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[The Makatak]

The Sentinel class changed; best advice I have is to learn to roll with it.

I personally didn't play one in ME2; I wasn't a fan of the tech armor then, but I like what they did with it in ME3. It's essentially the opposite of a Adept. Adepts in ME3 multiplayer hardly use their weapons, most running around with a heavy pistol for a few oh sh*t times, and instead spam warp, throw, singularity, so on and so forth.

Sentinels, by contrast, with the heavy recharge time of their powers, appear to be more inclined to be weapons masters, which is why the Turian works so well with the class. I can build him around whatever weapon spread I want, because I'm not going to be spamming his abilities. I'm going to build his weapon damage and damage resistance. The tech armor explosion is now for those ohsh*t moments like when you have two guardians that snuck up on you, or a phantom that got right next to you. The pulse is more designed I think to stagger. So, yes, OP, absolutely build the defensive powers of the tech armor. Absolutely raise weapon damage. Absolutely don't worry about your recharge times, those abilites are not meant to be your forté.

Now, the human Sentinel is a little bit of a different case because Throw can be a spammed ability. In this case, though I don't run with her nearly as often, I like to run around with armor off and only use it for AoE pulses in the case of dire need (only put 3 points in to it), and I pretty much treat her like a more heavily equipped Adept.

With my Turian, right now I'll bounce back and forth between running with the Revenant (mainly on Bronze, just for fun and easy credits), and a Sniper/Shotgun build. I don't mind the long recharge times for powers because, god forbid, Bioware made a class that doesn't play like...nearly every other class.

Whodathunk?

Modifié par The Makatak, 22 février 2012 - 08:04 .

[Cloaking_Thane]

I guess I dont understand the fuss, I provide good support and regularly come in 1 or 2 with a Human sentinal on Silver (havent played much gold yet with the Sent).

Warp+ throw detonates and if you max it properly will do significant damage, it also has great synergy with the other caster classes. Tech armor can get yourself or team members out of a sticky jam.

Idk...guess I just disagree

[TevinterMagister]

I got tired of waiting for my turian unlock, so I finally got around to making a human sentinel. I specced her as a caster as this seemed to be the most efficient use of her.

Rank 6 Tech Armor: Damage & Radius -> Power Damage -> Power Recharge
Rank 6 Warp: Damage -> Expose -> Pierce
Rank 5 Throw: Radius -> Detonate
Rank 6 Alliance Training: Damage & Capacity -> Power Damage -> Weapon Weight
Rank 3 Fitness

0 points left at 20

I use either a single Avenger or mix it up with a a shotgun & pistol loadout and it works fine, I even get some kills with TA damage pulse, but only on weakened targets. Pulse can be useful sometimes when you rush to rez someone who is about to get stomped, buys me just enough time to get them on their feet again or when I'm surrounded and need to get to safety quickly. Also useful if a phantom gets too close and you need to gtfo, saved my hide a few times already.

[Nyadnar17]

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

I guess I dont understand the fuss, I provide good support and regularly come in 1 or 2 with a Human sentinal on Silver (havent played much gold yet with the Sent).

Warp+ throw detonates and if you max it properly will do significant damage, it also has great synergy with the other caster classes. Tech armor can get yourself or team members out of a sticky jam.

Idk...guess I just disagree

All of the people I have seen that still like Sentinel either are using a turian or playing on Bronze. You are the first Silver playing, Human Sentinel player I have seen that likes the class. Please post your build and weapon loadout. I really want to have fun with the Sentinel and I love to see something that works!

[ndw542]

I've found the ME3 Sentinel to be remarkably effective; you just have to use it correctly. It's not a Vanguard. It's a support class.

If you're playing as a Human Sentinel, you have the ability to combo well with any of the other biotic classes: Warp sets up a Vanguard's Charge or Shockwave very, very well; Throw follows Stasis, Warp, or Singularity with a big punch even when you haven't dumped a ton of points into it. Additionally, the durability of Tech Armor lets you wade into a fair amount of fire to res a teammate, and Throw slaps a Guardian's shield out of the way better than anything else I've found (although I haven't gotten the Drellguard yet) and can stagger an Atlas long enough to help a teammate work it over in CQB.

I don't personally care for the Turian Sentinel as much (the inability to roll makes me feel gimped), but it's a very solid contributor in the right hands. The chain Overload ability is a beast. Warp provides good synergy with the other biotic classes just like the Human Sentinel. My biggest gripe is that, other than sniping through the viewport, there's not a reliable way to take down an approaching Guardian. I've taken them down by wrapping a Warp around the shield, but it takes a couple of hits and can be difficult if you've got several together or a number of other enemies approaching at the same time.

[ndw542]

Nyadnar17 wrote...

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

I guess I dont understand the fuss, I provide good support and regularly come in 1 or 2 with a Human sentinal on Silver (havent played much gold yet with the Sent).

Warp+ throw detonates and if you max it properly will do significant damage, it also has great synergy with the other caster classes. Tech armor can get yourself or team members out of a sticky jam.

