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[JeffZero]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Originally, I was vehemently against the inclusion of multiplayer. When it was announced, I was dismayed, but I figured I'd give it a chance JUST IN CASE it was any good. When the details were announced, I became cautiously optimistic--it sounded like it'd be fun.

And now that I've played the demo to death, I can safely say co-op is frickin' awesome.

I am amazed at my complete conversion, to be honest. Then again, the same exact thing happened with every squadmate I've ever hated, soooo...

Cheez, what do you play on again? Curse me for relentlessly forgetting and damn me if you've told me already.

[DaringMoosejaw]

Well, here's why it isn't pointless: Because using that argument, you could say that video gaming in its entirety is pointless.

What's playing video games? It's sitting around on your ass, doing absolutely nothing constructive. Staring at a wall for 8 hours or playing an RPG for 8 hours has exactly the same amount of practical use, which is to say...none.

Unless you count, of course, fun. Fun, which is subjective. Some folks have fun playing single player games, some folks have fun playing multiplayer games. If you're both having fun, neither one of your experiences are any better than the others'. Mass Effect 3 is game that caters to both.

The only reason I can think of for anyone to lambast people who care about the multiplayer is that they don't care about multiplayer and feel left out, so the response is to of course be super-extra-proud that you don't care about multiplayer and make a point about how stupid all those people who do care are.

I, for one, am going to actually play and have fun with BOTH modes! I wasn't even looking forward to multiplayer, I thought the inclusion of it was not really all that important, but I can see from the demo that my friends and I will have plenty of fun with it. That's all that matters to me.

[Farbautisonn]

JeffZero wrote...

Yeah, it's taken a bit of a backburner to the shooter aspects as far as gameplay is concerned. The narrative, characterizations and setting are what keeps me going though, so as far as I'm concerned Shepard can ride into the final assault on a prancing pony during gameplay sequences so long as Garrus and Wrex respond appropriately to the various situations at hand.

Granted in such an extreme case I'd almost hope one of the situations they respond to is the fact that Shepard is riding into the final assault on a prancing pony, but generally speaking I separate the gunplay from the storyline pretty extensively in my head. Yeah, I get the 'it breaks immersion; lore is part of the story' argument, but after seeing some of the stupid things my squad did in combat during ME1 I pretty much stopped caring about this aspect.

-Well. The prancing pony bit would be a bit much for me. Id prefer some kind of ending Id actually be able to believe in, at least as far as the setting goes. Character interaction? Meh. What little there is, is nice, but its not PS:T now is it? ME is an ego trip with you, the gamer, as lead star of your own interactive novel or movie. The rest are just there as supporting cast. I rather like that.

I cant seperate the gunplay from the storyline. There has to be some relation or the game just stops being an RPG or a storydriven game. If I have finely tuned violence under some flimsy and halfarsed excuse of a story then I dont see the point. And sure... your squad does idiotic things but its the game AI. Nobody would run into your field of fire, nor would you run into the field of fire of others. But hey. Thats the premise. Thats the tech limitations.

[jcolt]

its fun and adds to replayability so i'm very interested.

[JeffZero]

Farbautisonn wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Yeah, it's taken a bit of a backburner to the shooter aspects as far as gameplay is concerned. The narrative, characterizations and setting are what keeps me going though, so as far as I'm concerned Shepard can ride into the final assault on a prancing pony during gameplay sequences so long as Garrus and Wrex respond appropriately to the various situations at hand.

Granted in such an extreme case I'd almost hope one of the situations they respond to is the fact that Shepard is riding into the final assault on a prancing pony, but generally speaking I separate the gunplay from the storyline pretty extensively in my head. Yeah, I get the 'it breaks immersion; lore is part of the story' argument, but after seeing some of the stupid things my squad did in combat during ME1 I pretty much stopped caring about this aspect.

-Well. The prancing pony bit would be a bit much for me. Id prefer some kind of ending Id actually be able to believe in, at least as far as the setting goes. Character interaction? Meh. What little there is, is nice, but its not PS:T now is it? ME is an ego trip with you, the gamer, as lead star of your own interactive novel or movie. The rest are just there as supporting cast. I rather like that.

I cant seperate the gunplay from the storyline. There has to be some relation or the game just stops being an RPG or a storydriven game. If I have finely tuned violence under some flimsy and halfarsed excuse of a story then I dont see the point. And sure... your squad does idiotic things but its the game AI. Nobody would run into your field of fire, nor would you run into the field of fire of others. But hey. Thats the premise. Thats the tech limitations.

Well alright then. Sure, Mass Effect is no Xenogears or Planescape Torment by any means, but I don't really get the ego trip from it that a lot of people do, personally. But yes, I see what you mean. Shepard -- the player -- is unequivocally the star.

[Dominus]

Haven't touched it yet, but that's mostly due to some bizarre origin error that has yet to be cleared up. I tried the single-player, but never got a chance for the co-op.

[Julia343]

Not really interested in competitive MP anymore. Too much cheating going on in CoD, Gears, Halo. Modded controllers now even being sold on Amazon by Microsoft, and with people hacking their XBoxes and stuff I'm quite wary of it. My XBox account got fully hacked in September, and I just happened to be home and checking e-mail when it happened. Lucky me. Only 4000 microsoft points of damage done which was refunded, and my account was shut down for a month. I did have to cancel the credit card too. Now only prepaid cards.

[Zkyire]

LibertarianSteel wrote...

