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[Dragoonlordz]

Estel78 wrote...

Hawkeyed Cai Li wrote...

The decay system is absurd, if it's true.

What happens when they turn off multiplayer? What if I'm one of those people that has a lot of real-life things to attend to and can't always play every day? In-game success should never ever be tied to real-time. Why should the fact that I can't play every day keep me from having the best possible ending if I'm willing to play through it?

I don't appreciate being blackmailed into playing a game. This should be fun, not timed.

Don't you listen? You can get the perfect ending with just playing the single player.

But not apparently if you have a job, sleep or life outside of playing if tied into real time and real life decrease. Not unless play MP to make up for it of which was promised would not be the case of needing to play MP in order to get perfect ending. Now this is assumption on how it works in my statement but if true this is not a nice thing. I do not so much have problem if limited to decrease only while playing time spend in game time till reach end even if not ideal as I did not enjoy the forced time limit imposed in ME2 prior to going through relay or potentially lose characters. But if real time this is not going to get me excited more for the game, it will decrease the excitement I had/have towards the game (in real time) much like it wishes to decrease me readiness in the same way..

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 19 février 2012 - 09:40 .

[AlphaJarmel]

krol146 wrote...

AlphaJarmel wrote...
What this means in regards to the endings is that to get the perfect ending, you have to play through the singleplayer game and do EVERY sidemission to get the perfect ending and you have to do it fast.  You can take your time but you'll have to play the multiplayer or the iOS game to maintain or increase your readiness level.

You contradict yourself. If decay only affects the MP score, why would i have to hurry through the single player game?

Yea should have made that clear, I was referring to the increased Readiness level in that if you have above 50%, you better hurry and finish the game before it goes back down.

[Icinix]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Any kind of decay system is dumb.

If you've got work deadlines and need to crank the overtime, or if you've got study and need to give up sleep just to get your assignments done you're giving up whatever you've worked hard on previously. Games should never EVER be affected by your real life time scale.

Hopefully its bull crap.

If it's only the multiplayer that's affected by the decay system then I won't be bothered. I just hope it doesn't touch any sort of campaign progress. I'd muchly prefer enjoying the game to its fullest and take my time with it rather than being pushed by some aimless real-time mechanic, thank you.

I plan on doing a fair bit of multiplayer - but I'm also back at University in March - and I know there is going to be times when I won't be able to touch ME - so even if its only MP decay its still going to cause me grief.

Yeah - as long as it doesn't affect anything single player - but if you do play multiplayer as well to get a better readiness / score for ME3 SP- then get caught unable to play the game, that could be disheartening to come back and see anything you've done eroded. I still can't get my head around the whole system, but still - real time decay? Thats not a good idea...ever. It stinks of an artificial system just to keep people playing ME3 rather than other games.

[Klijpope]

Femlob wrote...

Klijpope wrote...

There's also the possibility you start with bonus GAW points if you import - possibly even depending on some decisions you've already made.

It's been reported in this thread that you gain 75 points for importing a Level 20 character. Beyond that, nothing concrete.

That's for importing a level 20 MP character to GAW/SP.

Dragoonlordz wrote...

But not apparently if you have a job, sleep or life outside of playing if tied into real time and real life decrease. Not unless play MP to make up for it of which was promised would not be the case of needing to play MP in order to get perfect ending. Now this is assumption on how it works in my statement but if true this is not a nice thing. I do not so much have problem if limited to decrease only while playing time spend in game time till reach end. But if real time this is not going to get me excited more for the game, it will decrease the excitement I had/have towards the game (in real time) much like it wishes to decrease me readiness in the same way..

The decay does not affect the single player game GAW rating, only the bonus that MP/iOS can give to it.

Modifié par Klijpope, 19 février 2012 - 09:40 .

[Icinix]

Estel78 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Any kind of decay system is dumb.

If
you've got work deadlines and need to crank the overtime, or if you've
got study and need to give up sleep just to get your assignments done
you're giving up whatever you've worked hard on previously. Games should
never EVER be affected by your real life time scale.

Hopefully its bull crap.

It's not a big deal coz it's just an alternate path, not essential. And i'm pretty sure you won't need to play that many matches in multiplayer to get 1%.

But if its an alternate path that I choose to take - then can't play for a few weeks - it better be stupidly easy to make up that lost percentage so I'm not affected because I had other obligations - and if its stupidly easy to get the percentage back up, then it makes it a redundant aspect of the game.

