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[lukex38]

since mass effect 1 its been building up too this, WAR with the reapers, across the galaxy, so ya there is going to be things blowing up, ITS WAR,
i loved the CGI trailer i thought it was EPIC, but i would love for a good story trailer though

[ramdog7]

It's war what do u expecting do...Talk the reapers to death

[lukex38]

ramdog7 wrote...

It's war what do u expecting do...Talk the reapers to death

WELL yea but only if you high enough paragon or renegade,

[What a Succulent Ass]

A war story doesn't have to be either (explosions) or (emotions). Why people are setting up this dichotomy is beyond me. You can make a trailer that is both character-focused and action-packed - and you can do it without spoiling anything.

It's not like this hasn't been done before.

Hell, you can find some decent amateur work on YouTube.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 20 février 2012 - 06:28 .

[hex23]

The series has been building up to a show down against the Reapers for the last two games. What exactly did you expect that to mean, besides all out war?

This is easily the most out of touch, whiny, self-entitled forum I've had the displeasure of browsing. You guys complain about literally EVERYTHING. I remember people whined about "ME2" wasn't like "ME1".....now I see some of the same people crying that "ME3" won't be like "ME2". Truth be told you guys don't know what the f*ck you want, and in the end what does it matter because you're just going to say "HERP DERP EA IS TO BLAME LOLZ" no matter what you're told.

And before someone says "oh, well, that's the nature of forums and the internet in general"....no, it's not. I've been using the internet since the 90s and this forum is by far the worst when it comes to this type of stuff.

The game is what it is. It's done. They aren't changing the marketing, or the FOV, or anything. If you are seriously this upset over it, don't buy it. And if you are upset enough not to buy it, I don't understand what there is to talk about.

[lukex38]

i dont get it, all these complaints, we know the outline story of mass effect 3 is kill reapers, save earth/galaxy, and we know alot of the characters already, why do you guys, want stuff that will spoil things for you, so i dont see a problem with having the trailers, like the CGI , being all action packed, unless your concern is that the story is going too be crap and you want too know if it is or not

[AtreiyaN7]

Thanks for sharing your personal pain there. *rolleyes* You're angry - so what? It doesn't quite warrant a post about how every little thing is like an emotional paper cut for you and that your soul is now bleeding profusely as a result.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 20 février 2012 - 09:22 .

[ElementL09]

Wasn't a bad trailer actually.

[lukex38]

hex23 wrote...

The series has been building up to a show down against the Reapers for the last two games. What exactly did you expect that to mean, besides all out war?

This is easily the most out of touch, whiny, self-entitled forum I've had the displeasure of browsing. You guys complain about literally EVERYTHING. I remember people whined about "ME2" wasn't like "ME1".....now I see some of the same people crying that "ME3" won't be like "ME2". Truth be told you guys don't know what the f*ck you want, and in the end what does it matter because you're just going to say "HERP DERP EA IS TO BLAME LOLZ" no matter what you're told.

And before someone says "oh, well, that's the nature of forums and the internet in general"....no, it's not. I've been using the internet since the 90s and this forum is by far the worst when it comes to this type of stuff.

The game is what it is. It's done. They aren't changing the marketing, or the FOV, or anything. If you are seriously this upset over it, don't buy it. And if you are upset enough not to buy it, I don't understand what there is to talk about.

i agrees

[Savber100]

You are depressed about an explosive, action-packed trailer for a game that is based on a massive galactic war against giant god machines.

...

Yeah.

[SliPaladin]

hex23 wrote...

The series has been building up to a show down against the Reapers for the last two games. What exactly did you expect that to mean, besides all out war?

This is easily the most out of touch, whiny, self-entitled forum I've had the displeasure of browsing. You guys complain about literally EVERYTHING. I remember people whined about "ME2" wasn't like "ME1".....now I see some of the same people crying that "ME3" won't be like "ME2". Truth be told you guys don't know what the f*ck you want, and in the end what does it matter because you're just going to say "HERP DERP EA IS TO BLAME LOLZ" no matter what you're told.

And before someone says "oh, well, that's the nature of forums and the internet in general"....no, it's not. I've been using the internet since the 90s and this forum is by far the worst when it comes to this type of stuff.

The game is what it is. It's done. They aren't changing the marketing, or the FOV, or anything. If you are seriously this upset over it, don't buy it. And if you are upset enough not to buy it, I don't understand what there is to talk about.

My hero

[KotorEffect3]

What don't people complain about anymore? The BSN lacks perspective it seems. Go anywhere else and people are loving it. Go to the BSN and you find people complaining.

[Darth Asriel]

OP- I can understand your feelings and unlike most people here I respect them. You are not alone in finding the marketing not showing the aspects that you enjoy. I myself have not really liked any if it, and have not hidden that fact.

However it is important to actually wait this one out. I'm going to get ME3 to see how my Shepard's story ends. At this point I am neither overly pessimistic or showering BW with praise. I only hope BW provides a great ending to this series. Take the game on it's own merits and judge it accordingly, not by what it's advertised to be.

To all the people shouting about how epic it all is. I would offer a counter point. 1)Blind faith in anything is dangerous. 2)I have never seen a COD trailer hyping story, character development, and choices to appeal to RPG gamers. They advertise to their audience. Not saying it's good or bad. Just food for thought.

[Errant_Geth]

I kind of want to throw out a Ghost in the Shell quote about the proletariat being out-of-touch with reality, and somehow that it mostly equals this OP, and these forums.

EDIT: To the above, a sermon about the danger of blind faith? Really? A little dramatic, to say the least.

Modifié par Errant_Geth, 20 février 2012 - 07:27 .

