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[Blacklash93]

Something that has been interesting me lately is how dragons are going to fit into the overall picture of the series.

We do know for certain that there is more to them than we know of currently and that there will be an upcoming revelation about them in the new comic series, The Silent Grove, as per this quote from Gaider:

The 'Dragon Age' miniseries follows Alistair of
'Dragon Age: Origins' and Isabela and Varric of 'Dragon Age II,' Gaider
told CBR. "The three of them have traveled to Antiva, an exotic land of
assassins, to chase a secret from Alistair's past that will draw all
three of them into danger -- and also reveal a surprising truth about
the nature of dragons in Thedas.

I also have some reassurance from Laidlaw of this when I recently asked him about dragons on twtter:


@Mike_Laidlaw I love the dragons of Dragon Age, but they don't seem to do much. When will we learn more about them? Is there more to them?

@Blacklash93 Why yes! Perhaps consider checking out the comics, or just stay tuned to the games.

Also there was a fan-interview over twitter at a Comic-con where Mike said, to paraphrase, "Dragons are coming back from the brink of extinction faster than you'd naturally expect" and that dragons would be "an interesting part of the story." He also said they'd grow both in prominence and in importance as the "Dragon Age" timeline continues and again mentions "revelations".
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So my questions to you guys are... What do you think these revelations about dragons will be? How do you think they will fit into the overall series? What predictions do you think you can make based on current lore?

Modifié par Blacklash93, 19 février 2012 - 02:51 .

[SkittlesKat96]

Maybe the Tevinters are involved with the Dragons being brought back?

There was something in DA:O that suggested this/gave credence to this but unfortunately I've forgotten what it was. :'(

EDIT: I actually think that the Tevinter Imperium has something to do with the Maker. Just judging by what the statue in the Mage Origin in DA:O says and what Sandal says in DA 2. But I'm not too sure about that.

I also think Maric might be apart of Orlais now but again I kind of doubt it (David Gaider seemed pretty final when he said Maric died at sea, and its probably better that way I guess)

Modifié par SkittlesKat96, 19 février 2012 - 10:13 .

[whykikyouwhy]

Touching a bit upon what SkittlesKat96 said, the Tevinter Imperium could be involved with the influx of dragons/dragon sightings.

All speculation of course, but ... we have reason to believe that Tevinter still worships the Old Gods, or at least had not vanquished all worship of them (if memory serves). The Old Gods took the form of dragons - not that necessarily were/are dragons, but they could be just taking their form in order to present themselves to mortals as a creature of immense power (thus inspiring fear and respect). Perhaps their true "god" form is something that cannot be comprehended by the mortal mind. And we know that Archdemons are corrupted Old Gods - that the Old God!dragons are sought out and then tainted.

So what if, in the grand scheme of what-if's, the Imperium is trying to find and resurrect (awaken) the Old Gods before they become tainted? What if they are trying to find a way to manipulate and control their power? (assuming of course, that they are not imprisoned in the manner spoken of by the Chantry) And maybe the new method to do that (since invading a certain City didn't go so well) is to breed dragons, or to seek the older ones out from their hidden lairs. That perhaps using dragons to locate other "godly" dragons is their divining rod of sorts, without putting anyone at risk of being corrupted, and thus having a darkspawn horde rummaging in the underground.

Of course, disclaimer again, this is all speculative fluff on my part. I'm sure I've missed a slew of codex entries or character origins that may refute all or part of that, or maybe I've missed something on the nature of dragons themselves. But if I had to guess on the "surprising truth about the nature of dragons in Thedas," I'd have to say that my suspicions are with the Imperium and the Old Gods.

But then, I haven't had my morning coffee yet.

[Blacklash93]

My prediction for the reveal in the upcoming comic is that we will discover a connection between dragons and the Witches of the Wilds. The Witches are the only other major lore, besides dragons, we know the comic is going to delve into. Who's to say there's no relation? We even have a concept image of a dragon titled "Flemeth" on Darkhorse's Facebook page.

Remember, this comic is supposed to reveal something about the inherent nature of dragons. Bringing something like Imperium breeding grounds into the mix only serves to reveal that they're being manipulated and tells nothing about their nature.

[whykikyouwhy]

I didn't see where the images were tagged or titled "Flemeth" but they do look a lot like the Flemeth statue available on both the Bioware and Dark Horse Comics/TFAW stores. So maybe there's more than one shapeshifter!dragon lurking about.

As for Tevinter's involvement with dragons and potentially breeding them...as I said, that was speculation. And while the action of forced dragon breeding itself may not say much about the nature of dragons, why or how that plan is being undertaken may reveal something.

But I guess we'll see the first clues tomorrow. It should prove interesting, whatever the case.

Modifié par whykikyouwhy, 20 février 2012 - 02:32 .

[Blacklash93]

whykikyouwhy wrote...

I didn't see where the images were tagged or titled "Flemeth" but they do look a lot like the Flemeth statue available on both the Bioware and Dark Horse Comics/TFAW stores. So maybe there's more than one shapeshifter!dragon lurking about.

As for Tevinter's involvement with dragons and potentially breeding them...as I said, that was speculation. And while the action of forced dragon breeding itself may not say much about the nature of dragons, why or how that plan is being undertaken may reveal something.

But I guess we'll see the first clues tomorrow. It should prove interesting, whatever the case.

