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[Beatrix Tair]

1337Floctender wrote...

I'm I the only one thinking Krogan Vanguard?

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[PSUHammer]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Is it wrong that I play Vanguard casually? I don't abuse Charge or Nova. I use an Assault Rifle and a Shotgun. I focus fire when need be and charge head on when need be. I guess that's a weird way of playing Vanguard.. lol

No, but Charge + Nova is the most powerful combo in the Van's arsenal.

[Shad0wOGRE]

The problem with Vanguards is the inexperienced players that aren't playing the Vanguard. They always rush out to revive him instead of just finishing the wave. I only revive Vanguards when doing so is safe for the team.

Also, because they are taking so much risk upon themselves I try to support them with sniping. Taking out hard targets like guardians or sheilded centurions so they can focus on soft targets they can kill easily.

Of course, I can't do my job of supporting them when the other two teammates decide to run off and play cowboy too. So forumites if there is a Vanguard out there doing Vanguard-y things and there is a Sniper holding position doing Sniper-y things, WATCH the Sniper's back damn it. And don't rush to the aid of the Vanguard when he goes down, just finish the wave and it'll be fine. They expect the high risk when they pick Vanguard.

[Bandit monkey]

At first I thought they would be a problem. But the vangaurds i've played with were all pretty good.

[1337Floctender]

So my Vanguard is tough but what are some build recommendations?

[bennyjammin79]

I blame the "So Your Friend Is A Vanguard" blog.

[DennyHoffmann]

I'm playing as a vanguard since I get the demo, and I don't want to stop playing with it any time soon. It's an amazing class if you know how to make it work right, using charge and nova on the right times. I died really few times compared to other vanguards that I have played with, who must be thinking they are Chuck Norris, rushing right into an army of cerberus or against an atlas. I also have lost the count of how many times a was able to save people in the far side of the map when no one else would be able to.

Last night I played a silver match with 3 other vanguards. It was without doubt the most awesome match I have played until now. Our team work was perfect, and we were able to clear the stage really fast, and almost without deaths.

There is no need to hate vanguards, or any othe class. Bad players are in other classes too. It's stupid judge all the players of a class just because of a few.

[Chaoswind]

Depends, but going with one weapon at level one is a good way to be a bulldozer.

I began to play yesterday with my vanguard and at level 1 with charge+nova I was outkilling and destroying more targets than people at level 12.

You just need to have good reflexes and you will be able to carry bronze all the way to wave 4 on your own (at level 1).

[Beatrix Tair]

1337Floctender wrote...

So my Vanguard is tough but what are some build recommendations?

Depends how you play, I guess.

I like to get right up in their grill (always with an escape plan!) so I maxed out Fitness early & am working on Charge, Wave & Nova at the moment. Charging in with Nova's & Heavy Melee's is MY way to go...especially Heavy Melee!

[Yuoaman]

It really depends on the person, some Vanguards seem to think that they're the hero of the match and that they can just zigzag across the battlefield and die away from everyone else. It sucks when I'm trying to snipe a Nemesis and the Vanguard stand between me and my target.

There are some really great Vanguards who know how to use their powers to benefit the whole team, though.

[Chaoswind]

Now we should be thankful for bad vanguards, they are the reason average statistics show vanguard as a weak class

[bennyjammin79]

1337Floctender wrote...

So my Vanguard is tough but what are some build recommendations?

Max Charge, Fitness, Assault Mastery and Nova.

Focus on wider area of effect options with both Charge and Nova. The double strke option is key when leveling up Nova. Also be sure to choose the option to increase your barriers by 50% after a successful charge. This will increase the damage done by Nova immediately after charging. With the double strike enabled, Charge can be ready to go again after the two Nova attacks.

Be sure to choose the option to increase melee damage by 75% after an enemy is killed by a heavy melee attack. You'll be clubbing enemies to death frequently so this will make life way easier.

Equip an SMG like the Locust or my preference, the Hornet. Great for long distant precision and close quarters spray. Also this will keep your Recharge at a staggering 200% if you've reduced weapon weight in Fitness.

Hope this helps. 

[thisisme8]

I've posted about 20 ME2 Vanguard vids, but I'll see if I can't post a few for ME3 MP.

[implodinggoat]

I play as a Soldier in MP and while Vanguards aren't terrible they definitely aren't one of my preferred teammates.

Vanguard PROS:

They're speedy so they can rush in and save your ass.
They draw a lot of heat.

Vanguard CONS:

They're speedy so they're constantly cherrypicking my kills.
They tend to get themselves killed somewhere on the other side of the map.
They don't have any tools for dealing with enemies that give my class trouble (Guardians and Turrets).

[sirjimmus86]

implodinggoat wrote...

I play as a Soldier in MP and while Vanguards aren't terrible they definitely aren't one of my preferred teammates.

Vanguard PROS:

They're speedy so they can rush in and save your ass.
They draw a lot of heat.

Vanguard CONS:

They're speedy so they're constantly cherrypicking my kills.
They tend to get themselves killed somewhere on the other side of the map.
They don't have any tools for dealing with enemies that give my class trouble (Guardians and Turrets).

I agree that VG has trouble with Guradians alone if they are facing them, so I charge, then run behind them.  The Charge will get their attention, they turn round to shoot me, expose their backs to my Soldier teammate for an easy kill. Or they don't turn round, and I kill them myself.  Teamwork 4tw

[G3rman]

Your skill isn't to die. Real vanguards can do what they need to do and get out of trouble when necessary just like every other class.

[Beatrix Tair]

sirjimmus86 wrote...

I agree that VG has trouble with Guradians alone if they are facing them, so I charge, then run behind them.  The Charge will get their attention, they turn round to shoot me, expose their backs to my Soldier teammate for an easy kill. Or they don't turn round, and I kill them myself.  Teamwork 4tw

Seems like a lot of effort, in my opinion. I just throw shockwave, shotgun to the head...survived? Shockwave & melee!

[Chaoswind]

implodinggoat wrote...

I play as a Soldier in MP and while Vanguards aren't terrible they definitely aren't one of my preferred teammates.

Vanguard PROS:

They're speedy so they can rush in and save your ass.
They draw a lot of heat.

Vanguard CONS:

They're speedy so they're constantly cherrypicking my kills.
They tend to get themselves killed somewhere on the other side of the map.
They don't have any tools for dealing with enemies that give my class trouble (Guardians and Turrets).

PROS:
Both true.

CONS:

They are team kills and exp is shared at the end of the match.
Only if they are unlucky or terrible vanguards.
I beg to differ, can make them target me leaving their soft ass to face your way, not to mention that my charge staggers them.

[sirjimmus86]

There we go, two ways of dealing with them. Now it is back to being overpowered..

[PSUHammer]

You shouldn't worry about kills as much as you should surviving the match. Way more experience. That's where vanguards rule.

[Chaoswind]

But but so many vanguards die alone at wave 2!!!

All classes are overpowered in the right hands, if you are one of those players that used the tactical pause 100% of the time in ME2 or 1, then you are likely to struggle a lot more than those that didn't.