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[warriorN7]

shepard hasn't been promoted because you have to save humanity at least three times before the alliance will even consider it

[imnar]

i always thought that commander shepard should have gotten promoted to capt. when capt. anderson stepped down. similar to how capt. pike stepped down to allow kirk to become capt.

[mereck7980]

I forgot about the Lt. Commander entry in the Codex. I suppose we could just assume that Shepard got promoted to full Commander at the end of ME1, but that still doesn't answer the question of who the ranking officer on the Normandy would be if Kadian is the VS.

According to game lore doesn't an Alliance Major outrank an Alliance Commander? For the sake of continuity and narrative I understand why Shepard would be in charge. I just wonder if the game will try and explain it in some way?

Modifié par mereck7980, 19 février 2012 - 04:29 .

[Oron345]

I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favourite rank in the Alliance.

[Heather Cline]

"I'm Commander Shepard and I want a damned promotion. I've earned it!"

[izmirtheastarach]

If Shepard is not a Spectre anymore, then Kaidan definitely outranks him.

[Biotic Sage]

Because he is commanding the Reapers to back the **** off.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 19 février 2012 - 04:36 .

[imnar]

Hello Man wrote...

imnar wrote...

i always thought that commander shepard should have gotten promoted to capt. when capt. anderson stepped down. similar to how capt. pike stepped down to allow kirk to become capt.

The whole Spectre situation overruled that. He was acting Captain.

i agree, but i just got through playing me1 again, i selected anderson to lead the council. he is no longer capt. of the normandy. therefore, acting capt. shepard should be the one that gets promoted to capt. i spent the entire game making sure everyone knew i was still alliance military 1st and foremost. heck, he is the capt. of the normandy in me2 for the first 5 minutes of the game...

Modifié par imnar, 19 février 2012 - 04:34 .

[ExplosiveMage]

Ive always in my head thought of it as:
- Shepard was a Lt. Commander in ME1 - I think this is established somewhere but cant remember where
After the battle of the Citadel Shepard is promoted to Staff Comander - still referred to as Commander by all but recognizes his service. If Ashley is alive in the playthrough, then Shep still out ranks her.
I have no idea how they will explain (if at all, but I have to believe they will at some point as Kaidan and Shepard but heads about something) who is in command.
I sure as **** hope that if Shepard survives ME3, he gets promoted to something above commander.
*As an aside, I would not be surprised in the least if future mass effect games mention Shepard getting promoted to Admiral or something like that

[Heather Cline]

Hello Man that isn't always true. There are times when a higher ranked person will come in and throw their rank around because they can. Even if there is someone of lower rank already in command of the situation/ship or whatever have you. It's been displayed in many works of science fiction both on tv and in books as well. Yeah sure Alenko or Ash would work with Shepard but seriously putting someone who is of higher rank at the beck and call of a lower ranked person never would fly in the real military. My brother is in the military and I asked him about that once. He said that if he was in charge and someone of higher rank was with him that person would be in charge because of rank and it wouldn't matter if he had been in charge before. The higher ranked person is always in charge. Sure they may defer to the person who has been there the longest to get caught up and to run things for them until stuff is smoothed out but in the end, the higher ranked person is always the one in charge.

No offense, just have a military sibling and thought I'd throw that out there for you to chew on.

[warriorN7]

mereck7980 wrote...

I forgot about the Lt. Commander entry in the Codex. I suppose we could just assume that Shepard got promoted to full Commander at the end of ME1, but that still doesn't answer the question of who the ranking officer on the Normandy would be if Kadian is the VS.

According to game lore doesn't an Alliance Major outrank an Alliance Commander? For the sake of continuity and narrative I understand why Shepard would be in charge. I just wonder if the game will try and explain it in some way?

sheps  also a specter dosent that make the rank kind of pointless and the normandy is still his ship

[Heather Cline]

Yeah I know but the fact still remains even if the person doesn't throw their rank around, the person with the higher rank is still in charge. It's always a fact and always happens. Even a Captain of a space ship like in Star Trek though in charge of his own ship and crew would not be in charge of the mission if a Admiral was on board and in charge of the mission. This is because the Admiral has higher rank and can over ride any command given by said Captain.

Thus why the higher ranked person always is in command. Sucks but it's true.

[Jackal7713]

OMG are people still questioning the command of the Normandy? ITS SHEPPARD"S SHIP!

Nuf said.

[Heather Cline]

Jackal actually we are having a mature discussion on this subject. I do see your point that it is Shepard's ship but in the demo Shepard stated that they grounded her/him and took away her/his ship. Going off of this we are not sure who is in command of the Normandy anymore even though Shepard does get re-instatment to Cmdr it still is up in the air.

[Fluwm]

Hm... I don't really understand military ranks, but isn't Shepherd still being a Commander just WRONG, beyond the simple fact of, "she deserves better!"?

In ME1 she was a commander. Or a Lt.Commander. Either way, she can't still be a Commander because she DIED in ME2.

And when you die, you get a two-rank promotion, right?

So... whatever's after commander is the lowest rank she could possibly have.

[mereck7980]

@Jackal7713 It is a given that Shepard will be giving the orders. The game wouldn't really work if Ash or Kadian was the CO. This discussion is really more about how BW will square the rank issue in the game's story.

I hope that they spend about 5 seconds joking about it or making a small reference to the fact that Shepard is in charge even though Kadian outranks him. That's really it. No need to get mad.

[izmirtheastarach]

Yeah, it seems logical that Shep would have been promoted posthumously.