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[Femlob]

Yuoaman wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

I have not seen proof that this guy has played the full game anywhere in this thread. He also seems to know more about the underlying mechanics then someone who has just played the game.

Still not sure if I believe everything he says.

He's revealed information a while back that we've only learned recently, so I trust some of what he says.

Nothing I've read so far sounds utterly outrageous (well, from a technical perspective, anyway<_<), so I'm willing to extend the benefit of the doubt here.

[Yuoaman]

Naughty Bear wrote...

I'm possibly jumping the gun here and over exaggerating, but so this means we have to play multiplayer to even get the best ending? I'm not sure if i read all the comments and the post right.

No, you can still get the best endings by just playing single-player, you'll just have to do all of the sidequests and such.

[Femlob]

Naughty Bear wrote...

I'm possibly jumping the gun here and over exaggerating, but so this means we have to play multiplayer to even get the best ending? I'm not sure if i read all the comments and the post right.

Not nescessarily. Nobody knows for sure, really.

[izmirtheastarach]

Yuoaman wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

I have not seen proof that this guy has played the full game anywhere in this thread. He also seems to know more about the underlying mechanics then someone who has just played the game.

Still not sure if I believe everything he says.

He's revealed information a while back that we've only learned recently, so I trust some of what he says.

I agree with this. Still, if he's just playing the game, I'm not sure they way he thinks things work is exactly the way the will once everything does go online. Keep in mind he is playing the game in a vacuum.

[TUHD]

Yuoaman wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

felipejiraya wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

I have not seen proof that this guy has played the full game anywhere in this thread. He also seems to know more about the underlying mechanics then someone who has just played the game.

Still not sure if I believe everything he says.

This. It seems a little bit vague to me.

Unless he is someone involved with development who is violating his NDA. He seems to know thing about the underlying structure of the game that you would not know from just playing it.

I'm pretty sure he was a tester or someone else involved in QA.

If he is, then he violated the NDA... Had to sign an basic NDA while betatesting SWTOR too, and I doubt it will be any different for Mass Effect.

[Illusive]

TUHD wrote...

Trying to find the thread in the Gameplay Discussion (Spoilers allowed) section, but can't find the thread. Care to link?

This one?
http://social.biowar...33845/1#9344043

[Naughty Bear]

Yuoaman wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

I'm possibly jumping the gun here and over exaggerating, but so this means we have to play multiplayer to even get the best ending? I'm not sure if i read all the comments and the post right.

No, you can still get the best endings by just playing single-player, you'll just have to do all of the sidequests and such.

I'm happy with that. I hope it works like that anyway.

[Candidate 88766]

Yuoaman wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

I'm possibly jumping the gun here and over exaggerating, but so this means we have to play multiplayer to even get the best ending? I'm not sure if i read all the comments and the post right.

No, you can still get the best endings by just playing single-player, you'll just have to do all of the sidequests and such.

This.

Unless Bioware changed their minds at the last minute, the best endings will be available to those who only play the SP, meaning that the best endings must be achievable even if you're readiness is stuck at the lowest value of 50% (it seems decay cannot decrease it beyond 50%).

If you play MP, you get a boost to your readiness, but that boost will decay over time, giving incentive to keep playing and ensuring that a few MP matches don't give a permanent boost to the readiness level of every Shepard you ever play as.

[AlphaJarmel]

Let me also reaffirm that playing the singleplayer does NOT increase your readiness, only the extra stuff does.

Also you will have to grind very very hard in order to increase your GAW score by a large amount as a level 20 character is worth only 75 points.

Modifié par AlphaJarmel, 19 février 2012 - 07:37 .

[Femlob]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Let me also reaffirm that playing the singleplayer does NOT increase your readiness, only the extra stuff does.

Also you will have to grind very very hard in order to increase your GAW score by a large amount as a level 20 character is worth only 75 points.

Hrm.

[Candidate 88766]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Let me also reaffirm that playing the singleplayer does NOT increase your readiness, only the extra stuff does.

Also you will have to grind very very hard in order to increase your GAW score by a large amount as a level 20 character is worth only 75 points.

The best ending shouldn't be easy to achieve.

Besides, if one person is worth 75 then imagine how much a fleet is going to be worth. If you can get the majority of the galaxy on your side, 8000 points doesn't seem that bad.

Based on ME1 and ME2, these are all potential allies:

-Alliance 
-Turians
-Asari 
-Salarians
-Krogan
-Quarians
-Geth
-Rachni

If a single soldier, no matter how skilled, is worth 75, then the Turian military has got to be worth at least 1000. Same goes for the Asari, Salarian and Geth militaries. These are pure guesses, but I don't see how they could be worth less than 1000 points if one soldier is considered to be 75.

[AlphaJarmel]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Let me also reaffirm that playing the singleplayer does NOT increase your readiness, only the extra stuff does.

Also you will have to grind very very hard in order to increase your GAW score by a large amount as a level 20 character is worth only 75 points.

The best ending shouldn't be easy to achieve.

Besides, if one person is worth 75 then imagine how much a fleet is going to be worth. If you can get the majority of the galaxy on your side, 8000 points doesn't seem that bad.

Based on ME1 and ME2, these are all potential allies:

-Alliance 
-Turians
-Asari 
-Salarians
-Krogan
-Quarians
-Geth
-Rachni

If a single soldier, no matter how skilled, is worth 75, then the Turian military has got to be worth at least 1000. Same goes for the Asari, Salarian and Geth militaries. These are pure guesses, but I don't see how they could be worth less than 1000 points if one soldier is considered to be 75.

