Shepards spectre status
#1
Posté 19 février 2012 - 02:02
#2
Posté 19 février 2012 - 02:05
Modifié par AndersL, 19 février 2012 - 02:06 .
#3
Posté 19 février 2012 - 03:02
#4
Posté 19 février 2012 - 03:08
#5
Posté 19 février 2012 - 03:10
JunMadine wrote...
I think that the demo only reflects a new player's perspective. I am sure any imports will show differences from the start.
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Correct.
#6
Posté 19 février 2012 - 03:35
#7
Posté 19 février 2012 - 04:00
jedierick wrote...
I was wondering about this as well, Anderson says "You WERE a council Spectre" when they were discussing him going to the council. Past tense. Did he get his status stripped because of what he did in Arrival, something else we will no doubt not understand with the exclusion of Shepard's trial
Unless I missunderstood, in the demo audio files there´s also this line in present tense.
#8
Posté 19 février 2012 - 06:20
#9
Posté 19 février 2012 - 06:27
@Anders
You can kill the council and still get spectre status, Anderson needs to be councilor though.
#10
Posté 19 février 2012 - 07:01
#11
Posté 19 février 2012 - 09:20
#12
Posté 19 février 2012 - 09:25
schemata wrote...
The entire Spectre Role seems really diminished from what I can tell. It was a big thing in me1, but throughout the series I felt your still a subordinate to the Alliance. Kind of made me wonder how spectres ever got anything done, or how that position could be viewed as it does, (left hand of the council, or was it right?) So for the alliance to be able to ground shepard- if you were reinstated back in me2; its kinda like bioware has to give on something. Either being a spectre doesn't mean anything, because there still subordinate to whatever organization they came from; and the buildup of the position in Me1 was; all crap. Or, they retcon it in, that you were never reinstated.
Shepard wasn't subordinate to the Alliance at all after being inducted to the Spectres; he was merely provided a ship, subordinates, and resources by them. The Alliance was only able to ground Shepard in ME1 because the Council agreed with the motion, and it's likely the same in ME3 because the Council won't want to be associated with the eradication of a Batarian colony system. For the most part, though, Shepard does things no soldier would really be able to get away with all throughout both games, whether officially a Spectre at the time or not.
#13
Posté 19 février 2012 - 09:40
#14
Posté 19 février 2012 - 10:05
schemata wrote...
The entire Spectre Role seems really diminished from what I can tell. It was a big thing in me1, but throughout the series I felt your still a subordinate to the Alliance. Kind of made me wonder how spectres ever got anything done, or how that position could be viewed as it does, (left hand of the council, or was it right?) So for the alliance to be able to ground shepard- if you were reinstated back in me2; its kinda like bioware has to give on something. Either being a spectre doesn't mean anything, because there still subordinate to whatever organization they came from; and the buildup of the position in Me1 was; all crap. Or, they retcon it in, that you were never reinstated.
You have to remember Shepard is the FIRST HUMAN Spectre, its not so much that the Alliance controls him its that the Alliance wants him too put on a jolly good show.
#15
Posté 19 février 2012 - 10:45
Foxtrot_212 wrote...
schemata wrote...
The entire Spectre Role seems really diminished from what I can tell. It was a big thing in me1, but throughout the series I felt your still a subordinate to the Alliance. Kind of made me wonder how spectres ever got anything done, or how that position could be viewed as it does, (left hand of the council, or was it right?) So for the alliance to be able to ground shepard- if you were reinstated back in me2; its kinda like bioware has to give on something. Either being a spectre doesn't mean anything, because there still subordinate to whatever organization they came from; and the buildup of the position in Me1 was; all crap. Or, they retcon it in, that you were never reinstated.
You have to remember Shepard is the FIRST HUMAN Spectre, its not so much that the Alliance controls him its that the Alliance wants him too put on a jolly good show.
