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[Thalorin1919]

I love how these sort of threads for any game pop up, all of them declaring their mass fear that this game will be nothing but ultimate fail.

Seriously, stop with these threads. Stop analyzing past years and please, please, please stop with the whole ****ing "COD-era lololol" crap.

Bioware made good games with ME1 and ME2. I have faith they will do good with ME3. If you don't want the game, don't get it. Herp derp.

[Mike Shepard]

wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, WAIT.

Mass Effect was released in 2001?

then why did I pay $60 for it at Best Buy in December 2007?


DARN YOU BEST BUY!

That was a joke.

Modifié par Mike Shepard, 18 février 2012 - 09:33 .

[Baka-no-Neko]

As you say EA has put the pressure on, but we'll just have to wait and judge for ourselves. It is extremely difficult if, as folk on this thread have said, you listen to the hype and negative speculation on here. Something's being said on BSN are true enough, the rest (IMO) in just scaremongering. The hype has reached epic levels and that has put massive strain on both loyal players and Bioware. But hopefully, like Skyrim (IMO), ME3 will blow all speculation outta the water =)

[KotorEffect3]

Atakuma wrote...

Dreadwing 67 wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Bioware is trying too hard to make games that appeal to as many people as possible, without putting much thought into the actual quality of the product. This type of mentality is what gave us DA2, which severely damaged bioware's reputation.

This is just what it feels like to me. I hope I'm wrong.

Nothing wrong with making it more appealing to the greater masses, that is never the problem. It is taking out TOO much from the core and ruining it that becomes the problem. As much as I want to defend ME3, I don't have it yet to say:crying:

Well, that is what I was trying to imply. There is nothing wrong with wanting to expand your audience, but there is something wrong when you do so by intentionally dilluting your game's mechanics until it's virtually indestinguishable from everything else.

You do realize they added some of ME 1's rpg mechanics back into ME 3 such as weapons mods and abilities such as carnage and sabotage.  Not to mention they appear to improving on armor customization.  I also noticed my Shepards leveling up a few times during the demo.

[movieguyabw]

While I'm not a fan who thinks that Bioware has sold out or anything, I do have concerns for this game. Probably mainly because I felt really let down by Dragon Age 2, and am worried that it'll happen again.

As long as I still feel like I'm playing my same Shepards, and I have a completely different experience with each Shepard, I'll be happy.

[KotorEffect3]

Thalorin1919 wrote...

I love how these sort of threads for any game pop up, all of them declaring their mass fear that this game will be nothing but ultimate fail.

Seriously, stop with these threads. Stop analyzing past years and please, please, please stop with the whole ****ing "COD-era lololol" crap.

Bioware made good games with ME1 and ME2. I have faith they will do good with ME3. If you don't want the game, don't get it. Herp derp.

Pretty much this.

[E-Type XR]

Thalorin1919 wrote...

I love how these sort of threads for any game pop up, all of them declaring their mass fear that this game will be nothing but ultimate fail.

Seriously, stop with these threads. Stop analyzing past years and please, please, please stop with the whole ****ing "COD-era lololol" crap.

Bioware made good games with ME1 and ME2. I have faith they will do good with ME3. If you don't want the game, don't get it. Herp derp.

Did you read my post? I want ME3 to succeed. This is only a small part of my mind venting.

I bring up the COD-era argument as it has had a significant effect.

And I damn well do want this game.

[Rhaigun]

I think you'd have to be worried if there was only an "action mode" in ME3. But, I think Bioware learned a lot of lessons from DA 2. Also,they've known where this story has been going since inception, so they're kind of locked in on what its been so far. No worries, everything will be fine.

[AtreiyaN7]

I think I'm tired of reading these threads. I found things that even I was critical of/nitpicky about in the demo (Shepard's expression in one scene where her eyes open way too wide), but that doesn't exactly inspire massive fear in me. Control of nuclear weapons and wars are two of the real-life issue that I'm concerned with, not so much whether or not Shepard's running animations are still goofy. It's...just...a...game. Even though I'm a passionate gamer (it's my main hobby), I'm starting to think that some people are taking their games way too seriously.

[Rickin10]

As long as I still feel like I'm playing my same Shepards, and I have a completely different experience with each Shepard, I'll be happy.

At the risk of drudging up the same thing for the millionth time, the intro - which has been confirmed is as it will be in the main game - that basically canonized Sheperd at the expense of making him/her what you wanted, leaves me feeling this will be a lot less unique experience this time around.

[KotorEffect3]

movieguyabw wrote...

While I'm not a fan who thinks that Bioware has sold out or anything, I do have concerns for this game. Probably mainly because I felt really let down by Dragon Age 2, and am worried that it'll happen again.

As long as I still feel like I'm playing my same Shepards, and I have a completely different experience with each Shepard, I'll be happy.

