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[Creyes one]

Silver is easy with my asari adept,soilder,vanguard and engineer....

[Bravo0o]

Eludajae wrote...

I fail so see why people care. This isn't pvp its solely a PvE and if you ever try Gold level you will not be carrying on about how overpowered Asari are you will be celebrating their arrival in your team. Trust me. Some people just complain for complaining sake.

Exactly the reason why the easy-mode bubble should be nerfed.

[Bon3zz1001]

Without it the Asari Adept is basically useless on anything past bronze. There would be no reason to play as them.

[Bon3zz1001]

Edit: Double post. Browser screwed up. 

Modifié par Bon3zz1001, 20 février 2012 - 04:32 .

[Drakolyik]

Bon3zz1001 wrote...

Without it the Asari Adept is basically useless on anything past bronze. There would be no reason to play as them.

You're all acting like I said "NERF THE BUBBLE!  NERF NERF NERF!"

I didn't say that.  I said, take a look at the balance of the game.  Some other abilities need buffed.  I repeat, Grenades probably shouldn't have limited use (maybe make this a final tier choice).  They should be on a recharge timer, preferably.  May not make a whole lot of sense, but balance doesn't have to make sense.  I'd rather have a balanced game than one that "makes sense" yet is imbalanced.  On Silver/Gold, going back constantly for grenades is annoying and honestly, if you're stuck somewhere, a class that has 3 recharge abilities is 33% more effective than a class with 2 recharges and a 3rd with limited use.

I'm sure there are other abilities that could be looked at.  At this point, though, the Bubble needs toned down.  Not removed.  Not nerfed into oblivion.  It just needs toned down.  Other abilities need to be brought up to be comparable.

[Bon3zz1001]

Sorry, but any attempts at "toning it down" from it's current place would make it completely useless; Thus making the Adept useless. That ability right there is the only reason to play the class. Without it, like I said, makes you useless on anything above bronze.

Modifié par Bon3zz1001, 20 février 2012 - 04:40 .

[Drakolyik]

Bon3zz1001 wrote...

Sorry, but any attempts at "toning it down" from it's current place would make it completely useless; Thus making the Adept useless. That ability right there is the only reason to play the class. Without it, like I said, makes you useless on anything above bronze.

You're bad, then.  If you rely entirely on one overpowering ability, then chances are, it's imbalanced and needs fixed.  Furthermore, your argument is insanely idiotic.  If you honestly believe that toning the bubble down, such as reduction in the duration of the bubble itself (so that you can't set up 3-4 different barriers of entry where everything gets stunned), will destroy the Asari Adept, then you're deluded.

[eldrjth]

although only a Demo so we only got to play against cerberus so far, I still think it should not work that well on high tier enemies given how spammable it is. it should not work at ALL on phantoms since a player can freeze 3 with no problems and I dont believe the phantoms were balanced around a single player able to snape freeze them making it a cakewalk. on the otherhand I think players should be able to escape melee attacks from the phantom by running away and not be pinned down. thats where I think the balance is wrong atm. the asari stasis trumps cerberus' most powerful troop handedly while others get walked over. also the lack of real skill to use it is another problem.

funny that someone said since the asari adept requires an unlock to use that that is the only balance thats required. since I think the opposite applies: classes that require an unlock should NOT be as powerful as the others since its available in fewer players hands further imbalancing it, though it wont take long until everyone has all unlocks anyway.

Modifié par eldrjth, 20 février 2012 - 04:55 .

[S.ilver]

Drakolyik wrote...

Bon3zz1001 wrote...

Sorry, but any attempts at "toning it down" from it's current place would make it completely useless; Thus making the Adept useless. That ability right there is the only reason to play the class. Without it, like I said, makes you useless on anything above bronze.

You're bad, then.  If you rely entirely on one overpowering ability, then chances are, it's imbalanced and needs fixed.  Furthermore, your argument is insanely idiotic.  If you honestly believe that toning the bubble down, such as reduction in the duration of the bubble itself (so that you can't set up 3-4 different barriers of entry where everything gets stunned), will destroy the Asari Adept, then you're deluded.

I screwed up an took the Vulnerability rank instead of Bubble; are you saying you can deploy multiple bubbles, and that they only fade after a set period of time (and don't get dispelled/replaced by new casts)? If so, I'd have to agree that is very broken. Singularity, which I'd argue is far less useful that stasis, has the 1 active singularity limit, it would be ridiculous if stasis bubble does not...

[LeonardoLuiz]

Asari vanguard also have Stasis.
Just saying.

[corporal doody]

LeonardoLuiz wrote...

Asari vanguard also have Stasis.
Just saying.

word! 

at this point people are complaining just for the sake of complaining...but that is nothing new. BSN has been a cesspool of hate and discontent. it disturbs me

[Drakolyik]

S.ilver wrote...

Drakolyik wrote...

Bon3zz1001 wrote...

Sorry, but any attempts at "toning it down" from it's current place would make it completely useless; Thus making the Adept useless. That ability right there is the only reason to play the class. Without it, like I said, makes you useless on anything above bronze.