Idk...guess I just disagree

All of the people I have seen that still like Sentinel either are using a turian or playing on Bronze. You are the first Silver playing, Human Sentinel player I have seen that likes the class. Please post your build and weapon loadout. I really want to have fun with the Sentinel and I love to see something that works!

I've played through silver several times with the Human Sentinel.  It's actually been my favorite class on silver so far.  That said, I haven't played through silver with my Human Vanguard yet, and I suspect that might have a bearing on my preference.

Edit:  If anyone cares enough to ask, I'll post my build/loadout later.  Not home at the moment, and I can't remember off-hand which evolutions I chose.

Modifié par ndw542, 22 février 2012 - 09:47 .

[Nyadnar17]

ndw542 please post your build. I think I have the male Sentinel unlocked and I would like to spec him with something that is more effective than my gimped female Sentinel.

[ndw542]

I don't believe the male Sentinel will be unlocked until the retail release. Until then I believe it's limited to female Human and Turian.

[The Makatak]

Nyadnar17 wrote...

Cloaking_Thane wrote...

I guess I dont understand the fuss, I provide good support and regularly come in 1 or 2 with a Human sentinal on Silver (havent played much gold yet with the Sent).

Warp+ throw detonates and if you max it properly will do significant damage, it also has great synergy with the other caster classes. Tech armor can get yourself or team members out of a sticky jam.

Idk...guess I just disagree

All of the people I have seen that still like Sentinel either are using a turian or playing on Bronze. You are the first Silver playing, Human Sentinel player I have seen that likes the class. Please post your build and weapon loadout. I really want to have fun with the Sentinel and I love to see something that works!

Thank god, someone who finally isn't vomiting from the mouth, "I don't understand how this class can work/does work, and therefore it sucks."

[Hiero Glyph]

Thomas_R_Roy wrote...

The Sentinel is the most versatile class. You have the option to be a tank, be the artillery, close combat, ranged combat, etc. But you have to spec your character correctly for your role, and you need to understand the combo explosions and resistances properly if you want to be the most effective.

Interesting then as I would much rather have or play an Asari Adept over a Human Sentinel.  Statis is 1,000x better than Tech Armor, especially on Gold, and the Warp+Throw Combo is the same for both except the Asari passives are much better and there is no cooldown penalty.  This also does not include the fact that Stasis can also cause a biotic explosion, something that Tech Armor cannot.  Claiming that the Senitnel is the most versatile class is simply wrong as the Asari Adept has it beat without question.

As for the Turian, at least the higher base health and shields allow the Tech Armor's damage reduction to be more useful.  The inclusion of Overload, mostly, and Warp makes him viable in numerous situations as well.  The Tech Armor's detonation damage is laughable as is the radius though and the cooldown penalty forces the tank aspect as playing a caster or CQC-build is simply gimped.  I have learned to make this class work but so far the Turian is the only race even close to a Sentinel character while the Human is a weak Adept with Tech Armor and no tech abilities.

[Shinochan]

My main reason for playing Sentinel (now 19) was because that was the starter class which had Throw. Coming from an Adept ME1+2 background, I grew fond of ragdolling enemies across the map. I came into the class with little expectations and it turned out to be fun.

I like TA since it offers quite a lot more survivability for my playstyle, especially in Silver, and I don't find it a gimp as many have suggested. I knew everything was not going to translate as well as my expectations from ME2 to ME3 just like ME1 to ME2. A good example would be Adept, going from full-time caster to half when they added global cooldowns.

However, when I unlocked Asari Adept (now 18) and have a blast helping out my team with Stasis. Sadly, I don't use throw much anymore. Sure I don't get #1 anymore nor as many kills but it's fun. Just wanted to add my experience.

[thergonomic]

Well guys we can lament the demise of the Sentinel as much as we want, but since Bioware hasn't been known for listening it's fans very often (except in case of bugs) we'll just have to find a new way of playing Sentinel (which I won't do) or just switch classes (which I did to Vanguard.)
I got to say the Vanguard does make me feel atleast partly as badass as the Sentinel did in ME2 thanks to the new Nove ability. Just my two cents.

PS But if Bioware does the unbelievable and listens to the Sentinel players and changes the Tech Armor I'll be happy to join you guys again as a tank.
(And lets be honest we arent even a 1/6 of the player base so the probability that they'd change it is just nonexistent.)

[humes spork]

Scary Shepard wrote...

I've seen a lot on Sentinels who prefer to go for heavier weapons, which I've never really tried since I find thow/warp too useful. I imagine it's quite viable as a damage sponge if the right tech armour path is chosen.

Yeah, I did that in the demo -- maxed-tankiness tech armor and fitness, with a revenant -- and it's pretty effective in an organized group. You're knocking down defenses and soaking damage, and your teammates are finishing enemies off. As it is, you're forced to choose between playing caster and neglecting tech armor, or going all-out tank. I suppose you could go for a very low-weight loadout and evolve the "agility" powers in tech armor and get the better of both worlds, but it just seems more effective doing one or the other.

[nukular power]

IDK, they massively buffed Tech Armor's damage from the demo. Since I went throw-spam single target max force, I use it as my AOE attack when I need to.

I do miss the stun though :/