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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

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Because it's easier to write one story with no deviation than one story with little deviation.

This.


This.

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According to Game Informer, tIM doesn't want Shepard to destroy the Reapers because he wants to take control of them for himself.


Is this true or just sheer speculation? Of all the theories that.... has to be the worst. Hope it isn't that or BW.... I am disappoint.

Game Informer issue 226, pg 69:
"We reach the center of the facility and encounter the Illusive Man, the Cerberus leader, in his notorious hologram form. He threatens Shepard, telling her to stay out of his way.  When asked what he's after, he responds, "What I've always wanted." He explains that where Shepard and her allies seek to destroy the Reapers, Cerberus want to discover a way to control them and use their power to raise humanity's profile in the galaxy. The Illusive Man also makes a mysterious mention that he "doesn't need Shepard anymore." "

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Yeah, who'd want to make a working game with dozens upon dozens of choices along with memorable characters and a fantastic story.

*cough* Alpha Protocol *cough*


I loved AP, but it had very few lasting choices. You could get pretty much any ending directly IN the ending, your previous choices didn't matter.

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bobobo878 wrote...

Imbus1323 wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

According to Game Informer, tIM doesn't want Shepard to destroy the Reapers because he wants to take control of them for himself.


Is this true or just sheer speculation? Of all the theories that.... has to be the worst. Hope it isn't that or BW.... I am disappoint.

Game Informer issue 226, pg 69:
"We reach the center of the facility and encounter the Illusive Man, the Cerberus leader, in his notorious hologram form. He threatens Shepard, telling her to stay out of his way.  When asked what he's after, he responds, "What I've always wanted." He explains that where Shepard and her allies seek to destroy the Reapers, Cerberus want to discover a way to control them and use their power to raise humanity's profile in the galaxy. The Illusive Man also makes a mysterious mention that he "doesn't need Shepard anymore." "


Well that totally sounds like TiM.

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bobobo878 wrote...

Imbus1323 wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

According to Game Informer, tIM doesn't want Shepard to destroy the Reapers because he wants to take control of them for himself.


Is this true or just sheer speculation? Of all the theories that.... has to be the worst. Hope it isn't that or BW.... I am disappoint.

Game Informer issue 226, pg 69:
"Cerberus want to discover a way to control them and use their power to raise humanity's profile in the galaxy.  "


The illusive man is an idiot....

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D3MON-SOVER3IGN wrote...
The illusive man is an idiot....

I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but he's indoctrinated.  Keep in mind that unless you pass a tough speech check, Saren dies thinking that he was bringing peace between organics and reapers.  The reapers will let you believe whatever you want as long as your actions further their goals.

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Because Renegade Shepard is not evil. He/She wouldn't want to be associated with Cerberus after they aligned with the Reapers anyway.

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TIM = new Saren. I wouldn't be surprised if he redeems himself in the end with the right paragon or renegade dialogue.

And he instantly gets a renegade from me, I used up my paragon on saren, I don't suffer fools gladly and TIM is the biggest fool of the series.

I still get a laugh out of how some folk thought TIM and Shepard were gonna be best buddies, a man who will betray anyone to reach his goal.

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bobobo878 wrote...

D3MON-SOVER3IGN wrote...
The illusive man is an idiot....

I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but he's indoctrinated.  Keep in mind that unless you pass a tough speech check, Saren dies thinking that he was bringing peace between organics and reapers.  The reapers will let you believe whatever you want as long as your actions further their goals.


Maybe Shepard is indoctrinated...

think about it, the entire game we've been trying to gather ALL the galaxy's armies together. IN. ONE. PLACE. Where the Reapers could eliminate all military forces at one single place and time. No random resistance on planets or sudden new doomsday anti-reaper weapons developed during the course of the end-cycle. Everybody who could fight would be dead.

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Hellbound555 wrote...
Maybe Shepard is indoctrinated...
think about it, the entire game we've been trying to gather ALL the galaxy's armies together. IN. ONE. PLACE. Where the Reapers could eliminate all military forces at one single place and time. No random resistance on planets or sudden new doomsday anti-reaper weapons developed during the course of the end-cycle. Everybody who could fight would be dead.

Lmao, you aren't the first one to say so.  It would end with a battle in which you have to defeat all your squadmates at once when they realize what's happened to you.