Krogan Alliance is worth 300 points.  Yea I'm shocked by how low that number is too.

Modifié par AlphaJarmel, 19 février 2012 - 07:52 .

[GnusmasTHX]

Meh. Seems easily doable. The only stupid thing is if decay is linked to the passing of real time, because

1) That basically kills replayability if you MUST rush through all your playthroughs, especially the third or fifth when you're finally taking it easy.

2) I'm probably just going to set the clock on my computer back.

[Candidate 88766]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

AlphaJarmel wrote...

Let me also reaffirm that playing the singleplayer does NOT increase your readiness, only the extra stuff does.

Also you will have to grind very very hard in order to increase your GAW score by a large amount as a level 20 character is worth only 75 points.

The best ending shouldn't be easy to achieve.

Besides, if one person is worth 75 then imagine how much a fleet is going to be worth. If you can get the majority of the galaxy on your side, 8000 points doesn't seem that bad.

Based on ME1 and ME2, these are all potential allies:

-Alliance 
-Turians
-Asari 
-Salarians
-Krogan
-Quarians
-Geth
-Rachni

If a single soldier, no matter how skilled, is worth 75, then the Turian military has got to be worth at least 1000. Same goes for the Asari, Salarian and Geth militaries. These are pure guesses, but I don't see how they could be worth less than 1000 points if one soldier is considered to be 75.

Krogan Alliance is worth 300 points.

They don't have a fleet. There's only so much that ground focres can do against Reapers.

[Annihilator27]

This is interesting, A dev should comment on this.

[TUHD]

@AlphaJarmel: Read the link you gave me, and you've made unnecessary confusion.

GAW Score: Is gained both through MP and playing SP. This DOES NOT decay. However, getting the necessary amount of points is a challenge.
Readiness: This doesn't drop below 50%. However, if you're above 50% through playing MP, you'll need to keep on playing to sustain the readiness level. Each RL day 1% readiness is removed till you're back at 50% again.

Base GAW score x Readiness % = net GAW score

Sad thing is that you're getting punished slightly IMHO if you don't want to play MP...

[Astrogenesis]

How is the Multiplayer linked to the Single player?

Lets say I play through ME3, and play some Multiplayer to get a good ending.
Then I play through ME3 again.
Do I have the Readieness % from my previous Multiplayer sessions or do I have to start a whole new Multiplayer account from scratch?

Heres the thing.
In the demo, your Multiplayer account is linked you your Gamertag (360).
But in the Campaign, you could have 7 different ME3 play throughs linked to that Gamertag.

Modifié par Astrogenesis, 19 février 2012 - 08:07 .

[Femlob]

TUHD wrote...

@AlphaJarmel: Read the link you gave me, and you've made unnecessary confusion.

GAW Score: Is gained both through MP and playing SP. This DOES NOT decay. However, getting the necessary amount of points is a challenge.
Readiness: This doesn't drop below 50%. However, if you're above 50% through playing MP, you'll need to keep on playing to sustain the readiness level. Each RL day 1% readiness is removed till you're back at 50% again.

Base GAW score x Readiness % = net GAW score

Sad thing is that you're getting punished slightly IMHO if you don't want to play MP...

Depending on how much one dislikes grinding, possibly more than slightly.

[TheInvicibleCandyBar]

Don't you get GAW points for transfering in ME2 saves? Coulda swore a dev said that somewhere

[f1ndmenow]

There is also the outside option of playing the iOS games to keep things in check, problem is not everyone can buy a iphone, ipod, or ipad touch. well except me anyway, but that is still not fair to other players.

[Sabbatine]

AlphaJarmel wrote...

What this means in regards to the endings is that to get the perfect ending, you have to play through the singleplayer game and do EVERY sidemission to get the perfect ending and you have to do it fast.  You can take your time but you'll have to play the multiplayer or the iOS game to maintain or increase your readiness level. 

So the multiplayer makes getting the perfect game MUCH easier.  Also when you import your level 20 character you get a GAW score of 75.

And yes the decay system is a horrible idea and I hate the person who thought it up.

Why is that a problem?  If you don't do every side mission (or alternatively choose to play the multiplayer) you don't really deserve the best ending, just as you didn't in ME2's suicide mission.  Looks like the decay only affects your multiplayer bonus number.

[BlackDoomShadow]

As long as the sidequests are varied and plot-relevant (like the loyalty missions in ME2), I'm okay with this.

[Soundsystem]

Since dev\\s have said you can achieve all endings with just single player I'm inclined to believe that.

If it does turn out that you need MP to bump your rating, and that it has real world decay, it would then seem that the most sensible option would be to play single player like normal until close to the very end. Then play MP for a while in order to bump your score, then beat the game before the readiness decays.

Also, whether or not 1% per day decay is brutal also depends how much % you gain from playing multiplayer. As if you can gain it back with a single mission or something it's not so bad. I would hope Bioware wouldn't make it so that you had to play everyday or be screwed.

[Hillbillyhat]

AlphaJarmel wrote...
Krogan Alliance is worth 300 points.  Yea I'm shocked by how low that number is too.

They don't have a large fleet and has a lower population than humanity (pre ME3). Yeah they will be a good asset but nothing on the scale of the Turians or Salarians.