I've loved this game series so much for the story, not the introduction of multiplayer.

I cannot really see myself getting into the multiplayer. What about yourselves? 

Felt the same way as you before the MP demo came out.

Then I played it.

..I am in love with the MP now.

[frustratemyself]

I care because it's a lot of fun.

Modifié par frustratemyself, 20 février 2012 - 12:15 .

[JeffZero]

Julia343 wrote...

Not really interested in competitive MP anymore. Too much cheating going on in CoD, Gears, Halo. Modded controllers now even being sold on Amazon by Microsoft, and with people hacking their XBoxes and stuff I'm quite wary of it. My XBox account got fully hacked in September, and I just happened to be home and checking e-mail when it happened. Lucky me. Only 4000 microsoft points of damage done which was refunded, and my account was shut down for a month. I did have to cancel the credit card too. Now only prepaid cards.

That really sucks, no spinning that one. But this isn't competitive, it's cooperative. You're aware of that, right?

[Farbautisonn]

Nu-Nu wrote...

When someone rushes in to save you when you're down, or you work together it's a great feeling, you don't feel alone in the battle. Ok there are occassions when you get the one idiot who plays MP as if he's on his own without care for their teammates but most of the time, these strangers have been so helpful and have been watching your back. You have to consider your teammates when you play and they have to consider you in return or you won't make it.

They're still strangers but when you distracting a gaurdian and the other person sneaks up behind him to kill him, that's great teamwork, something that you probably don't expect the AI of your teammates in SP mode to do.

I don't play much multiplayer, I played CoD MP on my boyfriend's account, because, despite that it can be fun, I don't care enough about CoD to make my own powerful character.

But the demo MP for ME3 has really been fun, the most fun I had on any multiplayer, maybe that's because there is importance behind this MP that makes more than a quick shoot em up. I'll be getting an xbox gold account  for it.

I'm not going to tell you should play it, but you're assessment and misconception of it is a bit misguided.

All of the above is very nice and I undestand the sentiments.

However if I want that in a game, there are otehr games where that Teamwork and that unit cohesion is nessesary and far better exposed upon. I can play Battlefield in a clan, I can play wow in a big guild, etc if thats what I am looking for.

I dont see any "misconceptions" or "misguidedness". I just dont like MP games. I hate Counterstrike I hated "AvP" (Aliens vs Predator) and whilst I liked CoD it was mostly because the people who played it got so intensely frustrated when I killed them that they had to "vent". The same thing was the attraction with Battlefield Vietnam and other Multiplayer games I have enjoyed. But bots? Seriously? Bots can and will sooner or later be figured out. Which means that sooner or later youll end up repeating the precise same "strat" in a WoW esque manner untill you puke. No variation. No innovation. No evolvement. Not reward for thinking outside the box or employing the environment in a unique way. Just a coookie cutter solution where you are pidgeonholed into thinking like a lemming. Nothanks. 

[graciegrace]

I wasn't interested, but me and my friends tried the demo out and it was pretty fun. I don't see it as something serious to do, or something I want to use in SP, but if me and my friends wanna play for ****s and giggles we'll probably play it.

[andy6915]

I've never much cared for MP, I won't be touching ME3's.

[Virgil88]

 Nay. I do not care for multiplayer anymore at all anywhere ever. It all feels too shallow for me. Often too much of a race for ~ranks~ and ~acheivments~ and the ~best gun~ you can only get after you grinded enough ranks and acheivements. Color me burned out of that kind of "play". Maybe i'm just too old for this ****? 

[JeffZero]

Virgil88 wrote...

 Nay. I do not care for multiplayer anymore at all anywhere ever. It all feels too shallow for me. Often too much of a race for ~ranks~ and ~acheivments~ and the ~best gun~ you can only get after you grinded enough ranks and acheivements. Color me burned out of that kind of "play". Maybe i'm just too old for this ****? 

Funnily enough, I didn't touch an online shooter until I was 21, didn't like it and here I am at 24 having a decent bit of fun with ME3's.

[Drone223]

I'll be more into the SP of ME3 but the Co-op in ME3 is fantastic

Modifié par Drone223, 20 février 2012 - 12:46 .

[Zubie]

It's pretty fun but only if you play with friends

[Roenik]

I played it and loved it. Found a great team of people who don't normally play MP, so it's a very casual and fun environment to co-op in. I enjoy playing with people who love the ME universe.

[Pedro Costa]

LibertarianSteel wrote...

I've loved this game series so much for the story, not the introduction of multiplayer.

I cannot really see myself getting into the multiplayer. What about yourselves? 

I used to think like you, then I gave it a shot

[incinerator950]

I would have stopped loading the demo if it didn't have Multiplayer.  If they didn't put the Multiplayer, they would have had more in the SP demo, but that would still have been boring.

Multiplayer adds more Replayability. 

[Djdeedzd]

I enjoy multiplayer but wich for more teamwork from it.
Honestly I'm smiling while playing it and singing "I'm a tumor" song from Family Guy.

[KotorEffect3]

I havn't tried out the MP demo yet though I have played all six classes in the SP demo. To me it will see how the MP mode fits into the main story. I am interested in seeing how Shepard's journey plays out, however I do have incentive to play the MP because it shoud make it easier to get the better endings for the SP.

[Volus Warlord]

I am very happy with the multiplayer overall. A bit clunky, but nothing that can't be ironed out.