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#26
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How long had he been in Bioware?

I keep thinking he worked on Baldur's Gate too...

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 Predictable, all the creative minds leave before they are forced out in embarrassment.  :bandit:

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fivefingaslap18 wrote...

That's what they all say. Book career, child rearing, yada, yada, yada.


Ah yes, the statement made by the person himself is far less likely than some half-baked conspiracy theory.

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Lunatic-LMD wrote...

How long had he been in Bioware?

I keep thinking he worked on Baldur's Gate too...

Drew wrote on of the Baldur's Gate novelisations.  He didn't work for BioWare yet.

The Baldur's Gate novelisations were terrible.

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AeonFrog wrote...

Drew had nothing to do w/ ME3.


He did write the much of the story of Mass effect.

They planned out the trilogy before it got to game form ya know

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Gabey5 wrote...

AeonFrog wrote...

Drew had nothing to do w/ ME3.


He did write the much of the story of Mass effect.

They planned out the trilogy before it got to game form ya know

Someone at BioWare said they're just making it up as they go. They planned a very general storyline but the majority of the plot in ME3 was probably not written in advance.

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shepard1038 wrote...

May the conspiracies theories begin.Image IPB


Believe me when I say that if this was posted in the Dragon Age II forums every third post would be an assumption, conspiracy theory or an insult to Chris Priestly. :pinched:

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Drew wrote/planned out the original script for the entire trilogy IIRC, but he never actually did work on ME3 since he was already involved with TOR.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 19 février 2012 - 10:07 .


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Drew ceased his work with the ME franchise half way through ME2 and it turned out absolutely amazing.....besides from what I read of the leaked ME3 script this game will be beyond absolutely amazing in terms of story....I'm talking about writing of such infinite quality that Drew could have probably never dreamed of.

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Zanallen wrote...

neubourn wrote...

NY ASS4551N wrote...

If he's the writer responsible for the Old Republic, then good riddance. The writers of the Old Republic totally ruined the KOTOR storyline, especially with what they did with Revan.


He's also responsible for setting up the lore in ME1, so might want to rethink that "good riddance" part.

He also pretty much wrote Revan and most of the dialogue for KOTOR.

He didn't work on Knights of the Old Republic.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Zanallen wrote...

neubourn wrote...

NY ASS4551N wrote...

If he's the writer responsible for the Old Republic, then good riddance. The writers of the Old Republic totally ruined the KOTOR storyline, especially with what they did with Revan.


He's also responsible for setting up the lore in ME1, so might want to rethink that "good riddance" part.

He also pretty much wrote Revan and most of the dialogue for KOTOR.

He didn't work on Knights of the Old Republic.


Yes he didImage IPB

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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 19 février 2012 - 09:26 .


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Darth_Trethon wrote...

Drew ceased his work with the ME franchise half way through ME2 and it turned out absolutely amazing.....besides from what I read of the leaked ME3 script this game will be beyond absolutely amazing in terms of story....I'm talking about writing of such infinite quality that Drew could have probably never dreamed of.




The wording alone hurts the believability of your post.

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MAZ77 wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Drew ceased his work with the ME franchise half way through ME2 and it turned out absolutely amazing.....besides from what I read of the leaked ME3 script this game will be beyond absolutely amazing in terms of story....I'm talking about writing of such infinite quality that Drew could have probably never dreamed of.




The wording alone hurts the believability of your post.




Not interested in whether you believe me....just saying things the way they are.

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

MAZ77 wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Drew ceased his work with the ME franchise half way through ME2 and it turned out absolutely amazing.....besides from what I read of the leaked ME3 script this game will be beyond absolutely amazing in terms of story....I'm talking about writing of such infinite quality that Drew could have probably never dreamed of.




The wording alone hurts the believability of your post.




Not interested in whether you believe me....just saying things the way they are.




You sound like Bioware marketing, you should rephrase it, so that people can take you (more) seriously.

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Old news.. There's already a thread for this...

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I think Drew is a good writer. He did ME 1 and the lore, and he wrote the actually good ME books. The newer one that has tons of lore errors is the one not written by him.

Gameplay systems which is probably what some peoples issue with ME 2 is should probably be directed at someone other then the writer. The fact he didnt do ME3 is actually troubling to me, history has shown consistently when the original creator is removed from something it starts getting bad since the new writer usually has no idea what they are writing about.

The problem with his Star Wars work is he probaly isnt a huge Star Wars nerd, but he did know his Mass Effect, being you know, the head writer of most all of the lore.

Modifié par LenaMarie, 19 février 2012 - 01:18 .


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LenaMarie wrote...

I think Drew is a good writer. He did ME 1 and the lore, and he wrote the actually good ME books. The newer one that has tons of lore errors is the one not written by him.

Gameplay systems which is probably what some peoples issue with ME 2 is should probably be directed at someone other then the writer. The fact he didnt do ME3 is actually troubling to me, history has shown consistently when the original creator is removed from something it starts getting bad since the new writer usually has no idea what they are writing about.

