There are people out there who understand flanking, right?
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Posté 18 février 2012 - 10:21
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Posté 18 février 2012 - 10:59
Modifié par Drotter, 18 février 2012 - 11:54 .
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Posté 18 février 2012 - 11:16
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Posté 18 février 2012 - 11:20
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Posté 18 février 2012 - 11:29
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Posté 18 février 2012 - 11:45
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Posté 18 février 2012 - 11:52
For example, most people would flank a guardian because of his shield which makes sense; however, as a sniper you can put a well placed shot in that eye slit for a free head shot without even moving your position.
When tactics come to mind, I prefer to look back at the Archangel recruitment mission and putting myself in Garrus' position while the rest of my team work out the things Shepard was doing.
Modifié par SirCrimz, 18 février 2012 - 12:00 .
#33
Posté 18 février 2012 - 12:02
Jarrett Lee wrote...
I flank
Me too, I probably get more kills that way than going head on.
#34
Posté 18 février 2012 - 12:30
A good vanguard and flank/disrupt the enemy formation and get the **** out without getting killed.
When defending, I stay in the hacking area and help with suppression fire unless things are getting hairy and some bait is needed to keep the rest of the team alive (hacking with an ATLAS spawning 5 feet away).
#35
Posté 18 février 2012 - 12:33
ncknck wrote...
So the OP complains his team mates dont protect him? But, have you tried to cover them for a change? Teamwork, any teamwork, is all about compromises. If everyone will insist in doing his own thing, no teamwork will occur, and mission will fail.These are the same people who cost me game after game. I keep getting killed from behind because of these geniuses. , how hard is it to provide cover for squadmates?
Besides. Many people actually DO flank which indeed to an unexperienced eye could be perceived as running around. Since to flank an enemy they have to.. run around him through another corridor.
the correct answer is ofc, why is the OP sitting in position where he easily can be killed from behind and why doesnt he check his environment by himself. I've seen these people. On the icy map, they are camping on a place which is down the respawn point ladder, which is the worst place to be ever, and expect people to cover them, which is ofc simply impossible. Sitting ducks.
That, when there is a snug little room right next to it with only two entrances, makes two on each side and relative ease.
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Posté 18 février 2012 - 12:34
#37
Posté 18 février 2012 - 12:38
Volus Warlord wrote...
How to Flank: The Four F's
1.) Find 'em
Spot the enemy and ensure your allies know of their location, as well as a loose idea of their numbers.
2.) Fire 'em
Lay down suppressing fire (or abilities) to force your enemies to take cover. If they are suppressed, their ability to move and fire back will be greatly limited.
3.) Flank 'em
While maintaining suppressing fire, send some squadmates around, preferably so that you make a 90 degree angle. The idea is that the flanking team has cover while the targeted group does not, allowing them to take potshots at the targeted team that is behind cover to the suppressing team.
4.) Finish 'em
The flanking team makes the kill from the side.
Took the words right out of my mouth...NOW GIVE THEM BACK!!! *Krogan Charges*
Seriously though, take this advice (anyone that is in MP for the points), and always....ALWAYS buddy up (with at least one other player) and check your six. I use it in airsoft, and it always works for me.
Rules to follow:
Four F's (mentioned above)
Buddy System- partner up or follow someone, and look in areas that you don't see him/her looking at (more eyes covering different areas gives you the advantage), and AWLAYS take a couple seconds to check your six (especially if you're following someone).
Communicate- tell people if and where you spot enemies, ID them if you can and priorize by most lethal to least lethal threat level (Atlus, Phantoms, and Turrets/Engineers to Guardians, Centurions, and Assault Troops)
PTO- Play the Objective. If they need to go somewhere, change your location to give the best support fire, or do the objctive yourself. Always keep moving. If you're staying still for too long, you may be doing it wrong.
Co-op games like ME's encourage this behavior, and slaughters you when you don't.
I can help. I hate sniping and prefer to get my kills by being defensive, unless the situation requires otherwise. My XBL is PinoyForce10
Modifié par frozngecko, 18 février 2012 - 12:55 .
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Posté 18 février 2012 - 03:45
#39
Posté 18 février 2012 - 06:30
I sadly do not own a PC, and if I did, it probably wouldn't be capable of running ME3Fredvdp wrote...
Have you also tried the demo on PC? I played some really fun games with PnXMarcin1PL, Mesina, TedoM and many other forumites. We kick silver's ass.javierabegazo wrote...