Yes they made this point alot, Most saw it has a ploy for humans being good pets where has the real truth is shepard is a damn fine solider
#16
Posté 19 février 2012 - 11:07
#17
Posté 19 février 2012 - 11:11
Zing Freelancer wrote...
Shepard just massacred 300.000 batarians and destroyed a mass relay, consider his specter status revoked.
Not quite there amigo.
#18
Posté 19 février 2012 - 11:19
#19
Posté 19 février 2012 - 11:20
SonicPersuasion wrote...
Ashley / Kaiden are also Spectres. This could potentially play some role in the story.
They become spectres middle of ME3, not initially. Its not as big of deal as you may think either.
#20
Posté 19 février 2012 - 11:34
G3rman wrote...
SonicPersuasion wrote...
Ashley / Kaiden are also Spectres. This could potentially play some role in the story.
They become spectres middle of ME3, not initially. Its not as big of deal as you may think either.
And in the begining Ashley is plastered with Spectre symbols and DEFINETLY out of Uniform.... Unless Alliance Dress code for females includes going to Miranda school for Mirandifcation
Modifié par Foxtrot_212, 19 février 2012 - 11:34 .
#21
Posté 19 février 2012 - 11:34
G3rman wrote...
SonicPersuasion wrote...
Ashley / Kaiden are also Spectres. This could potentially play some role in the story.
They become spectres middle of ME3, not initially. Its not as big of deal as you may think either.
Could you imagine if we had to take orders from Ashley/Kaiden at some point? That's some buuuuuuullll!!!!!!
#22
Posté 19 février 2012 - 11:48
sonsofanarchy10 wrote...
G3rman wrote...
SonicPersuasion wrote...
Ashley / Kaiden are also Spectres. This could potentially play some role in the story.
They become spectres middle of ME3, not initially. Its not as big of deal as you may think either.
Could you imagine if we had to take orders from Ashley/Kaiden at some point? That's some buuuuuuullll!!!!!!
Not on my ship.
#23
Posté 19 février 2012 - 11:53
Crawlingkingsnake wrote...
sonsofanarchy10 wrote...
G3rman wrote...
SonicPersuasion wrote...
Ashley / Kaiden are also Spectres. This could potentially play some role in the story.
They become spectres middle of ME3, not initially. Its not as big of deal as you may think either.
Could you imagine if we had to take orders from Ashley/Kaiden at some point? That's some buuuuuuullll!!!!!!
Not on my ship.
Damn straight!!! You plottin' on me!!!? Get that a** off my ship!
#24
Posté 19 février 2012 - 11:55
Foxtrot_212 wrote...
G3rman wrote...
SonicPersuasion wrote...
Ashley / Kaiden are also Spectres. This could potentially play some role in the story.
They become spectres middle of ME3, not initially. Its not as big of deal as you may think either.
And in the begining Ashley is plastered with Spectre symbols and DEFINETLY out of Uniform.... Unless Alliance Dress code for females includes going to Miranda school for Mirandifcation
S1? I'm pretty sure that signifies her place on the Normandy, not Spectre. It might have been removed in latest models too, I haven't checked.
But she is most definitely not a spectre at the start, neither is Kaidan.
I'm not about to get into another fight about her uniform either.
#25
Posté 20 février 2012 - 12:26
sonsofanarchy10 wrote...
Crawlingkingsnake wrote...
sonsofanarchy10 wrote...
G3rman wrote...
SonicPersuasion wrote...
Ashley / Kaiden are also Spectres. This could potentially play some role in the story.
They become spectres middle of ME3, not initially. Its not as big of deal as you may think either.
Could you imagine if we had to take orders from Ashley/Kaiden at some point? That's some buuuuuuullll!!!!!!
Not on my ship.
Damn straight!!! You plottin' on me!!!? Get that a** off my ship!
Then you throw Ash/Kaiden out the airlock and the council sends a spectre after you. It's SHEPCEPTION





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