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[JeffZero]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

I tried it for a little while, it's fun enough.

But I have a Silver account on the 360, so I don't think I'll be using it at all, once the game comes out. I'm not that interesting in getting a Gold membership at this point.

Yeah, it really isn't worth it for one game. I'm in a similar enough boat. The only reason I'll get to play it for a while is that a friend of mine, really stellar girl, added me to her family account of the kindness of her heart... or the fact that she couldn't think of anyone else to add, not sure which.

Once that runs out I won't buy a Gold. Multiplayer shooters? Not mah thing. Fun while it lasts though.

[Farbautisonn]

Nu-Nu wrote...
You obviously haven't played ME3 MP. You don't shoot each other, you have to work as a team. Unlike CoD where you're aim is to kill as many of each other off, you are always on the same team in ME3 MP, and have to keep each other alive for 10 waves.

Bioware has made it so that you're always on the same team, and fighting against A.I enemies. It gets rid of the immature and competiveness edge that CoD has.

-So in MP Ill be killing bots with complete strangers for no reason whatsoever. Thanks for that info. Made the choise to stay well the hell clear of MP even easier. 

[JeffZero]

jreezy wrote...

Savber100 wrote...

No you're never the only one.

Why does EVERYONE think they're the only ones?

Yeah I don't get the purpose of these topics.

A very minor case of multi-generational egocentricism. You know how many times a decent percentage of the world has felt beyond a shadow of a doubt that they were part of the last group of men and women to walk on the Earth? People like to be unique.

[Farbautisonn]

JeffZero wrote...
I'll have you know there are plenty of PC players who intend to log hundreds of hours into it. Please don't make this one of those kinds of debates.

-Good for them. I wont be one of them and if they try to pidgeonhole me into playing the MP for some halfarsed SP reward Ill ignore it on principle.

[JeffZero]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Nu-Nu wrote...
You obviously haven't played ME3 MP. You don't shoot each other, you have to work as a team. Unlike CoD where you're aim is to kill as many of each other off, you are always on the same team in ME3 MP, and have to keep each other alive for 10 waves.

Bioware has made it so that you're always on the same team, and fighting against A.I enemies. It gets rid of the immature and competiveness edge that CoD has.

-So in MP Ill be killing bots with complete strangers for no reason whatsoever. Thanks for that info. Made the choise to stay well the hell clear of MP even easier. 

There's an appropriate level of rationale behind fending off the various waves of enemy troops, really. It's just a pretty monotonous laundry list of explanations, but at its core it's plenty sensible. You're the folks sent in to secure all the areas Shepard's going through during the war. You're the grunts.

And they aren't strangers if you know anyone else who's playing the game's multiplayer feature.

Look, it's not exactly the best thing since sliced bread for me either but I think you're going a bit overboard with the criticisms, all things considered.

[Giant ambush beetle]

A few years ago I used to be a huuge multiplayer fan; right after coming home from school I played like 8 hours nonstop a day 7 days a week Wolfenstein Enemy Territory - and I had a blast, my kill death ratio was about 3.5:1.
Something changed in me though, now I find multilayer tiresome and extremely repetitive, after an hour of MP I feel jaded and its not fun anymore, it doesn't even feel like gaming, more like sports.

Now I have way more fun enjoying immersive stories, character development, exciting plot twists and epic and emotional scenes. .

[JeffZero]

Farbautisonn wrote...

JeffZero wrote...
I'll have you know there are plenty of PC players who intend to log hundreds of hours into it. Please don't make this one of those kinds of debates.

-Good for them. I wont be one of them and if they try to pidgeonhole me into playing the MP for some halfarsed SP reward Ill ignore it on principle.

Cool, fight the powa brotha.

[JeffZero]

The Woldan wrote...

A few years ago I used to be a huuge multiplayer fan; right after coming home from school I played like 8 hours nonstop a day 7 days a week Wolfenstein Enemy Territory - and I had a blast, my kill death ratio was about 3.5:1.
Something changed in me though, now I find multilayer tiresome and extremely repetitive, after an hour of MP I feel jaded and its not fun anymore, it doesn't even feel like gaming, more like sports.