[Weskerr]

You never go wrong quoting Alexander Pope:

"Blessed is the man who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed."

He meant it more as a joke, but it is true nonetheless. Anyway, I'm with you on this OP. I'm also disappointed in what I'm seeing so far.

[Nageth]

Is this the first ME trailer with absolutely no talking or voice over?

[What a Succulent Ass]

Nageth wrote...

Is this the first ME trailer with absolutely no talking or voice over?

I think it might be.

But that's not necessarily a bad thing.

[swordmalice]

Hmm. Last time I checked the final game in the trilogy is about a galactic-scale war with the Reapers. I don't think a trailer about Shepard talking about his/her feelings or walking around the Citadel is going to portray a theme of WAR. For the sake of everything holy, put things into perspective dude.

[What a Succulent Ass]

swordmalice wrote...

Hmm. Last time I checked the final game in the trilogy is about a galactic-scale war with the Reapers. I don't think a trailer about Shepard talking about his/her feelings or walking around the Citadel is going to portray a theme of WAR. For the sake of everything holy, put things into perspective dude.

Again, stop creating false dichotomies.

[2484Stryker]

I rather liked that trailer, but I understand if you felt that it was overly action-orientated. I think at this point, it's better for you to simply stop watching trailers and reading spoilers - wait for March 6 and judge the game for yourself.

[swordmalice]

Random Jerkface wrote...

swordmalice wrote...

Hmm. Last time I checked the final game in the trilogy is about a galactic-scale war with the Reapers. I don't think a trailer about Shepard talking about his/her feelings or walking around the Citadel is going to portray a theme of WAR. For the sake of everything holy, put things into perspective dude.

Again, stop creating false dichotomies.

Alright; perhaps that was a bit polarizing, but the point I'm trying to make is: don't judge something based on a superficial view of it, i.e. the trailers. If you've got a bad feeling, that's fine, but don't damn the game to hell before you've had a chance to judge it first.

[byne]

matt-bassist wrote...

Sith Reaper wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

I don't like being negative, I'm generally a positive person, but with every bit of info I read/watch about ME3, I just get so angry and disappointed.  I'm sorry for being so negative but I went from having such high, positive expectations for this game (to bring the best of ME1 and ME2 and merge them together to form ME3), to getting depressed with each new info release.

this CGI trailer is the latest in a long line of depressing marketing for the game in an attempt to attract the KABOOM EXPLOSION kiddie crowd and i'm so sick of it now. It's just so obvious it's embarrasing for BioWare. I feel embarresed FOR BioWare. 

EA really has cut off your balls.

I'm angry. Sorry.

The CGI trailer we saw wasn't even in its complete form.

But really: is the CGI trailer from marketing really a cause to be upset? Let's calm down and wait for the actual game.

No way, it's a build up all various action-orientated marketing that ME3 has been going through for a while now. This CGI trailer was a chance for BioWare to create something really epic, emotional, adventurous and exciting - instead they opted for explosions, random fighting, an over-sexed Ashley and chaos. The reason I'm upset now is because it seems that this is what ME3 is going to be all about.

Because the CGI trailer for ME2 with Grunt getting swallowed by a thresher maw and then blowing it up from the inside and looking at the camera covered in its guts is the epitome of a story-driven trailer that fully represented the entire game in its finished form, amirite? I mean, I know that ME2 consisted pretty much only of fighting thresher maws and had literally no story. How do I know this? The CGI trailer said so, and it wouldnt lie, would it?

[What a Succulent Ass]

swordmalice wrote...

Alright; perhaps that was a bit polarizing, but the point I'm trying to make is: don't judge something based on a superficial view of it, i.e. the trailers. If you've got a bad feeling, that's fine, but don't damn the game to hell before you've had a chance to judge it first.

I'm inclined to agree with you.

On the other hand, I think BioWare has been holding themselves back when it comes to marketing Mass Effect. The focus on mindless action makes the games appear shallow, which is a discredit to the effort put into them. The "Distress Call" trailer is (in my opinion) the best piece of advertising to date; it was short and simple, but compelling and effective. I realise the game isn't marketed toward us, the current fans anymore (and really shouldn't be), but I don't see how making the game look derivative as possible does the franchise any services. Take Gears of War, for example, a series that this board just loves to complain about. The spots are both filled with action and emotionally charged, yet none of them spoil anything. Considering the wealth of its character and its expanse of the universe, Mass Effect would have even more to offer in this regard.

It doesn't affect my game or my opinion of the game, (and I don't think BioWare should change their marketing strategies to suit me) but it's an observation. Not even an issue. Just something I find curious.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 20 février 2012 - 08:22 .

[Farbautisonn]

Medhia Nox wrote....

Better to have NO expectations... and to understand that the ones you do have, were only given a value by you. In this manner - I think we begin to learn the folly of all our "expectations" - be they positive or negative.

 

-Having no expectations is BS bordering on zealotry. Every single one of us has expectations because we played a storydriven fps where we, the players, were the main character. The protagonist. The central figure.

We are used to stories, lore, insight, (some) roleplaying, with the violence being a means to an end, not an end in itself.

Im reminded of the debate that followed the release of Lucascraps prequals. Lucas pretty much alienated much of his original fanbase, the fathers and mothers of his new customerbase, by ruining his IP. Sure. It was his right. It was his property. But it turned into a cgi ****efest where the story took a backburner compared to character interaction, credibility, acting and anything else.

Thats what people like me are afraid of. An IP and a franchise we do love for its storytelling getting perverted into a "Mc CGI shoot'em'up". There are too many of those on the market allready.  We **** and moan because we care. If we didnt care, we would just ignore it. And then we wouldnt buy the products either, which would end up spelling doom for Bioware.