, Veteran always giving 3 and a few other items (5/6 different things per box isn't it?)

I just checked it wasn't the Widow but the Mantis and rank V not VI, although I just got rank VI for it, not that it matters when all I carry with me is a rifle and super fast recharge speeds.

Modifié par Ricvenart, 18 février 2012 - 06:17 .

[ed87]

I like having random characters, but pairing that with random weapon and item unlocks gives it the potential to be very frustrating. The whole thing reminds me of collecting pokemon cards back in school.

Games like BF3 have persistent unlocks where you only get upgrades for things you actually use. It sounds good in theory, but the downside is the realisation that everyone keeps using the same weapons...

I like the system in Dawn of War 2 the last stand. Players are different due to their choice of equipment, not due to their luck in unlocking them

[darkblade]

If you could just purchase you're level 20 Inf. a Rank 6 widow would you really want to keep playing as much as you do now or put in less effort because you have what you need?

why do people always exaggerate?

I can barely respond to this statement its so mind boggling. Please tell me an online shooter with rank progression where you can unlock or purchase a maxed out class, and maxed out weapon.

He just want to buy the freaking class he paid his money to play as.

If people dont get what they want within a reasonable time frame or have no idea how long until they get what they are after they will start reurning/selling/trading in thier copy of ME 3.

Games like BF3 have persistent unlocks where you only get upgrades for things you actually use. It sounds good in theory, but the downside is the realisation that everyone keeps using the same weapons...

understand, that is not the systems fault that is the players fault. one person does well with a certain weapon then tells someone else and it snowballs.

I would like more complicated system for unlocking things something like a mix of MW3 and Fable.

Modifié par darkblade, 21 février 2012 - 12:18 .

[Dubs77]

While the unlocks for me at times have been frustrating, blowing tons of money to not get ANYTHING i wanted or needed. Its definitely been rewarding when ive received something of use or finally getting something I wanted!

I like the random selection as it keeps me playing to unlock more also i tend to try out items or classes ive acquired i wouldnt normally try since im not allowed to pick what i want right from the gate.

Like for example i played my vanguard a bit but used some Cryo rounds with all the shotgun loot id acquired but didnt want. My shotgun had a blade attachment that upped melee damage and the Cryo rounds would freeze the dude and i would obliterate with shotgun in one hit.

These kind of experimentations I probably wouldnt have found had i just made an asari adept from the start and stuck with it. but the unlocks make me play with different classes and their loadouts..

I just wish i didnt get so much crap i didnt want like sniper guns and smg parts haha

Modifié par Dubs77, 21 février 2012 - 12:56 .

[Dubs77]

Now with that said.. Now that ive found out what i like for the most part, it will be frustrating to never quite get back to it due to this randomization when the game goes live haha

[K1n6B3aZt]

i spent over 300,000 on veteran packs. i been getin 3 female vangaurd upgrades  2 female sentinel 5 WEAK weapons and random equipment. I WISH BIOWARE WOULD LET US PICK OUR RACES.
I DONT THINK THATS UNFAIR. and maybe 1 weapon too.

Modifié par K1n6B3aZt, 21 février 2012 - 01:12 .

[Syrus101]

I do and I dont....

I like the randomness because you never know what your gona get... keeps you wanting to get another pack to see what else you can get...

I dont like it for two reasons: 1. not unlocking what you want to unlock. 2. unlocking the same piece of equipment you never use multiple times to the point its 5+ levels higher than your most used weapons

[FlyingWalrus]

Nope.

I like the randomness of the "booster pack" system.

It's like opening a chest of loot in any traditional RPG: you never know what you're going to get. It might be great, or it might be 'meh', or it might be "best day ever" worthy.

[Father Alvito]

We can potentially have the best of both worlds here with a little tweaking. The booster pack system works reasonably well in a trading card game because you can swap for what you need using either cards or money. I understand Bioware's intentions, but it can be frustrating without those elements.

Two possible tweaks:

1) Let us buy what we want at prices that are much steeper than what we'd have to spend to get a single card of similar rarity on average.
2) Secondary market for cards. Let us sell the stuff we don't want to other players in order to get the stuff we do want. Hike the price of booster packs to account for the resulting increased unlock efficiency.

[HolyAvenger]

Trading is a cracking idea.

I'd swap my drell vanguard and krogan soldier in a heartbeat for a salarian infiltrator or turian sentinel.

[MythicLegands]

I would honestly pay real money to play as my class I wanted along the the stuff I want then go through the god awful store system(I bet that's EA real plan)

Modifié par MythicLegands, 21 février 2012 - 02:00 .

[Hell OX77]

i don't mind it, but when you buy like 5 vet packs in a row and only get weapon upgrades and no other playable race besides the only you start out with it,  can get a bit much i would love to buy the races in the final version of it but other then that add another pack and i think that should do it.

Modifié par Hell OX77, 21 février 2012 - 02:00 .