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I'm more of a team player or supporting the other. When the other person goes the other way, I'll flank the other route or cover the backs since enemy can flank both sides. When a vanguard charges like crazy, I'll mop up any stragglers or watch his/her back. It all depends on the situation. If we're hacking, I'll sit in the area and cover the other area while teammates cover the other one. Surviving and accomplishing the mission is way more fun than hunting for points :) plus the priiiiiizzzzeee after successful mission is good. My EA Origins is CapMonkey if anyone wants to play together :)

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I generally try to at least flank strategically, if not tactically. With the vanguard and infiltrator builds I generally prefer to play, I'm usually the one in the thick of the action, so its hard to setup flanking fire. Also I may start out down one corridor, trying to flank, only to find I'm running into a blob of enemies and I need to charge to something halfway across the map.

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The infiltrator is my favourite class atm, so I spend most of my time flanking the enemy.

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I know the function of a flank, but unless it is an imperative, I'd prefer to not attempt to flank and instead attempt to protect our flanks as best I can instead. Everyone I've been playing with seems to ignore tactics and just charge out into the open, killing themselves and the teammate(s) that attempt to go in after him. That, or they all bunch up on a single position, covering one route and then get killed by flanking enemies.

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I watch where my team are, and we usually have two attacking head on, and the other two flank to either side or watch the main teams back. As a salarian infiltrator with a high cloaking level - my weapon of choice is a shotgun, and nothing else. My prox mine takes out lower level enemies from range, recharges fast, and energy drain is awesome for ripping out enemy shields, for me to one-shot them with my cloaked bonus. I always play the flanker, as my cloak is perfect for doing this and making a getaway. However, if there is a hard wave coming up I often stay near the main team to watch their backs against phantoms, as it works both ways - the snipers watch my back on the front line - I protect theirs when things get hairy.

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I know what flanking is, but I still prefer my play style. If the objective is to take out hostiles then I'll put myself in the perfect sniping vantage point (a spot that oversees the enemy spawn locations) and cover my squad mates from afar. There really isn't a need to be going close quarters unless you need to hack a terminal or those other hack/guard 'x'.

For example, most people would flank a guardian because of his shield which makes sense; however, as a sniper you can put a well placed shot in that eye slit for a free head shot without even moving your position.

When tactics come to mind, I prefer to look back at the Archangel recruitment mission and putting myself in Garrus' position while the rest of my team work out the things Shepard was doing.

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Jarrett Lee wrote...

I flank :)


Me too, I probably get more kills that way than going head on.

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The whole idea of a vanguard is to be bait or flanker.

A good vanguard and flank/disrupt the enemy formation and get the **** out without getting killed.

When defending, I stay in the hacking area and help with suppression fire unless things are getting hairy and some bait is needed to keep the rest of the team alive (hacking with an ATLAS spawning 5 feet away).

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ncknck wrote...

These are the same people who cost me game after game. I keep getting killed from behind because of these geniuses. , how hard is it to provide cover for squadmates?

So the OP complains his team mates dont protect him? But, have you tried to cover them for a change? Teamwork, any teamwork, is all about compromises. If everyone will insist in doing his own thing, no teamwork will occur, and mission will fail.

Besides. Many people actually DO flank which indeed to an unexperienced eye could be perceived as running around. Since to flank an enemy they have to.. run around him through another corridor.


the correct answer is ofc, why is the OP sitting in position where he easily can be killed from behind and why doesnt he check his environment by himself. I've seen these people. On the icy map, they are camping on a place which is down the respawn point ladder, which is the worst place to be ever, and expect people to cover them, which is ofc simply impossible. Sitting ducks.


That, when there is a snug little room right next to it with only two entrances, makes two on each side and relative ease.

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If I'm not pinned down, I will always flank to cover/protect my teammates. It's a really satisfying feeling to nail a Guardian in the back when they have a buddy cornered.

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Volus Warlord wrote...

How to Flank: The Four F's

1.) Find 'em
Spot the enemy and ensure your allies know of their location, as well as a loose idea of their numbers.

2.) Fire 'em
Lay down suppressing fire (or abilities) to force your enemies to take cover. If they are suppressed, their ability to move and fire back will be greatly limited.

3.) Flank 'em
While maintaining suppressing fire, send some squadmates around, preferably so that you make a 90 degree angle. The idea is that the flanking team has cover while the targeted group does not, allowing them to take potshots at the targeted team that is behind cover to the suppressing team.

4.) Finish 'em
The flanking team makes the kill from the side.


Took the words right out of my mouth...NOW GIVE THEM BACK!!! *Krogan Charges*

Seriously though, take this advice (anyone that is in MP for the points), and always....ALWAYS buddy up (with at least one other player) and check your six.  I use it in airsoft, and it always works for me.

Rules to follow:
Four F's (mentioned above)
Buddy System- partner up or follow someone, and look in areas that you don't see him/her looking at (more eyes covering different areas gives you the advantage), and AWLAYS take a couple seconds to check your six (especially if you're following someone).
Communicate- tell people if and where you spot enemies, ID them if you can and priorize by most lethal to least lethal threat level (Atlus, Phantoms, and Turrets/Engineers to Guardians, Centurions, and Assault Troops)
PTO- Play the Objective. If they need to go somewhere, change your location to give the best support fire, or do the objctive yourself. Always keep moving. If you're staying still for too long, you may be doing it wrong.

Co-op games like ME's encourage this behavior, and slaughters you when you don't.

I can help. I hate sniping and prefer to get my kills by being defensive, unless the situation requires otherwise. My XBL is PinoyForce10

Modifié par frozngecko, 18 février 2012 - 12:55 .


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Now, usually I don't flank because it exposes myself to fire, however, if I have adequate coverfire from my teammates, and they instruct me to flank, I'll do it.