[Kilshrek]

If it is true that decay is linked to real life time, then that has got to be the... stupidest thing in the game. Especially when it's linked to an ending, I'm being punished by the game for going to class and doing my work now?

edit : Having a dev come in here to clear the air on this decay system would be really helpful.

Modifié par Kilshrek, 19 février 2012 - 09:41 .

[Bendok]

I am confused still. Let's take multiplayer and iOS completely out of the picture. So say I am doing a perfect single player only game, and I go on vacation for 2 weeks and can't play the game. Does this mean I can no longer get a so called perfect ending when I come back and start playing again?

[krol146]

Bendok wrote...

I am confused still. Let's take multiplayer and iOS completely out of the picture. So say I am doing a perfect single player only game, and I go on vacation for 2 weeks and can't play the game. Does this mean I can no longer get a so called perfect ending when I come back and start playing again?

You can still get the best ending, decay only affects your MP score.

[Estel78]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Estel78 wrote...

Hawkeyed Cai Li wrote...

The decay system is absurd, if it's true.

What happens when they turn off multiplayer? What if I'm one of those people that has a lot of real-life things to attend to and can't always play every day? In-game success should never ever be tied to real-time. Why should the fact that I can't play every day keep me from having the best possible ending if I'm willing to play through it?

I don't appreciate being blackmailed into playing a game. This should be fun, not timed.

Don't you listen? You can get the perfect ending with just playing the single player.

But not apparently if you have a job, sleep or life outside of playing if tied into real time and real life decrease.

Ok, for the last time: YOU CAN GET THE PERFECT ENDING WITHOUT TOUCHING MULTIPLAYER. Repeat it with me: YOU CAN GET THE PERFECT ENDING WITHOUT TOUCHING MULTIPLAYER. Again: YOU CAN GET THE PERFECT ENDING WITHOUT TOUCHING MULTIPLAYER. Got it?

[Klijpope]

Bendok wrote...

I am confused still. Let's take multiplayer and iOS completely out of the picture. So say I am doing a perfect single player only game, and I go on vacation for 2 weeks and can't play the game. Does this mean I can no longer get a so called perfect ending when I come back and start playing again?

No. If you only play SP then taking time off will not affect your GAW rating. It only effects the bonus % gained from playing MP/iOS.

[AlphaJarmel]

Wow I kinda thought this was clear in the OP. Let me try to edit it so it's clearer.

[Estel78]

Icinix wrote...

But if its an alternate path that I choose to take

At least you can take that path, which was not possible in ME2 or ME1.

[Dragoonlordz]

krol146 wrote...

Bendok wrote...

I am confused still. Let's take multiplayer and iOS completely out of the picture. So say I am doing a perfect single player only game, and I go on vacation for 2 weeks and can't play the game. Does this mean I can no longer get a so called perfect ending when I come back and start playing again?

You can still get the best ending, decay only affects your MP score.

Ok so time factor does not impact in the slightest to main SP game play through. I want to be 110% sure on this.

If start with 50% in SP, do all the quests/missions and such and gain enough points to get the best ending then leave for holiday or stop playing for x amount of time. When come back your points will be the same, will not have decreased at all in SP and will get best ending still? I just want to be super-duper-uber sure of this. Also sorry OP no offense intended but yes your original post comes across are very confusing which is why so much confusion.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 19 février 2012 - 09:45 .

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

Oh man, the amount of people here who fail to grasp such a SIMPLE concept is staggering.

You can play as much SP as you like. There is no link to real world time. That's right: SINGLE PLAYER PROGRESS DOES NOT DECAY. Just do your best and score as many GAW points as possible. Then, before you go beyond the point of no return, go play some multiplayer if you are unsure of your chances. Crank up the Readiness, then go into the final fight, boom. Headshot.

I mean really. Points scored with MP decay. So what? Play another few rounds of MP to get it back up. It's not hard. There is absolutely no issue here.

[Nathan Redgrave]

Klijpope wrote...

The decay does not affect the single player game GAW rating, only the bonus that MP/iOS can give to it.

Well, that's okay then.

[krol146]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

krol146 wrote...

Bendok wrote...

I am confused still. Let's take multiplayer and iOS completely out of the picture. So say I am doing a perfect single player only game, and I go on vacation for 2 weeks and can't play the game. Does this mean I can no longer get a so called perfect ending when I come back and start playing again?

You can still get the best ending, decay only affects your MP score.

Ok so time factor does not impact in the slightest to main SP game play through. I want to be 110% sure on this.