Now I have way more fun enjoying immersive stories, character development, exciting plot twists and epic and emotional scenes. .

Sounds like me minus the... ever falling in love with multiplayer modes.

[JeffZero]

jreezy wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

MouseNo4 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Farbautisonn wrote...

I play mass effect for the story. I dont give a crap how fast I can tap four guys in MP. I will not be playing MP. Its for the console crowd who wants an evening with the lads shooting the crap out of eachother.

I'll have you know there are plenty of PC players who intend to log hundreds of hours into it. Please don't make this one of those kinds of debates.

Why not?

Because as a console player with a decent number of brain cells in my head I tend to roll my eyes when people stereotype us as some prehistoric race of cave dwellers who somehow managed to survive into the modern era long enough to hop on Xbox 360s and curse at our mothers for yelling at us mid-match.

You mean I'm not a prehistoric cave dweller who somehow managed to survive long enough into the modern era long enough to hop on a Xbox 360 and curse at my mother for yelling at me?

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Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 20 février 2012 - 12:22 .

[Praetor Knight]

JeffZero wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...

I tried it for a little while, it's fun enough.

But I have a Silver account on the 360, so I don't think I'll be using it at all, once the game comes out. I'm not that interesting in getting a Gold membership at this point.

Yeah, it really isn't worth it for one game. I'm in a similar enough boat. The only reason I'll get to play it for a while is that a friend of mine, really stellar girl, added me to her family account of the kindness of her heart... or the fact that she couldn't think of anyone else to add, not sure which.

Once that runs out I won't buy a Gold. Multiplayer shooters? Not mah thing. Fun while it lasts though.

Cool that you can try it out though, I might give MP demo a few more goes for the next few weeks.  : )


I haven't played a competive game in a very long time myself, and the last co-op I tried was Alien Swarm, it lost its luster when other players would all too frequently focus on taking out other players, than focusing on the enemy!

[JeffZero]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Praetor Shepard wrote...

I tried it for a little while, it's fun enough.

But I have a Silver account on the 360, so I don't think I'll be using it at all, once the game comes out. I'm not that interesting in getting a Gold membership at this point.

Yeah, it really isn't worth it for one game. I'm in a similar enough boat. The only reason I'll get to play it for a while is that a friend of mine, really stellar girl, added me to her family account of the kindness of her heart... or the fact that she couldn't think of anyone else to add, not sure which.

Once that runs out I won't buy a Gold. Multiplayer shooters? Not mah thing. Fun while it lasts though.

Cool that you can try it out though, I might give MP demo a few more goes for the next few weeks.  : )


I haven't played a competive game in a very long time myself, and the last co-op I tried was Alien Swarm, it lost its luster when other players would all too frequently focus on taking out other players, than focusing on the enemy!

Hah, well that sounds like it could be problematic indeed.

Yeah, I'm definitely grateful for this opportunity. But I hear ya, I wouldn't have spent cash on a Gold membership otherwise probably, not even for Mass Effect.

[felipejiraya]

MP is really entertaining but it's not a thing I will devote hours and hours when the full game launches.

[JenMaxon]

I didn't think I'd like it much but PLAYING WITH other forumites from here has been SUCH fun. Once the SP is out (and you have to pay for MP?), I'll probably not bother but, for now, MP is passing the time nicely till release and I'm getting to grips with the controls. Give it a try, OP, before you judge.

[Farbautisonn]

JeffZero wrote...

There's an appropriate level of rationale behind fending off the various waves of enemy troops, really. It's just a pretty monotonous laundry list of explanations, but at its core it's plenty sensible. You're the folks sent in to secure all the areas Shepard's going through during the war. You're the grunts.

And they aren't strangers if you know anyone else who's playing the game's multiplayer feature.

Look, it's not exactly the best thing since sliced bread for me either but I think you're going a bit overboard with the criticisms, all things considered.