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Imbus1323 wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

According to Game Informer, tIM doesn't want Shepard to destroy the Reapers because he wants to take control of them for himself.


Is this true or just sheer speculation? Of all the theories that.... has to be the worst. Hope it isn't that or BW.... I am disappoint.


I honestly considered that pretty likely considering we're discussing the same individual who had the sheer cajones to claim that Cerberus was Humanity.

TIM has a bit of a God complex from what I've seen of him. I would not be shocked to discover he was egotistical enough to think he and his fruty little club could pull that off.

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Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Dionkey wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Because it's easier to write one story with no deviation than one story with little deviation.

This.


This.

This

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[quote]GodWood wrote...

[quote]Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

[quote]Kaiser Shepard wrote...

[quote]Dionkey wrote...

[quote]Dave of Canada wrote...

Because it's easier to write one story with no deviation than one story with little deviation.[/quote]
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This.
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This.[/quote]This[/quote]This[/quote]

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ONE OF US

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With the progress Ambi is making he'll be handing Veetor and David over to Cerberus in no time.

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[quote]EternalAmbiguity wrote...

[quote]GodWood wrote...

[quote]Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

[quote]Kaiser Shepard wrote...

[quote]Dionkey wrote...

[quote]Dave of Canada wrote...

Because it's easier to write one story with no deviation than one story with little deviation.[/quote]
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This.
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This.[/quote]This[/quote]This[/quote]
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C-C-C-COMBOBREAKER!!

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[quote]EternalAmbiguity wrote...

[quote]GodWood wrote...

[quote]Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

[quote]Kaiser Shepard wrote...

[quote]Dionkey wrote...

[quote]Dave of Canada wrote...

Because it's easier to write one story with no deviation than one story with little deviation.[/quote]
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This.
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This.[/quote]This[/quote]This[/quote]
[/quote]I'm impressed by the original thought in these responses, bah! now ya gone and made me add to a pyramid, I need a shower.

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@GodWood & Seb: Never!

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[quote]DJBare wrote...

[quote]EternalAmbiguity wrote...

[quote]GodWood wrote...

[quote]Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

[quote]Kaiser Shepard wrote...

[quote]Dionkey wrote...

[quote]Dave of Canada wrote...

Because it's easier to write one story with no deviation than one story with little deviation.[/quote]
[/quote]
This.
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This.[/quote]This[/quote]This[/quote]
[/quote]I'm impressed by the original thought in these responses, bah! now ya gone and made me add to a pyramid, I need a shower.
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Embrace the indoctrination pyramid.

Broken pyramid, quotes dont work :(

Modifié par Adugan, 20 février 2012 - 06:57 .


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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

@GodWood & Seb: Never!


Give yourself up and be spared.

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Because Bioware's target audience can't handle moral ambiguity.

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Give yourself up and be spared.


The funny thing about it is I'm not renegade in the slightest.

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I'm want to be with Cerberus and I can't.

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khordlambert wrote...

Imbus1323 wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

According to Game Informer, tIM doesn't want Shepard to destroy the Reapers because he wants to take control of them for himself.


Is this true or just sheer speculation? Of all the theories that.... has to be the worst. Hope it isn't that or BW.... I am disappoint.


I honestly considered that pretty likely considering we're discussing the same individual who had the sheer cajones to claim that Cerberus was Humanity.

TIM has a bit of a God complex from what I've seen of him. I would not be shocked to discover he was egotistical enough to think he and his fruty little club could pull that off.


Yeah, kind of called it after seeing the Voice Actor trailer and Martin Sheen said we'd finally learn TIM's motives in this game.  The ONLY thing I hope about this segment where we learn this, is that there's an option where we agree with this idea.  I've got a female renegade Shepard with just as big of a god complex as TIM, and I'd like to see her be all "That's a good idea."     Seriously, I don't care if TIM is like "Glad you see things my way, Shepard, but I'm afraid I have to kill you regardless, for reasons unspecified."  I'll be happy as long as we aren't forced to have the same reaction regardless (as we were in Arrival, and seeing object Rho)

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...

Give yourself up and be spared.


The funny thing about it is I'm not renegade in the slightest.


Surprisingly I'm a Paragade.