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Fredvdp wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

OP, you sound like you need some smarter people on your friendslist to play with.

Add me on xbox live

Gamertag: Xavier Estrago

Have you also tried the demo on PC? I played some really fun games with PnXMarcin1PL, Mesina, TedoM and many other forumites. We kick silver's ass.

I'm usually the guy standing behind the guardian with a shotgun.

I sadly do not own a PC, and if I did, it probably wouldn't be capable of running ME3  :(

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I will be looking for people w/headsets when the full game comes out. Hard to use tactics without them. That said i have played with groups who stick together and watch each other's backs. When i play with people that seem like they know what they are doing i stick with them and cover them. When i play with people that are running all over the place i just make the best of it. It's still fun

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That's why I love playing Vanguard or Engineer!

The latter can supply the group with crossfire capability with drones or sentry turrets, whilst the former simply charges at the farmost enemie and draws aggro so the team can comfortably mow the enemy down.

Alternatively, Vanguards do great as a threat-deny utility. Phantom around? No problem, I got this, charge the Phantom, draw its attention and then lure it away. With maxed out charge and decent cooldown, a Vanguard can easily solo a Phantom or at the very least keep it at bay indefinately, so that in the end, either the Phantom chokes on a shotgun barrel or another teammate finishes it off while it was distracted.

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ncknck wrote...

These are the same people who cost me game after game. I keep getting killed from behind because of these geniuses. , how hard is it to provide cover for squadmates?

So the OP complains his team mates dont protect him? But, have you tried to cover them for a change? Teamwork, any teamwork, is all about compromises. If everyone will insist in doing his own thing, no teamwork will occur, and mission will fail.

Besides. Many people actually DO flank which indeed to an unexperienced eye could be perceived as running around. Since to flank an enemy they have to.. run around him through another corridor.


the correct answer is ofc, why is the OP sitting in position where he easily can be killed from behind and why doesnt he check his environment by himself. I've seen these people. On the icy map, they are camping on a place which is down the respawn point ladder, which is the worst place to be ever, and expect people to cover them, which is ofc simply impossible. Sitting ducks.


Yeah the OP is not talking about you flanking.  He's asking his teammate to cover his flank so he can camp.  He's not happy because his teammates go looking for the enemies and he gets shot in the back.  The thing you have to understand is the enemies spawn where you teammates aren't.  If you stay in one place but you team moves the enemies will spawn behind you.  They will spawn in the buildings and you can't watch every direction by yourself.  You need to be moving yoursel to avoid getting flanked or you need to learn how to predict the enemy spawns.  It's pretty easy to know where they are going to be coming from.

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I like to let the idiots take them heads on then I quietly sneak in from behind and it them all with a singularity bwahahahahaha

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Typically I've found that if your team sticks together in at least groups of two you won't run into too many problems. In fact I've noticed some of the objectives are actually a fair bit easier if you have a team of two that focuses on the objective and another team that keeps the enemy occupied elsewhere on the map. That said, your teammates still have to be competent and not getting themselves downed every 30 seconds.

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You don't really need to flank enemeis, from my experience players need to worry about being flanked. I got no problem with dealing with whats infront of me (besides an atlas if I'm not planning on using rockets), itsjust getting flanked is the one thing that kills a whole squad.

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I wish you could not see your points while on a mission...I think that would help alot and after you finish the mission, fail or succeeded it will reveal all the points.for each person, that way people would not worry about there individual self would work as more of a team..

Modifié par Creyes one, 18 février 2012 - 07:13 .


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ElementL09 wrote...

You don't really need to flank enemeis, from my experience players need to worry about being flanked. I got no problem with dealing with whats infront of me (besides an atlas if I'm not planning on using rockets), itsjust getting flanked is the one thing that kills a whole squad.


It may be the Vanguard speaking in me, but isn't flanking the enemy the best method of avoiding oneself getting outmanouvred? There aren't too many routes from which the enemy can flank you on the current maps and if you're using them to bring down mayhem on the enemy, they can't do it themselves on you ... at least that is my perspective.


I always make sure that at least all pathways are screened in the heat of battle, which makes me the classical zp-around Vanguard when no one else does it.

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ncknck wrote...

These are the same people who cost me game after game. I keep getting killed from behind because of these geniuses. , how hard is it to provide cover for squadmates?

So the OP complains his team mates dont protect him? But, have you tried to cover them for a change? Teamwork, any teamwork, is all about compromises. If everyone will insist in doing his own thing, no teamwork will occur, and mission will fail.

Besides. Many people actually DO flank which indeed to an unexperienced eye could be perceived as running around. Since to flank an enemy they have to.. run around him through another corridor.


the correct answer is ofc, why is the OP sitting in position where he easily can be killed from behind and why doesnt he check his environment by himself. I've seen these people. On the icy map, they are camping on a place which is down the respawn point ladder, which is the worst place to be ever, and expect people to cover them, which is ofc simply impossible. Sitting ducks.


What he means by covering him is staying in one area and making sure that no enemies come through. 
Imagine an area shaped like a cross. Each end point of the cross is covered by one teammate. That way no one can sneak behind any teammate. Now if one teammate decies to leave his spot and assist another teammate, the enemy can use that opening to flank the team. Therefore leaving your position should only be done if another team member actually needs help.

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Oh, I'm familiar with the concept of flanking. I especially love Firebase White--running down through that hall and coming out on the enemy's side. Alternately, I'll just Charge into a group, get them out of cover to attack me, and then let the others in my party shoot them in the back while I focus on staying alive.

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Part of me wants to sum up the thread like this

We can flank if we want to.
We can leave your friends behind.
Cause' your friends don't flank,
and if they don't flank, well they're
no friends of mine

I am sorry in advance for any trauma this may cause.