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[CommanderOfTheNormandy]

Assumedkilla wrote...

CommanderOfTheNormandy wrote...

i got a question. Ive got a lvl 20 asari adept. but i dont know what to choose for her.
Ive got lvl 3 stasis, justicar and warp, and lvl 2 fitness. so i still have 63 points left to spend and i dont know where to put them:/ it would be much appreciated if someone could help me out

I would say you level up Stasis and Warp all the way. I didn't go Stasis bubble, since I move too much. Really, if you're not a sniper/camper (don't mean that in a bad way) then I don't see the point in going bubble. Warp is good for taking out shields. I only use throw if something without a shield/barrier is charging me or if I want to setup a bomb with Warp. I would take Throw to level 4 since it’s only good against regular soldiers and level 4 is good enough for that. I’d spend the rest of your points improving your health, shields, power damage, and recharge rate. I'm fine going pistol only, so I wasn't that worried about reducing weight.

thanks m8, gonna try that

[hmedon]

max all but warp it suck.

[HolyAvenger]

Ehh Stasis bubble is more for CC and helping out your team than camping yourself. I rarely rack up all that many kills playing as an asari adept but I assist like its nobody's business.

You're really gimping yourself if you don't take the stasis bubble upgrade imo.

[Fenrir the Great Wolf]

I have to say Asari Adept is pretty freaking awesome. Stasis and warp are great. Use a sniper rifle or a weapon with a scope and you're good to go.

Modifié par Fenrir the Great Wolf, 22 février 2012 - 10:13 .

[Assumedkilla]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Ehh Stasis bubble is more for CC and helping out your team than camping yourself. I rarely rack up all that many kills playing as an asari adept but I assist like its nobody's business.

You're really gimping yourself if you don't take the stasis bubble upgrade imo.

Maybe it's because I play more aggressively (I usually have the most points and kills on my team). I don't mind assisting, but if I Stasis or Warp someone then I'm going to turn it into a bomb within two seconds of that happening, since I have 200% recharge, and that's faster than shooting someone to death in silver or gold, even with an AR or shotty.

[elferin91]

Ok my asari build (i'm 19 but i already know how i want it to go)
Stasis maxed -> duration, 30% insta cd (i messed up here, should have gone for recharge speed), bubble
warp rank 5 -> detonate -> lasting damage (still not sure if i should have gone for the other one or ignore this completly for fitness, but i don't see 15% bonus power damage as anything special)
throw maxed -> force -> detonate -> force & damage (my main spam ability, in combination with stasis or warp this is godly, way better then warp i'm afraid)
justicar rank 5 -> damage & capacity -> power damage (i mainly use my gun to take down shields when enemies are in stasis then doing a combo when those shields/barriers are down)
fitness rank 4-> just go for more health/barrier

[HolyAvenger]

^^ That's just wasting a stasis CD. I'd rather be stasising the next Phantom or Engineer or whoever while my sniper or team take care of the one I already froze. But yes I do carry a Carnifex for killing via headshots when necessary. Warp I only use against armoured targets or when I have the leisure to because we're owning the wave already.

[Assumedkilla]

HolyAvenger wrote...

^^ That's just wasting a stasis CD. I'd rather be stasising the next Phantom or Engineer or whoever while my sniper or team take care of the one I already froze. But yes I do carry a Carnifex for killing via headshots when necessary. Warp I only use against armoured targets or when I have the leisure to because we're owning the wave already.

I think it's a far smarter plan to turn the Stasis into a bomb, since that freezes everyone nearby. While your sniper is shooting the one guy you froze I'm getting a biotic explosion kill, which freezes the 3 or 4 enemies nearby and I kill most of them while my teammate helps, if there's one nearby. Your strategy isn't awful, but I'd rather not make a build that relies on someone else, since I play with randoms a lot and many of them aren't exactly good. Even if I were to play with friends a lot I probably wouldn't do that. Also, I’ve never had anyone dodge stasis before, it’s not slow like Warp, so if I need to use then it’s going to hit the target, I see no reason to turn it into a mine when I can have way more extra damage.

[HolyAvenger]

But the thing there is that Warp Explosion doesn't kill on silver/gold (maybe I built it wrong) so I feel like its wasting time bombing them. Plus rarely (only at the start of waves) can I catch multiples in one stasis bubble so explosions don't really feel like their worth it. Two three quick carnifex shots, you move on. Generally on silver I find people are happy to take free headshots I've set up and move on.

Anyway, horses for course. Would be boring if everyone had the same playstyle.

Edit: One more nice thing about the bubble is it makes Guardians drop their shields. Of course I see a lot more people with Widows now so that's become a little more redundant. 

Modifié par HolyAvenger, 22 février 2012 - 10:43 .

[Assumedkilla]

HolyAvenger wrote...

But the thing there is that Warp Explosion doesn't kill on silver/gold (maybe I built it wrong) so I feel like its wasting time bombing them. Plus rarely (only at the start of waves) can I catch multiples in one stasis bubble so explosions don't really feel like their worth it. Two three quick carnifex shots, you move on. Generally on silver I find people are happy to take free headshots I've set up and move on.

Anyway, horses for course. Would be boring if everyone had the same playstyle.

Edit: One more nice thing about the bubble is it makes Guardians drop their shields. Of course I see a lot more people with Widows now so that's become a little more redundant. 

I guess it depends on how you spec your character, because me exploding Stasis will kill just about everything in one blow or a bullet or two extra for the few stronger types of enemies gets the job done. If I can freeze one guy or a group, then I'll always go for the latter. I really only explode Warp if they're in cover, since it and Throw usually curve around walls, but Stasis is a straight shot.  