If start with 50% in SP, do all the quests/missions and such and gain enough points to get the best ending then leave for holiday or stop playing for x amount of time. When come back your points will be the same, will not have decreased at all in SP and will get best ending still? I just want to be super duper uber sure of this.

Correct, decay ONLY has an affect on your readiness score, wich is what you get from MP. Your GAW score, wich is from SP, will not go down for not playing.

[Justicar]

D-roy wrote...

Just... wow

On the first quote, do you know how long it took for people to figure the SM out? The Da Vinci part was a joke obvs 

On the second quote: Yeah, you're right. I know nothing about servers etc

[Praetor Knight]

The OP needs an FAQ section.

[Dragoonlordz]

krol146 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

krol146 wrote...

Bendok wrote...

I am confused still. Let's take multiplayer and iOS completely out of the picture. So say I am doing a perfect single player only game, and I go on vacation for 2 weeks and can't play the game. Does this mean I can no longer get a so called perfect ending when I come back and start playing again?

You can still get the best ending, decay only affects your MP score.

Ok so time factor does not impact in the slightest to main SP game play through. I want to be 110% sure on this.

If start with 50% in SP, do all the quests/missions and such and gain enough points to get the best ending then leave for holiday or stop playing for x amount of time. When come back your points will be the same, will not have decreased at all in SP and will get best ending still? I just want to be super duper uber sure of this.

Correct, decay ONLY has an affect on your readiness score, wich is what you get from MP. Your GAW score, wich is from SP, will not go down for not playing.

Okay thanks for clearing it up. Had me worried after reading the initial post in thread. I'm okay with this if is as what you just explained.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 19 février 2012 - 09:47 .

[MostlyAutumn]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Ok so time factor does not impact in the slightest to main SP game play through. I want to be 110% sure on this.

If start with 50% in SP, do all the quests/missions and such and gain enough points to get the best ending then leave for holiday or stop playing for x amount of time. When come back your points will be the same, will not have decreased at all in SP and will get best ending still? I just want to be super-duper-uber sure of this. Also sorry OP no offense intended but yes your original post comes across are very confusing which is why so much confusion.

Overall score = GaW x GR.

GaW is affected by SP and doesn't decay over time.

GR is affected by MP and decays 1% every day if it is above 50%. If you don't play MP at all, it is always at 50%.

Modifié par MostlyAutumn, 19 février 2012 - 09:48 .

[Icinix]

Estel78 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

But if its an alternate path that I choose to take

At least you can take that path, which was not possible in ME2 or ME1.

Ok - let me put it like this - I spend a few weeks cranking my alternate path / multiplayer because I am a completionist freak. I think I'm ready to take everything and finish my game with all the bonus and everything.

BANG - a huge pile of work lands on my desk. There goes the next two weeks as I crank overtime, my weekends are filled with uni studies and assignments while trying to organise group work meet ups plus general other life commitments and generally computer gaming gets knocked off the radar as it does from time to time.

After a few weeks I think finally - I can get back to my game - I have free time now. Get back - and lo and behold - I have had a compounding 1% decrease every day for the last three weeks.

That is not a good idea - and undoes any work I utilised to get there because of a time constraint. Not because of a game narrative, or choice, or clever twist - but because my real life took precedence over my game life.

[AlanC9]

The PLC wrote...

So am I being punished for staying away from MP or not?

I'd say you're being punished for playing MP, since it makes the game easy. MP-bonus decay means that you're punished less.

[Tazzmission]

AlanC9 wrote...

The PLC wrote...

So am I being punished for staying away from MP or not?

I'd say you're being punished for playing MP, since it makes the game easy. MP-bonus decay means that you're punished less.

wait wait wait. i may be slow myself but so mp makes you more stronger in the sp?

[AlanC9]

Icinix wrote...
Ok - let me put it like this - I spend a few weeks cranking my alternate path / multiplayer because I am a completionist freak. I think I'm ready to take everything and finish my game with all the bonus and everything.

BANG - a huge pile of work lands on my desk. There goes the next two weeks as I crank overtime, my weekends are filled with uni studies and assignments while trying to organise group work meet ups plus general other life commitments and generally computer gaming gets knocked off the radar as it does from time to time.

After a few weeks I think finally - I can get back to my game - I have free time now. Get back - and lo and behold - I have had a compounding 1% decrease every day for the last three weeks.

My understanding is that you keep everything you got from being a completionist. You're losing the bonus from MP, not what you earned in SP missions.