-Heres a novel idea. Make it a part of the SP campain. A "Joker-esque" mission. Dont try to pidgeonhole me into playing with other people. I enjoy my escapism. If I want to be pidgeonholed into joining others in slaying bots over and over ad nauseam, Ill play WoW.


I generally tend to consider people I havent met IRL or have intense correspondence with as "Strangers". Colour me strange that way.

As for me going overboard, I dont think so. From what little I gather I am supposed to play MP to get the "full experience" in the SP campain. How about "no". 

If I want a challenge in an FPS MP situation there are plenty of games outthere where I can do just that. Games that have better mechanics and where my opponents are flesh and blood, not bots. And no matter how you cut it, a real person behind a keyboard or a controller is still way more cunning and observant of his surroundings than a bot.

[Farbautisonn]

JeffZero wrote...

Cool, fight the powa brotha.

-Its not really about fighting the powa "Brotha". Its about having a storydriven fps trying to be something its not. From what Ive seen in the SP the story has taken a backburner to the Shooter bit. We do barrelrolls but cant holster our guns. And anyone with even an iota of military knowledge much less any military training knows that not even elite military units use barrel rolls in tactical situations. It breaks immersion. Try doing a roll in a tactical west or with your kit on. Wont happen ever.

[G3rman]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Multiplayer is a competitive "sport" it's the only point that it has. Otherwise you are just killing random stuff for no reason. While you may find that fun I don't.

Seems like you grew up in the MLG days with COD and Halo and all the rest of the competitive online.  Yes it has its fun too, but back in the day Multiplayer meant coop and splitscreen and having fun with friends.  Now that's taken a backseat to rage inducing trash talking stupid people spawning competitive multiplayer.

Mass Effect might not be perfect but at least they are capturing some of the original appeal of multiplayer, teamwork, cooperation, and mindless fun all bundled into a sci-fi package we enjoy.

That is why I can say I love both SP and MP.

[KBomb]

Nah, don't care at all for multiplayer. I tried it several times and just lose interest. I feel it's pretty unbalanced. If I want to play horde, I'll do so with GoW. It's a lot more fun and balanced, imo. Also, it makes me worry about the DLC content that will be coming our way, but that's another discussion.

[JeffZero]

Farbautisonn wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Cool, fight the powa brotha.

-Its not really about fighting the powa "Brotha". Its about having a storydriven fps trying to be something its not. From what Ive seen in the SP the story has taken a backburner to the Shooter bit. We do barrelrolls but cant holster our guns. And anyone with even an iota of military knowledge much less any military training knows that not even elite military units use barrel rolls in tactical situations. It breaks immersion. Try doing a roll in a tactical west or with your kit on. Wont happen ever.

Yeah, it's taken a bit of a backburner to the shooter aspects as far as gameplay is concerned. The narrative, characterizations and setting are what keeps me going though, so as far as I'm concerned Shepard can ride into the final assault on a prancing pony during gameplay sequences so long as Garrus and Wrex respond appropriately to the various situations at hand.

Granted in such an extreme case I'd almost hope one of the situations they respond to is the fact that Shepard is riding into the final assault on a prancing pony, but generally speaking I separate the gunplay from the storyline pretty extensively in my head. Yeah, I get the 'it breaks immersion; lore is part of the story' argument, but after seeing some of the stupid things my squad did in combat during ME1 I pretty much stopped caring about this aspect.

[Total Biscuit]

I honestly did not expect to care about MP once I found out you couldn't play it split screen, but having played the demo, I've bought myself Xbox live gold for the main game.

Frankly, knowing what the SP story is going to be like thanks to the leaked script, I'm actually buying this more for MP now.

We all worried MP would negatively impact SP, instead it turns out it makes up for Mac Walters writing.

[JeffZero]

Farbautisonn wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

There's an appropriate level of rationale behind fending off the various waves of enemy troops, really. It's just a pretty monotonous laundry list of explanations, but at its core it's plenty sensible. You're the folks sent in to secure all the areas Shepard's going through during the war. You're the grunts.

And they aren't strangers if you know anyone else who's playing the game's multiplayer feature.

