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The end is nigh; what is the purpose of the Reapers harvest?


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I know similar threads has been made throughout the years, but I thought an "updated" topic on the matter is fitting as we draw closer to the last chapter of Shepards story.

We know they "reap" every 50.000 years, and that they turn races into liquid goo which in turn is molded into a Reaper. But why? What is their purpose? Is it immortality? Or something far more incomprihensible :happy:

I've been thinking, maybe they are actually waiting for a certain civilization to arise, such as the human race. They kill everything, wait for a new civilization, kill everything again and so on...until the "right" race emerges. What if we are the right race? We know the Reapers are more interested in us than any other race, but is that just because of Shepard (who, might I add, wasn't alone at all, but had comrades from different races who all made the defeat of Soverign and the collector base possible)?

I've been thinking about several theories, all of them very strange and borderline philosophical, but I'm more interested in reading everyone elses thoughts :) Please share!

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Watch End of Evangelion - the orange goop is practically the same thing. The Reapers probably want to preserve life in this fashion and beat the high entropic fate of the universe or something.

Modifié par AwesomeName, 19 février 2012 - 07:24 .


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They're living in near galaxies. they don't want races to advance and get near them.

Or

They can't go outside of this galaxy, so they have to destroy advanced sapients every 50K years to save their sovereignty and survive.

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“Why are you here?” Kahlee asked. “What do you want from us?” She wasn’t sure if the Reapers would even reply. All she was hoping for was that she might be able to engage the Reapers enough to give Grayson a fighting chance. A fighting chance to do what, however, she couldn’t say.

“We seek salvation,” Grayson said, much to her surprise. “Ours and yours.”

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didymos1120 wrote...

“Why are you here?” Kahlee asked. “What do you want from us?” She wasn’t sure if the Reapers would even reply. All she was hoping for was that she might be able to engage the Reapers enough to give Grayson a fighting chance. A fighting chance to do what, however, she couldn’t say.

“We seek salvation,” Grayson said, much to her surprise. “Ours and yours.”


That just makes me wonder what they're seeking salvation from.

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aLucidMind wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

“Why are you here?” Kahlee asked. “What do you want from us?” She wasn’t sure if the Reapers would even reply. All she was hoping for was that she might be able to engage the Reapers enough to give Grayson a fighting chance. A fighting chance to do what, however, she couldn’t say.

“We seek salvation,” Grayson said, much to her surprise. “Ours and yours.”


That just makes me wonder what they're seeking salvation from.


Entropy, I think...  I could be wrong.

Modifié par AwesomeName, 19 février 2012 - 07:34 .


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spoilers removed

Modifié par tobynator89, 19 février 2012 - 07:38 .


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While plugging through my ME2 playthrough to get ready for ME3, and having just cleared the Migrant Fleet, I'd wager that the Reapers do what they do as part of some greater process for mitigating against stellar dark energy build-up and thus preventing the galaxy's stars from spontaneously combusting.

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They want all of our cake.

But the cake is a lie. Therefore they must kill us.

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I think they are just like farmers. They fatten up the galaxy for 50,000 years then go reap it.

AwsomeName Would Bioware rip off Eva to that extent ? I'm not disagreeing with you but it seems pretty blatant.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 19 février 2012 - 07:46 .


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They're immortalizing all the worthy races. They' just don't want to be alone.

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GnusmasTHX wrote...

They're immortalizing all the worthy races. They' just don't want to be alone.


Yes, that's the case. I'd forgotten it.

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After ME2, I first thought that what they wanted was to immortalize the best species of the current era. The one who earns more of their respect than any of the others. Even if they hate Humans, I think they clearly respect Shepard as a real threat.

Or, like AwesomeName said, could just be galactic entropy prevention.

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GnusmasTHX wrote...

They're immortalizing all the worthy races. They' just don't want to be alone.

I think so too.

They have a very pretentious view of salvation, don't they? :P

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AwesomeName wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

“Why are you here?” Kahlee asked. “What do you want from us?” She wasn’t sure if the Reapers would even reply. All she was hoping for was that she might be able to engage the Reapers enough to give Grayson a fighting chance. A fighting chance to do what, however, she couldn’t say.

“We seek salvation,” Grayson said, much to her surprise. “Ours and yours.”


That just makes me wonder what they're seeking salvation from.


Entropy, I think...  I could be wrong.


Very interesting

Extract from wikipedia:

Within religion salvation is the phenomenon of being saved from the undesirable condition of bondage or suffering experienced by the psyche or soul that has arisen as a result of unskillful or immoral actions generically referred to as sins.


I find the piece about "bondage or suffering" more interesting. What exactly are they trying to break free from, if that is what they indeed are trying to do? I can't help but seeing a picture of Arnold Schwarzenegger slowly being lowered down into hot lava.. "I can't self terminate"... Might be a bit far fetched, but perhaps humans is the only race capable of destroying the Reapers, thus freeing them of their bondage? 

Modifié par Siddan, 19 février 2012 - 07:54 .


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Why we reproduce?

We have sex, they melt people.

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I certainly hope it's not because they've been waiting for a race like humans to arrive. That would greatly diminish the postmodern tone of the entire game where humans aren't special and that we're just one race in the galactic community. I'm tired of all the sci-fi stories where humanity is super special.

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GnusmasTHX wrote...

They're immortalizing all the worthy races. They' just don't want to be alone.


Also a very interesting thought, but how does that grant them Salvation? 

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Maybe it is natural instinct?

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Siddan wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

They're immortalizing all the worthy races. They' just don't want to be alone.


Also a very interesting thought, but how does that grant them Salvation? 

Probably the theory is that once a race gets too far advanced, they will end up destroying themselves. Probably akin to how the first reaper was created. Reapers are the apex of civilization and technology.

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Painaid wrote...

I certainly hope it's not because they've been waiting for a race like humans to arrive. That would greatly diminish the postmodern tone of the entire game where humans aren't special and that we're just one race in the galactic community. I'm tired of all the sci-fi stories where humanity is super special.


But the reapers allready seem to think we are "super special", and I don't know if that's only because of Shepards actions, or something else. Mordin said something about humans being more genetically diverse than the rest of the species in the galaxy. That also makes us more "special" than others. 

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IElitePredatorI wrote...

Maybe it is natural instinct?


They're still largely machines. How does the concept of "natural instinct" even apply?

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didymos1120 wrote...

IElitePredatorI wrote...

Maybe it is natural instinct?


They're still largely machines. How does the concept of "natural instinct" even apply?


It was just a suggestion.   Image IPB

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IElitePredatorI wrote...

Maybe it is natural instinct?


I reap therefore I am ?

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I want the reapers to be an intergalactic spanning species and the milky way is only one of their harvest locations, so the importance of humans is not too far-reaching. as for their origins, they were once themselves a biological life-form like humans but eventually evolved/advanced technologically to the point of being first, the only species in the universe capable of intra-galactic travel, then inter-galactic. their own home galaxy which dates back to the beginning of the universe, has mostly sunken into its super massive blackhole core long ago, save for a few star systems of very high importance to the reapers on the outer rim. its was the inevitability that their galaxy be swallowed by its core that drove them outwards to find other suitable galaxies to provide them with resources, but also serves another purpose..

I think the reason they harvest sentient species to create new reapers from is so they can perfect their race, so its merely their form of biological engineering to create better and better reapers, which are allowed a certain time to reach potential before they are added to the genetic pool of the reapers.

Modifié par eldrjth, 19 février 2012 - 08:03 .