You're bad, then.  If you rely entirely on one overpowering ability, then chances are, it's imbalanced and needs fixed.  Furthermore, your argument is insanely idiotic.  If you honestly believe that toning the bubble down, such as reduction in the duration of the bubble itself (so that you can't set up 3-4 different barriers of entry where everything gets stunned), will destroy the Asari Adept, then you're deluded.

I screwed up an took the Vulnerability rank instead of Bubble; are you saying you can deploy multiple bubbles, and that they only fade after a set period of time (and don't get dispelled/replaced by new casts)? If so, I'd have to agree that is very broken. Singularity, which I'd argue is far less useful that stasis, has the 1 active singularity limit, it would be ridiculous if stasis bubble does not...

Yes, you can literally set up 3-4 (maybe more if you just straight spam it) Bubble areas where they last for quite a while.  Not absolutely necessary, but if you're being bombarded at the LZ extraction point, you can essentially block off every assault point.  Nobody likes enemies that close in Silver/Gold, and Asari essentially can prevent enemies from getting near enough to be a nuisance.

Modifié par Drakolyik, 20 février 2012 - 05:01 .

[corporal doody]

say what? multiple stasis bubbles are an option? WHUH?

I somehow missed that!!  WOOOooooo

Modifié par corporal doody, 20 février 2012 - 05:02 .

[tomcruisejr]

Bon3zz1001 wrote...

Without it the Asari Adept is basically useless on anything past bronze. There would be no reason to play as them.

So you think human sentinel is useless as well? 

[tomcruisejr]

corporal doody wrote...

LeonardoLuiz wrote...

Asari vanguard also have Stasis.
Just saying.

word! 

at this point people are complaining just for the sake of complaining.. 

heh, if this goes live, expect more of it.

glaring imbalances will always incite tons of threads on the same subject.

[corporal doody]

tomcruisejr wrote...

Bon3zz1001 wrote...

Without it the Asari Adept is basically useless on anything past bronze. There would be no reason to play as them.

So you think human sentinel is useless as well? 

I DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN!!


NO....he means peanut butter and jelly go good on tacos. Thats what i inferred from his statement.

[tomcruisejr]

corporal doody wrote...

tomcruisejr wrote...

Bon3zz1001 wrote...

Without it the Asari Adept is basically useless on anything past bronze. There would be no reason to play as them.

So you think human sentinel is useless as well? 

I DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN!!


NO....he means peanut butter and jelly go good on tacos. Thats what i inferred from his statement.

Study the power sets and you'll realize why I said that...

[Raxxman]

You don't need the bubble to be useful you know.

I think you guys are too clutch on the bubble.

Adapt does enough damage from warp/throw combos with crazy low cooldowns to not be 'just a support'.

I was playing a level 11 adapt with a carnifex on gold and it too me till level 5 to realise we weren't rocking silver. Her utility is unmatched. She basically destroys every infantry unit cerb has, makes the very dangerous phantoms a none-issue. Status, headshot headshot headshot warpbomb, GG.

Can easily solo bronze with her, she is far far more effective than my level 20 solider, and has been since about level 6.

Other classes are fun, and 4 adepts on gold would be a bad idea. But playing without one is a handycap and this should be fixed.

And yeah the vanguard is going to be insane.

[corporal doody]

tomcruisejr wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

tomcruisejr wrote...

Bon3zz1001 wrote...

Without it the Asari Adept is basically useless on anything past bronze. There would be no reason to play as them.

So you think human sentinel is useless as well? 

I DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN!!


NO....he means peanut butter and jelly go good on tacos. Thats what i inferred from his statement.

Study the power sets and you'll realize why I said that...

YOU ARE the same dude that said human adept was a useless class....so i will pass

[tomcruisejr]

I almost wish I could make a money bet that asari adept will get nerfed.


oh how much i'd make.

[Trauma Hunter]

Female vangaurd would like to have a talk with you.

Charge -> double nova -> charge -> double nova. You are invincible until you stop to use your pistol on things like guardians. Guardians pose a bigger threat than an atlas or phantom most definitely.

[LeonardoLuiz]

I'm against this "Nerf"
Really just saying Asari Vanguard will be cool

[S.ilver]

Drakolyik wrote...

Yes, you can literally set up 3-4 (maybe more if you just straight spam it) Bubble areas where they last for quite a while.  Not absolutely necessary, but if you're being bombarded at the LZ extraction point, you can essentially block off every assault point.  Nobody likes enemies that close in Silver/Gold, and Asari essentially can prevent enemies from getting near enough to be a nuisance.

Uhh... yeah man... I'm hoping that's an oversight then, because that is vastly overpowering. Human Adepts can only have one Singularity at once. Engineers can only have one drone/turret at once. Having the ability to drop multiple persistant AoE effects around doesn't even make sense from a Lore perspective.

[snfonseka]

Thunderfurby wrote...

It's powerful yes, however unless you have decent team mates supporting the Adept it can go down really quickly, stasis bubble on its own isn't going to prevent you from being swarmed.

This is so true.

[CerberusSoldier]

Oh so lets make co op even harder no that is not fair to any of us . we all have a class choice in this game and if you Op feel its not what you do not like do not play it . Then do not play it . simple as that .