I never said you were wrong, I just meant whatever revelation we're going to get from the comic series probably won't have to do with the Tevinters or systematic dragon-breeding as there's no hint of that yet.

And clues tommorow? I thought the comic didn't launch until the 22nd. Or is this something else?

Edit: Flemeth pic. Just hold the cursor over the pic for a second.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 20 février 2012 - 02:51 .

[whykikyouwhy]

Oh, I'm clearly a few days in the future. It happens sometimes.

[Rifneno]

*shakes fist* Damn you, Alduin! Get back to your own game!

[Blacklash93]

Rifneno wrote...

*shakes fist* Damn you, Alduin! Get back to your own game!

It is called Dragon Age. Dragons having a big part in the story isn't really a stretch nor is it copying a certain other game.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 21 février 2012 - 11:05 .

[Rifneno]

Blacklash93 wrote...

It is called Dragon Age. Dragons having a big part in the story isn't really a stretch nor is it copying a certain other game.

That would be a good point if I said anything like that.

[Huntress]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Something that has been interesting me lately is how dragons are going to fit into the overall picture of the series.

We do know for certain that there is more to them than we know of currently and that there will be an upcoming revelation about them in the new comic series, The Silent Grove, as per this quote from Gaider:

The 'Dragon Age' miniseries follows Alistair of
'Dragon Age: Origins' and Isabela and Varric of 'Dragon Age II,' Gaider
told CBR. "The three of them have traveled to Antiva, an exotic land of
assassins, to chase a secret from Alistair's past that will draw all
three of them into danger -- and also reveal a surprising truth about
the nature of dragons in Thedas.

I also have some reassurance from Laidlaw of this when I recently asked him about dragons on twtter:


[/s]@Mike_Laidlaw I love the dragons of Dragon Age, but they don't seem to do much. When will we learn more about them? Is there more to them?

[s]@Blacklash93 Why yes! Perhaps consider checking out the comics, or just stay tuned to the games.

Also there was a fan-interview over twitter at a Comic-con where Mike said, to paraphrase, "Dragons are coming back from the brink of extinction faster than you'd naturally expect" and that dragons would be "an interesting part of the story." He also said they'd grow both in prominence and in importance as the "Dragon Age" timeline continues and again mentions "revelations".
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So my questions to you guys are... What do you think these revelations about dragons will be? How do you think they will fit into the overall series? What predictions do you think you can make based on current lore?

Answer number 1: Someone found a mirror similar to the dalish elves but not Tainted/corrupted, and is able to use it! he/she has been using it way before Morrigans could and thru it is bringing OLD dragons back!
The Mirror is hidden in Dragons peak!

Answer number2: Maybe one of this dragons can speak and will explain that the tevinter mages of old that used the mirror to get to the fade did that by themself and no dragon was involved and they are innocent of all charges!

Answer number 3: I can see a reason for Flemeth to stop cloning herself, now she has the chance to talk to real dragons! maybe some are  old friends? I just hope this clones will take turn to talk.. think... if every clone start tlaking in riddles...


Serious:

Answer1: If I remember correctly many thought Flemeth made the architect and need it the warden to kill a dragon gone bad.. I don't think flemeth has anything to do with dragons coming back I do think someone or "something" is bringing them back remeber the dragon cult in origens? who is to say that only one small group survive the ages? not me! I think this cult is very strong somewere also. Morrigan spoke of Old magic being used and protected from everyone also.

Answer2: I am not sure is so little known about dragons and Flemth is not sharing any info.. She probably want to know aswell!  IF she has plans for the world like she hinted in DAO then this dragons might interfere with her plans.

Answer3: A battle of new and old magic trying to get a foot hold in the world!  why? because Thedas is about magic and their people and because I think is kinda cool!

I just remember the dalish uses some of the old magic, Circle mages only uses few the most powerful magic found today is blood magic that come from demons but maybe there is an actual  magic spell that can counter it? I don't know i still can swallow a bard writing a spell for blood magic.. sorry bioware writers!

Modifié par Huntress, 22 février 2012 - 12:06 .

[Blacklash93]

Rifneno wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

It is called Dragon Age. Dragons having a big part in the story isn't really a stretch nor is it copying a certain other game.

That would be a good point if I said anything like that.

Read it wrong, then. Sorry.

 I don't know i still can swallow a bard writing a spell for blood magic.. sorry bioware writers!

It was actually written by a Tevinter researcher according to the codex. Wynne got her facts mixed up, the old crone.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 22 février 2012 - 01:35 .

[Blacklash93]

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CB) So, with there being Dragons in Thedas, is there any chance we’ll get to see some Old Gods in action? If so, doesn’t that mean that there will be some blight inspired Dark Spawn running around?

DG) There's a difference between dragons, Old Gods and the Archdemons (which are Old Gods that have been corrupted by the blight). You're talking three different levels of creatures, there. All I can say is that dragons play an important role in Thedas beyond simply being the scary flying creatures that try to bite your head off, and there's some meat there for a nice storyline.
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I wonder what he means by "three different levels of creatures". Are they simply different levels of dragons? Or are they different entites entirely (Old Gods and Archdemons definitely aren't), but connected somehow?

Anyway, it's nice to hear that dragons will play an important role in the story.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 22 février 2012 - 08:04 .