The problem with his Star Wars work is he probaly isnt a huge Star Wars nerd, but he did know his Mass Effect, being you know, the head writer of most all of the lore.


The writer that took over(mac-walters) was co-lead in ME1 and took over as lead half way through ME2 when drew went away so the story quality is quite safe....there's no new writer here. Plus from the leaked script ME3's story and writing is far better than ME1 and ME2.

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LenaMarie wrote...

 He did ME 1 and the lore...


It's not like he was the only person writing for ME1.  While he definitely had a large contribution to the development of the setting, he didn't do it all singlehandedly, and people don't give nearly enough credit to the other writers (Chris L'Etoile, for instance, also had a lot to do with developing the background stuff).  Not to mention that the high-level plot for the game isn't all the Lead Writer's work either.

ETA: It should also be mentioned that ideas often start with the artists too.

Modifié par didymos1120, 19 février 2012 - 01:26 .


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Darth_Trethon wrote...

LenaMarie wrote...

I think Drew is a good writer. He did ME 1 and the lore, and he wrote the actually good ME books. The newer one that has tons of lore errors is the one not written by him.

Gameplay systems which is probably what some peoples issue with ME 2 is should probably be directed at someone other then the writer. The fact he didnt do ME3 is actually troubling to me, history has shown consistently when the original creator is removed from something it starts getting bad since the new writer usually has no idea what they are writing about.

The problem with his Star Wars work is he probaly isnt a huge Star Wars nerd, but he did know his Mass Effect, being you know, the head writer of most all of the lore.


The writer that took over(mac-walters) was co-lead in ME1 and took over as lead half way through ME2 when drew went away so the story quality is quite safe....there's no new writer here. Plus from the leaked script ME3's story and writing is far better than ME1 and ME2.


Your probaly one of the only people I've seen even on BSN claiming the leaked script was good, you know this right? Most everytime I've seen it mentioned I've seen people complaining about how bad it was and even Bioware agreeing with people and stating they took fans feedback about the leaked script to fix up things.

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I've seen clueless people claim they read it and that it was bad but what they said contradicted the script completely......things like player choices not being relevant and so on...

Made me wonder whether they ever even learned how to read let alone take them seriously. If you take the time to read the bloody thing you'll see imported choices very much matter and that it's quite amazing....otherwise that's what you get for listening to others instead of seeing for yourself. Other complaints were about lines taken out of context.....the script accounts for all possible scenarios and it sounded like some people just read one and started going crazy about an even that likely won't even happen to them.

BioWare just said it was an old version of the script that had undergone changes and was still being worked on. As for taking reactions into considerations.....sure, how hard is it to impress people who couldn't even understand the script when what they whine about doesn't happen? They'll all be like: "Ooooo BioWare listened to us"....when in fact the perceived changes were there all along, they just didn't get it.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 19 février 2012 - 01:42 .


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Turryn wrote...

Frankly, everyone involved in writing SWTOR should be fired. =/

Why on earth would they do that? SWTOR is a great game.

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NY ASS4551N wrote...

If he's the writer responsible for the Old Republic, then good riddance. The writers of the Old Republic totally ruined the KOTOR storyline, especially with what they did with Revan.


Care to explain please? I hope they have not revealed his or her face, i prefer Revan ambiguous as possible.

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

I've seen clueless people claim they read it and that it was bad but what they said contradicted the script completely......things like player choices not being relevant and so on...

Made me wonder whether they ever even learned how to read let alone take them seriously. If you take the time to read the bloody thing you'll see imported choices very much matter and that it's quite amazing....otherwise that's what you get for listening to others instead of seeing for yourself. Other complaints were about lines taken out of context.....the script accounts for all possible scenarios and it sounded like some people just read one and started going crazy about an even that likely won't even happen to them.

BioWare just said it was an old version of the script that had undergone changes and was still being worked on. As for taking reactions into considerations.....sure, how hard is it to impress people who couldn't even understand the script when what they whine about doesn't happen? They'll all be like: "Ooooo BioWare listened to us"....when in fact the perceived changes were there all along, they just didn't get it.


I've not read the script and I never will due to actually caring about not spoiling myself for ME 3, but regardless I think this is probaly more a matter of opinion. Some peoeple actually find the scripts in the big, summer blockbuster movies to be good and probaly better then your classic movies that have actually won awards for their writing, this might just be one of those things that are subjective.

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Naughty Bear wrote...

NY ASS4551N wrote...

If he's the writer responsible for the Old Republic, then good riddance. The writers of the Old Republic totally ruined the KOTOR storyline, especially with what they did with Revan.


Care to explain please? I hope they have not revealed his or her face, i prefer Revan ambiguous as possible.


There was a description of his face in the novel and yes revan is canonically a male while the exile is a female.....but the way they hadnled his fate was just lame.....if you haven't read it don't....and this from a book named Revan by the author who initially wrote Revan in KotOR.....I sudder to think how much his story must suck in TOR.