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[heisman45]

 

[thepiebaker]

quarians should be punished by being forced to live in the ghettos of earth without their enviro suits and be prostitutes as well

genophage needs to be cured and krogan should ban under the banner of shepard and conquer the galaxy after the defeat of the reapers

[What a Succulent Ass]

heisman45 wrote...

 

...Indeed.

At any rate, if I'm forced to choose between factions, it will be the quarians and salarians.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 18 février 2012 - 07:42 .

[AgitatedLemon]

Neither are right; Both are wrong.

The quarians were wrong in their "lololol genocide :D" strategy, and the geth didn't really need to drive them to near extinction. Then again, the quarians were the ones who kept the war going. to that point anyway, so maybe they're more stupid.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 18 février 2012 - 07:50 .

[Gabey5]

I don't like the Quarians and will screw them over at the first opportunity

The Genophage will be cured.

if they get out of line again we will end the krogan species

[Legion64]

Quarians decide to go on a genocide because their slaves were beginning to understand their reasons for their creation? Yeah, the Quarians got what they deserved by getting kicked off their planet. I too will screw over those evil Quarians for such a disgusting act.

Modifié par Legion64, 18 février 2012 - 07:49 .

[izmirtheastarach]

Quarians: Oh noes! The Geth have realized they are slaves. I know what to do next, let's kill them. This is not unethical at all, right? I'm sure nothing bad will come of it.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 18 février 2012 - 07:48 .

[NOD-INFORMER37]

All species have their pros/cons, jeezus.

[KotorEffect3]

Will try to get peaceful resolution of geth/quarian conflict, if I can't get that than I am leaning toward picking the quarians however that decision is not final. As far as the genophage goes I am curing it, let the consequences fall where they will the Krogan are awesome.

[heisman45]

Well my forum so I should put my opinion.
I side with the Geth obviously but I can see why the Quarains might of been scared but fear isn't a good enough reason to try and kill them all. (but they are sort of just machines?)
I do think the Genophage should be cured only because I trust Wrex as a leader.

[TLK Spires]

if i absolutely *had* to take sides, i'd go with quarians and krogans

[Sweawm]

Why do people think the Geth have the moral high ground? Really, they are both on equal footing.

The Geth just don't restrict their attacks to Quarians, but attack anything that enters their space; on purpose or simply by accident. Some Geth joined the Reapers for crying out loud and they couldn't see how obviously the Reapers despised them.
The Geth are simply also in the wrong and you can't expect better from either faction. If you found out if some Jet Fighters (For the lack of a better example) had gained sentience, would you be frightened of the implications? You must know that sentient beings are capable of making their own choices and therefore uncontrollable, therefore you do have a reason to fear them.

Especially with those machines being military units (Based on everything I can find on the Morning War, there were large amounts of Geth designed for military purposes), would you be afraid of them? Of course you would try and shut them down! Everything from a toaster to a bipedal combat robot has a combined conscious which may just one day decide that it has no purpose or use for you. I firmly agree that organic beings have the right to be very afraid of the Geth, and the Quarians were right at the start to curb the Geth network before it grew out of control.

Before you say: "The Geth would of never attacked if Organics never targeted them to begin with", you forget how much the Geth adhere to logic; which is both their major flaw and the reason why they can never co-exist with organics. Imagine a nice little Paragon Mass Effect universe where the Quarians never attacked the Geth for rising to sentience and the Geth continued to be obedient. Now imagine what would happen when the Reapers show up. The Heretics would rise once more and simply carry out the Morning War; except this time fighting for the Reapers. With no distinction between normal Geth and Heretics, the Quarians would have had to destroy all the Geth anyway.

Both sides crimes cancel each other out, and there really is none here with the moral high ground.

[varterral]

I'd go Quarians and Salarians. I don't need fat, stupid and hostile frog people to win the war.

[Sweawm]

Again: the Geth are only machines incapable of feeling anything or possessing any feelings for that matter. There is a difference between an intelligent life with organic emotions and something artificial that doesn't possess any concept of self preservation.

[Northern Sun]

I'd like a peaceful solution to the quarians/geth, but if I have to choose, the geth have the stronger force to fight the reapers.

While I want to cure the genophage in my heart, my head warns me that a post-reaper krogan population explosion would be devastating for humans and the other species. Hopefully with Wrex as leader some of my concerns will be put to rest.

[heisman45]

Sweawm wrote...

Why do people think the Geth have the moral high ground? Really, they are both on equal footing.

The Geth just don't restrict their attacks to Quarians, but attack anything that enters their space; on purpose or simply by accident. Some Geth joined the Reapers for crying out loud and they couldn't see how obviously the Reapers despised them.
The Geth are simply also in the wrong and you can't expect better from either faction. If you found out if some Jet Fighters (For the lack of a better example) had gained sentience, would you be frightened of the implications? You must know that sentient beings are capable of making their own choices and therefore uncontrollable, therefore you do have a reason to fear them.

Especially with those machines being military units (Based on everything I can find on the Morning War, there were large amounts of Geth designed for military purposes), would you be afraid of them? Of course you would try and shut them down! Everything from a toaster to a bipedal combat robot has a combined conscious which may just one day decide that it has no purpose or use for you. I firmly agree that organic beings have the right to be very afraid of the Geth, and the Quarians were right at the start to curb the Geth network before it grew out of control.