OP, you sound like you need some smarter people on your friendslist to play with.
Add me on xbox live
Gamertag: Xavier Estrago
I'm usually the guy standing behind the guardian with a shotgun.
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Posté 18 février 2012 - 06:35
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Posté 18 février 2012 - 06:46
Guest_Aotearas_*
The latter can supply the group with crossfire capability with drones or sentry turrets, whilst the former simply charges at the farmost enemie and draws aggro so the team can comfortably mow the enemy down.
Alternatively, Vanguards do great as a threat-deny utility. Phantom around? No problem, I got this, charge the Phantom, draw its attention and then lure it away. With maxed out charge and decent cooldown, a Vanguard can easily solo a Phantom or at the very least keep it at bay indefinately, so that in the end, either the Phantom chokes on a shotgun barrel or another teammate finishes it off while it was distracted.
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Posté 18 février 2012 - 06:47
ncknck wrote...
So the OP complains his team mates dont protect him? But, have you tried to cover them for a change? Teamwork, any teamwork, is all about compromises. If everyone will insist in doing his own thing, no teamwork will occur, and mission will fail.These are the same people who cost me game after game. I keep getting killed from behind because of these geniuses. , how hard is it to provide cover for squadmates?
Besides. Many people actually DO flank which indeed to an unexperienced eye could be perceived as running around. Since to flank an enemy they have to.. run around him through another corridor.
the correct answer is ofc, why is the OP sitting in position where he easily can be killed from behind and why doesnt he check his environment by himself. I've seen these people. On the icy map, they are camping on a place which is down the respawn point ladder, which is the worst place to be ever, and expect people to cover them, which is ofc simply impossible. Sitting ducks.
Yeah the OP is not talking about you flanking. He's asking his teammate to cover his flank so he can camp. He's not happy because his teammates go looking for the enemies and he gets shot in the back. The thing you have to understand is the enemies spawn where you teammates aren't. If you stay in one place but you team moves the enemies will spawn behind you. They will spawn in the buildings and you can't watch every direction by yourself. You need to be moving yoursel to avoid getting flanked or you need to learn how to predict the enemy spawns. It's pretty easy to know where they are going to be coming from.
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Posté 18 février 2012 - 06:52
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Posté 18 février 2012 - 07:06
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Modifié par Creyes one, 18 février 2012 - 07:13 .
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Posté 18 février 2012 - 07:15
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ElementL09 wrote...
You don't really need to flank enemeis, from my experience players need to worry about being flanked. I got no problem with dealing with whats infront of me (besides an atlas if I'm not planning on using rockets), itsjust getting flanked is the one thing that kills a whole squad.
It may be the Vanguard speaking in me, but isn't flanking the enemy the best method of avoiding oneself getting outmanouvred? There aren't too many routes from which the enemy can flank you on the current maps and if you're using them to bring down mayhem on the enemy, they can't do it themselves on you ... at least that is my perspective.
I always make sure that at least all pathways are screened in the heat of battle, which makes me the classical zp-around Vanguard when no one else does it.
#48
Posté 18 février 2012 - 07:45
ncknck wrote...
So the OP complains his team mates dont protect him? But, have you tried to cover them for a change? Teamwork, any teamwork, is all about compromises. If everyone will insist in doing his own thing, no teamwork will occur, and mission will fail.These are the same people who cost me game after game. I keep getting killed from behind because of these geniuses. , how hard is it to provide cover for squadmates?
Besides. Many people actually DO flank which indeed to an unexperienced eye could be perceived as running around. Since to flank an enemy they have to.. run around him through another corridor.
the correct answer is ofc, why is the OP sitting in position where he easily can be killed from behind and why doesnt he check his environment by himself. I've seen these people. On the icy map, they are camping on a place which is down the respawn point ladder, which is the worst place to be ever, and expect people to cover them, which is ofc simply impossible. Sitting ducks.
What he means by covering him is staying in one area and making sure that no enemies come through.
Imagine an area shaped like a cross. Each end point of the cross is covered by one teammate. That way no one can sneak behind any teammate. Now if one teammate decies to leave his spot and assist another teammate, the enemy can use that opening to flank the team. Therefore leaving your position should only be done if another team member actually needs help.
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Posté 18 février 2012 - 08:15
#50
Posté 18 février 2012 - 08:16
We can flank if we want to.
We can leave your friends behind.
Cause' your friends don't flank,
and if they don't flank, well they're
no friends of mine
I am sorry in advance for any trauma this may cause.





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