For crying out loud, why do people always have to bring up DA 2 in an ME 3 discussion?  Dragon Age is not Mass Effect.  I am a fan of both franchises but they are completely different franchises, different settings, different gameplay mechanics and styles, different fanbases, and different dev teams.  Why can't people figure that out?  Just because they both have bioware/EA logos on the box doesn't mean they are the same thing.  It is completely illogical and irrational for people to keep saying "but DA 2" in a freakin Mass Effect 3 discussion.

[android654]

Atakuma wrote...

Bioware is trying too hard to make games that appeal to as many people as possible, without putting much thought into the actual quality of the product. This type of mentality is what gave us DA2, which severely damaged bioware's reputation.

This is just what it feels like to me. I hope I'm wrong.

Agreed, which is why I think its best to wait for reviews.

[Nu-Nu]

I think it's going to be amazing, but I am going into ME3 with an open mind and nothing specific in my mind of what I want to happen. I realise bioware made high goals when they created ME1, I also know there is a limit to what Bioware or any game company can do. Despite that, I genuinely think I'm going to have a great experience and lot of fun with ME3.

[Lee T]

Yep I'm worried.

I hoped ME2 would be as good as ME1 and ended up disappointed (good characters but not much of a main story, things that I expected to see refined simply taken away or replaced by inferior materials).

I still had trust with DA2 and actually defended the game versus the "doomsayers" and "haters" even after playing the demo and ended up burned bad by the actual final game which I found as much disappointing as "they" said it would be.

Once bitten, twice shy, I didn't like the demo but what I want to see of the game wasn't in the Demo so I haven't cancelled my pre order but I do have lost my trust in Bioware and while I'm still not with the "doomsayer" and "haters" I'm definitely joining the doubting Thomas.

(I do pre order ME3 because I do want to see the end no matter how lame it is, but if it doesn't blow my mind that's my last Bioware pre order).

[Cainne Chapel]

Could be worse... they instead of COD-izing everything people could complain they're.... *shudder* Madden-izing the series!

NOW THAT would be funny

[Ianamus]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

movieguyabw wrote...

While I'm not a fan who thinks that Bioware has sold out or anything, I do have concerns for this game. Probably mainly because I felt really let down by Dragon Age 2, and am worried that it'll happen again.

As long as I still feel like I'm playing my same Shepards, and I have a completely different experience with each Shepard, I'll be happy.

For crying out loud, why do people always have to bring up DA 2 in an ME 3 discussion?  Dragon Age is not Mass Effect.  I am a fan of both franchises but they are completely different franchises, different settings, different gameplay mechanics and styles, different fanbases, and different dev teams.  Why can't people figure that out?  Just because they both have bioware/EA logos on the box doesn't mean they are the same thing.  It is completely illogical and irrational for people to keep saying "but DA 2" in a freakin Mass Effect 3 discussion.

Because Dragon Age 2 was a game that people had high hopes for due to the sucess of its predecessor, and it didn't live up to peoples expectations.

All the guy said was "I felt really let down by DA2 and I don't want it to happen again" He's not criticising Bioware, and the fact that the games aren't similar means nothing. He's only saying that he was looking forward to DA2 and it wasn't as good as he expected it to be, and he's worried ME3 will be the same.

It's no different to saying "I was looking forward to X, but it wasn't as great as I though. I hope that it isnt the same with Y". That statement is perfectly fine no matter what X and Y are, whether they are related nor not. 

So stop this stupid "uhhhh dont mention DA2, its ME!" crusade, becuase Its only an example of a game that didn't meet people expectations, and its only being used a lot here becuase since this is the Bioware forums its an example a lot of people here can relate to. 

Modifié par EJ107, 18 février 2012 - 09:58 .

[Cainne Chapel]

android654 wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Bioware is trying too hard to make games that appeal to as many people as possible, without putting much thought into the actual quality of the product. This type of mentality is what gave us DA2, which severely damaged bioware's reputation.

This is just what it feels like to me. I hope I'm wrong.

Agreed, which is why I think its best to wait for reviews.

You agree that they're trying to please TOO many people and yet want to wait for mainstream reviews that are tailored for the masses.....hmm...

Honestly i have not looked at one review for a game i've bought since... well since 2010 I dont think.  I just buy what I think I'll like now adays.  

[incinerator950]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

movieguyabw wrote...

While I'm not a fan who thinks that Bioware has sold out or anything, I do have concerns for this game. Probably mainly because I felt really let down by Dragon Age 2, and am worried that it'll happen again.

As long as I still feel like I'm playing my same Shepards, and I have a completely different experience with each Shepard, I'll be happy.

For crying out loud, why do people always have to bring up DA 2 in an ME 3 discussion?  Dragon Age is not Mass Effect.  I am a fan of both franchises but they are completely different franchises, different settings, different gameplay mechanics and styles, different fanbases, and different dev teams.  Why can't people figure that out?  Just because they both have bioware/EA logos on the box doesn't mean they are the same thing.  It is completely illogical and irrational for people to keep saying "but DA 2" in a freakin Mass Effect 3 discussion.

Names and symbols mean more then individuals and teams.  It's unfortunate but that even holds for marketing, design, and companies as much as people and soldiers. 