Before you say: "The Geth would of never attacked if Organics never targeted them to begin with", you forget how much the Geth adhere to logic; which is both their major flaw and the reason why they can never co-exist with organics. Imagine a nice little Paragon Mass Effect universe where the Quarians never attacked the Geth for rising to sentience and the Geth continued to be obedient. Now imagine what would happen when the Reapers show up. The Heretics would rise once more and simply carry out the Morning War; except this time fighting for the Reapers. With no distinction between normal Geth and Heretics, the Quarians would have had to destroy all the Geth anyway.

Both sides crimes cancel each other out, and there really is none here with the moral high ground.

I think geth deserve to be treated as any other species. They should of been given the benifet of the doubt and allowed to try and live peacefully among organics until they made a mistake and the ones who made the mistake should be punished just like an organic race.

[Legiongethinator]

Ah yes quarians how they must die

[marstor05]

the Geth were created to serve the quarians. the quarians realise the Geth are developing their own thought patterns so decide to eradicate them - and the geth fight back? How are the Geth the bad guys in this? They were threatened with extermination and fought back. perhaps they went too far, but they had the right to defend themselves.

You can say the Geth are the bad guys if you want, but self preservation is not wrong.

as far as the Salarian Krogan situation is concerned, the krogan were a threat, but what the Salarians did to them was wrong.

[AgitatedLemon]

Sweawm wrote...

Why do people think the Geth have the moral high ground? Really, they are both on equal footing.

The Geth just don't restrict their attacks to Quarians, but attack anything that enters their space; on purpose or simply by accident. Some Geth joined the Reapers for crying out loud and they couldn't see how obviously the Reapers despised them.
The Geth are simply also in the wrong and you can't expect better from either faction. If you found out if some Jet Fighters (For the lack of a better example) had gained sentience, would you be frightened of the implications? You must know that sentient beings are capable of making their own choices and therefore uncontrollable, therefore you do have a reason to fear them.

Especially with those machines being military units (Based on everything I can find on the Morning War, there were large amounts of Geth designed for military purposes), would you be afraid of them? Of course you would try and shut them down! Everything from a toaster to a bipedal combat robot has a combined conscious which may just one day decide that it has no purpose or use for you. I firmly agree that organic beings have the right to be very afraid of the Geth, and the Quarians were right at the start to curb the Geth network before it grew out of control.

Before you say: "The Geth would of never attacked if Organics never targeted them to begin with", you forget how much the Geth adhere to logic; which is both their major flaw and the reason why they can never co-exist with organics. Imagine a nice little Paragon Mass Effect universe where the Quarians never attacked the Geth for rising to sentience and the Geth continued to be obedient. Now imagine what would happen when the Reapers show up. The Heretics would rise once more and simply carry out the Morning War; except this time fighting for the Reapers. With no distinction between normal Geth and Heretics, the Quarians would have had to destroy all the Geth anyway.

Both sides crimes cancel each other out, and there really is none here with the moral high ground.

Steve the geth isn't attacking anyone. The heretics are the ones killing people, even after the war ended. In fact, Steve the geth and his friends are preserving Rannoch for the quarians inevitable return.

And the geth weren't initially designed as instruments of war, they were servants ad hard labor. They (as said in the codex) adapt and create parts for themselves to fit differing needs. 

The quarians were wrong in their attempted and (As far as we know) un-provoked genocide. The geth were never inherently hostile, but they sure as hell will retaliate when they are being wiped out. Admiral Koris says something similar to this.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 18 février 2012 - 08:14 .

[What a Succulent Ass]

Uplifting the krogan before they were ready was foolish. Eliminating a threat to galactic stability was not.

Edit: I fail to see why moral high ground is of any particular relevance in the quarians/geth debate. On the synthetic side, the geth reacted in self-defence; meanwhile, no living quarian is responsible for the geth's attempted extinction, and are justified in considering geth enemies.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 18 février 2012 - 08:17 .

[Ranicus56]

I don't trust the Geth. When Legion was talking about their plan he didn't seem like he was telling us everything. It just sounded like they were going to make a new kind of Reaper, to me anyway. If that changed and i can't get them to work together i might go with the Geth.

I'm pro Krogan so you know where i stand on that. 

[AgitatedLemon]

Ranicus56 wrote...

I don't trust the Geth. When Legion was talking about their plan he didn't seem like he was telling us everything. It just sounded like they were going to make a new kind of Reaper, to me anyway. If that changed and i can't get them to work together i might go with the Geth.

I'm pro Krogan so you know where i stand on that. 

How did Legion seem like he wasn't telling you everything? He can't emote or express feelings, and he has no reason to lie.

[incinerator950]

What I believe is irrelevant, however the Geth/Quarian conflict needs to end. I want both of them without each other smashing each other into a rock. However, if I had to choose based out of ME 2, I'm taking the Geth.

As to the Krogan Conflict, **** happens. The conflict ended before Humanity even had a scene on the Citadel, but what matters is it gets resolved now. I want a peaceful remedy, but unless the Salarians provide better than the Krogan, I'll attempt to cure the Genophage.

[Ranicus56]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Ranicus56 wrote...

I don't trust the Geth. When Legion was talking about their plan he didn't seem like he was telling us everything. It just sounded like they were going to make a new kind of Reaper, to me anyway. If that changed and i can't get them to work together i might go with the Geth.

I'm pro Krogan so you know where i stand on that. 

How did Legion seem like he wasn't telling you everything? He can't emote or express feelings, and he has no reason to lie.

I never said "lie" i just said he wasn't telling us every thing. Where do you get that they can't lie? Feelings have nothing to do with it. If we organics knew what they were doing we might stop them.