Look, it's not exactly the best thing since sliced bread for me either but I think you're going a bit overboard with the criticisms, all things considered.

-Heres a novel idea. Make it a part of the SP campain. A "Joker-esque" mission. Dont try to pidgeonhole me into playing with other people. I enjoy my escapism. If I want to be pidgeonholed into joining others in slaying bots over and over ad nauseam, Ill play WoW.


I generally tend to consider people I havent met IRL or have intense correspondence with as "Strangers". Colour me strange that way.

As for me going overboard, I dont think so. From what little I gather I am supposed to play MP to get the "full experience" in the SP campain. How about "no". 

If I want a challenge in an FPS MP situation there are plenty of games outthere where I can do just that. Games that have better mechanics and where my opponents are flesh and blood, not bots. And no matter how you cut it, a real person behind a keyboard or a controller is still way more cunning and observant of his surroundings than a bot.

Fair enough, on all counts.

[JeffZero]

Total Biscuit wrote...

I honestly did not expect to care about MP once I found out you couldn't play it split screen, but having played the demo, I've bought myself Xbox live gold for the main game.

Frankly, knowing what the SP story is going to be like thanks to the leaked script, I'm actually buying this more for MP now.

We all worried MP would negatively impact SP, instead it turns out it makes up for Mac Walters writing.

If that's how you feel about what you've read then fair enough. I've enjoyed roughly 85% of what I've been told, which isn't a bad batch at all, really.

And the lead writers really don't have nearly that much sway. Karpyshyn wasn't so totally responsible for the ME1 twists people always talk about, nor was Walters especially responsible for the problems people harp about with ME2. For proof, just look at everything either of them have ever said in interviews: they manage and coordinate but the individual level writers have the utmost priority.

If there are things in ME3 that you really can't stand, I'd sooner pin the issue on the individual writers in the team. I'm not saying this because I've got some bizarre e-fixation with Mac Walters here or anything, I just want to see people properly informed on the writing process. I'm sure Walters has a few things directly tied to him -- he writes characters like Garrus, so if you've got issues with them, have at him -- but the general overarching twists and turns? Not as much as you might think.

[Nu-Nu]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Nu-Nu wrote...
You obviously haven't played ME3 MP. You don't shoot each other, you have to work as a team. Unlike CoD where you're aim is to kill as many of each other off, you are always on the same team in ME3 MP, and have to keep each other alive for 10 waves.

Bioware has made it so that you're always on the same team, and fighting against A.I enemies. It gets rid of the immature and competiveness edge that CoD has.

-So in MP Ill be killing bots with complete strangers for no reason whatsoever. Thanks for that info. Made the choise to stay well the hell clear of MP even easier. 

When someone rushes in to save you when you're down, or you work together it's a great feeling, you don't feel alone in the battle. Ok there are occassions when you get the one idiot who plays MP as if he's on his own without care for their teammates but most of the time, these strangers have been so helpful and have been watching your back. You have to consider your teammates when you play and they have to consider you in return or you won't make it.

They're still strangers but when you distracting a gaurdian and the other person sneaks up behind him to kill him, that's great teamwork, something that you probably don't expect the AI of your teammates in SP mode to do.

I don't play much multiplayer, I played CoD MP on my boyfriend's account, because, despite that it can be fun, I don't care enough about CoD to make my own powerful character.

But the demo MP for ME3 has really been fun, the most fun I had on any multiplayer, maybe that's because there is importance behind this MP that makes more than a quick shoot em up. I'll be getting an xbox gold account  for it.

I'm not going to tell you should play it, but you're assessment and misconception of it is a bit misguided.

Modifié par Nu-Nu, 20 février 2012 - 12:02 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Originally, I was vehemently against the inclusion of multiplayer. When it was announced, I was dismayed, but I figured I'd give it a chance JUST IN CASE it was any good. When the details were announced, I became cautiously optimistic--it sounded like it'd be fun.

And now that I've played the demo to death, I can safely say co-op is frickin' awesome.

I am amazed at my complete conversion, to be honest. Then again, the same exact thing happened with every squadmate I've ever hated, soooo...