[Nu-Nu]

android654 wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Bioware is trying too hard to make games that appeal to as many people as possible, without putting much thought into the actual quality of the product. This type of mentality is what gave us DA2, which severely damaged bioware's reputation.

This is just what it feels like to me. I hope I'm wrong.

Agreed, which is why I think its best to wait for reviews.

DA2 wasn't ruined by appealing to more people, it was ruined because it was rushed, and Bioware got pressure from EA  to churn the game out while it was still hot. As someone who loved DA:O, there wasn't much changes to the gameplay, but what made it not as good was the story, not time to add more depth, and lack of exploration and repeated environments because they didn't have time to make new locations. Time was what effected DA2, not appealing to a wider audience.

[KotorEffect3]

EJ107 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

movieguyabw wrote...

While I'm not a fan who thinks that Bioware has sold out or anything, I do have concerns for this game. Probably mainly because I felt really let down by Dragon Age 2, and am worried that it'll happen again.

As long as I still feel like I'm playing my same Shepards, and I have a completely different experience with each Shepard, I'll be happy.

For crying out loud, why do people always have to bring up DA 2 in an ME 3 discussion?  Dragon Age is not Mass Effect.  I am a fan of both franchises but they are completely different franchises, different settings, different gameplay mechanics and styles, different fanbases, and different dev teams.  Why can't people figure that out?  Just because they both have bioware/EA logos on the box doesn't mean they are the same thing.  It is completely illogical and irrational for people to keep saying "but DA 2" in a freakin Mass Effect 3 discussion.

Because Dragon Age 2 was a game that people had high hopes for due to the sucess of its predecessor, and it didn't live up to peoples expectations.

All the guy said was "I felt really let down by DA2 and I don't want it to happen again" He's not criticising Bioware, and the fact that the games aren't similar means nothing. He's only saying that he was looking forward to DA2 and it wasn't as good as he expected it to be, and he's worried ME3 will be the same.

It's no different to saying "I was looking forward to X, but it wasn't as great as I though. I hope that it isnt the same with Y". That statement is perfectly fine no matter what X and Y are, whether they are related nor not. 

So stop this stupid "uhhhh dont mention DA2, its ME!" crusade, becuase Its only an example of a game that didn't meet people expectations, and its only being used a lot here becuase since this is the Bioware forums its an example a lot of people here can relate to. 

No

[android654]

Cainne Chapel wrote...

android654 wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

Bioware is trying too hard to make games that appeal to as many people as possible, without putting much thought into the actual quality of the product. This type of mentality is what gave us DA2, which severely damaged bioware's reputation.

This is just what it feels like to me. I hope I'm wrong.

Agreed, which is why I think its best to wait for reviews.

You agree that they're trying to please TOO many people and yet want to wait for mainstream reviews that are tailored for the masses.....hmm...

Honestly i have not looked at one review for a game i've bought since... well since 2010 I dont think.  I just buy what I think I'll like now adays.  

Exactly, I want to know if the changes are worth the money and effort. What better way to do that than by hearing the critiques of others who have played it?

[Ianamus]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

No

Your loss, since you're coming across as more whiny than the people your complaining about. 

[incinerator950]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

movieguyabw wrote...

While I'm not a fan who thinks that Bioware has sold out or anything, I do have concerns for this game. Probably mainly because I felt really let down by Dragon Age 2, and am worried that it'll happen again.

As long as I still feel like I'm playing my same Shepards, and I have a completely different experience with each Shepard, I'll be happy.

For crying out loud, why do people always have to bring up DA 2 in an ME 3 discussion?  Dragon Age is not Mass Effect.  I am a fan of both franchises but they are completely different franchises, different settings, different gameplay mechanics and styles, different fanbases, and different dev teams.  Why can't people figure that out?  Just because they both have bioware/EA logos on the box doesn't mean they are the same thing.  It is completely illogical and irrational for people to keep saying "but DA 2" in a freakin Mass Effect 3 discussion.

Because Dragon Age 2 was a game that people had high hopes for due to the sucess of its predecessor, and it didn't live up to peoples expectations.

All the guy said was "I felt really let down by DA2 and I don't want it to happen again" He's not criticising Bioware, and the fact that the games aren't similar means nothing. He's only saying that he was looking forward to DA2 and it wasn't as good as he expected it to be, and he's worried ME3 will be the same.

It's no different to saying "I was looking forward to X, but it wasn't as great as I though. I hope that it isnt the same with Y". That statement is perfectly fine no matter what X and Y are, whether they are related nor not. 

So stop this stupid "uhhhh dont mention DA2, its ME!" crusade, becuase Its only an example of a game that didn't meet people expectations, and its only being used a lot here becuase since this is the Bioware forums its an example a lot of people here can relate to. 

No

I wouldn't relate Baldur's Age: Origins or Dragons Gate II to Mass Effect in anyway, except voice acting and the re-use of voice actors. 

[ediskrad327]

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

Sten.

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