[Anubis81]

So just hit 20.
So far my Adapt is skilled like this:

STASIS Max with Strength, Bonus Power and Bubble
THROW Max with Radius , Detonate and Force & Damge
Justicar 5/6 with everything giving FOrce and Power dmg
and Warp/Fitnes 3/6

My problem I can't deside if I wont to max Fitness for more survivability or Warp for more dmg against Armor.

Modifié par Anubis81, 22 février 2012 - 03:01 .

[Gnarlesee]

Max everything except throw. Stasis is all the CC you need, and warp is all the damage you need

(biotic explosion warp and stasis bubble)

[hawat333]

Throw for Biotic Explosions. Following a Warp, it can be pretty devastating.

[Kaylord]

I did not skill bubble and I am pissed I cannot reskill.

I thought the extra and longer damage in statis would provide for better headshots with the Phalanx, but I guess the difference is marginal. I need about three shots and after the second, statis is already gone and he falls down which makes it difficult to finish him up when he falls behind cover.

Throw is excellent to kill guardians or for warp/throw-explosions. I have rank 3 and this is already enough to throw the guardian´s shields aside for an easy headshot. However this rank seems not enough to really get a strong combo explosion.

I experimented with the Mattock X, but found it wasn´t really doing more damage then a Palanx X so I stick to that pistol only. I also carry a Tempest X, because it is no difference to the weight penalty, but I never use it because kills are much slower with it. I would love to have a weapon for a single-hit headshot on enemies in stasis. Sadly, the Widow is too heavy and too slow to reload.

Modifié par Kaylord, 22 février 2012 - 03:19 .

[CommanderOfTheNormandy]

Modifié par CommanderOfTheNormandy, 22 février 2012 - 05:56 .

[ncknck]

Forget pistols, i run with Katana X now. Its 170% cast speed and HORDES of fun. Im a wanna-be Krogan now.

[Siven80]

So i havent played an Adept yet but from reading this it seems Warp doesnt do the explosion like it did in ME2, thats moved to throw now?

And Warp is back to how it worked in ME1 by making targets more vunerable to dmg ?

Hmm, interesting.

Modifié par Siven80, 23 février 2012 - 02:21 .

[HolyAvenger]

No warp still causes biotic explosions. Any 2 biotic effects on top of each other cause explosions. Hell a vanguard charge causes explosions.

[O66 Jenova]

I feel like Stasis + Warp Detonation is much more powerful than the Stasis + Throw Detonation... can anyone confirm this? because if it really does more damage i think i wont skill Throw to the Maximum in the full game, only to 5 for the biotic explosion bonuses for Atlasus

Modifié par O66 Jenova, 23 février 2012 - 02:39 .

[Simbacca]

Simbacca wrote...

Asari Adept.

Scoped Heavy Pistol.

The Plan:

Throw Rank 2
Warp Rank 2
Stasis Rank 4 Duration
Stasis Rank 6 Bubble
Throw Rank 5 Detonate
Throw Rank 6 Force and Damage
Fitness Rank 4 Melee Damage
Fitness Rank 5 Shield Recharge
Fitness Rank 6 Power Synergy
Asari Justicar Rank 5 Power Damage
Warp Rank 3

Currently at step 7.  Loving it so far.

I'm altering this build plan, as I've realized, unfortunately too late, that maxed out Throw does more damage to Armor than Rank 3 Warp...

The Plan:

Throw Rank 2
Stasis Rank 4 Duration
Stasis Rank 6 Bubble
Throw Rank 5 Detonate
Throw Rank 6 Force and Damage
Fitness Rank 4 Melee Damage
Fitness Rank 5 Shield Recharge
Fitness Rank 6 Power Synergy
Asari Justicar Rank 5 Power Damage
Asari Justicar Rank 6

Modifié par Simbacca, 23 février 2012 - 04:12 .

[ttt333]

HolyAvenger wrote...

No warp still causes biotic explosions. Any 2 biotic effects on top of each other cause explosions. Hell a vanguard charge causes explosions.

Asari adept + vangaurd is a ridiculous combo.  And its the one time where you steal kills from the vanguard, not the other way around, which makes it even sweeter.

[spirosz]

stasis, stasis, throw, throw, warp warp, go nuts.

Modifié par spiros9110, 23 février 2012 - 04:45 .

[D.Kain]

O66 Jenova wrote...

I feel like Stasis + Warp Detonation is much more powerful than the Stasis + Throw Detonation... can anyone confirm this? because if it really does more damage i think i wont skill Throw to the Maximum in the full game, only to 5 for the biotic explosion bonuses for Atlasus

No this is wrong. Throw detonation is more powwrful. Warp is not for detonating stasis, it is for warping atlas and then detonating it with throw.



Also it is decided, my plan is to completely ditch fitness, and max out all other powers. There is just no underused power for asari adept, it is all important and there is nothing to drop. I am going biotic/dashing like crazy with low health, but all the powers pay up for it. 

Modifié par D.Kain, 23 février 2012 - 05:06 .

[Simbacca]

D.Kain wrote...

...Warp is not for detonating stasis, it is for warping atlas and then detonating it with throw...

I thought so too, then I discovered my Asari can stunlock an Atlas and take it's Armor down faster just spamming max damage Throw, fwiw.

Modifié par Simbacca, 23 février 2012 - 05:20 .

[tomcruisejr]

Throw with the right evolution does more direct damage than warp, with a aoe splash, bigger cc, and most importantly has a much much shorter CD.  One of the reasons why human adept is horrid  caster when even compared to Human Sentinel.

Warp is only worth 1-2 ranks and just to set up a detonate on Atlas if you're feeling bored of spamming throw and just controlling/annihilating the whole battle-field with throw/stasis alone.

Modifié par tomcruisejr, 23 février 2012 - 05:24 .