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lordlokai

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Actually multi-player itself is decent, hope to see more of it so what is my beef?

My favorite character is Wrex and his class and build/race was always Krogan vanguard so...i notice a distinct lack of krogan vanguards in demo i pray this changes by launch! it is hard to copy my fav ME toon with out some krogan vanguard!

/whiney post!

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minianthunter

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Wrex wasn't a Krogan vanguard.

He was a Krogan Battlemaster, which is extremely rare, don't expect one (or hundreds of thousands rather) to join the Special Forces.

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minianthunter wrote...

Wrex wasn't a Krogan vanguard.

He was a Krogan Battlemaster, which is extremely rare, don't expect one (or hundreds of thousands rather) to join the Special Forces.

Which is essentially a Vanguard.

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DRUNK_CANADIAN

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I don't know guys, my Wrex is essentially dead.

Winning.

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I can only assume they didn't toss a Krogan into the Vanguard ranks because of the idea that Krogan gifted with Biotic is quite rare.

If there were a large number of Krogan able to Biotic Charge all over the place (recharging their Barriers none the less), what could possibly stop them.

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lordlokai

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he was labeled a vanguard in first game, battlemaster was more of a title, and way i understood it biotics are implants... meaning anyone can get them, not everyone survives but i'd assume were plenty of krogan biotics when consider an entire race i don't feel like them excluding it was justified, regardless of reason is probably only complaint i'll ever have also are krogan sentinels which are basically biotics which shoots that train of thought in foot as well.

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SpaceAdmiral

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The Battlemaster in the first game was more resistant to damage at the expense of doing less damage.

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WizenSlinky0

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Sushi2k wrote...

minianthunter wrote...

Wrex wasn't a Krogan vanguard.

He was a Krogan Battlemaster, which is extremely rare, don't expect one (or hundreds of thousands rather) to join the Special Forces.

Which is essentially a Vanguard.


Hardly. He was a frontline fighter because he was a Krogan, not because he was a vanguard. His powers were actually geared more towards an adept. 

There are so, so, so many reasons why not to include a Krogan vanguard.

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minianthunter

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From the Mass effect Wikia

Urdnot Wrex[/b] is also one of the last Krogan Battlemasters: rare individuals who combine powerful biotic abilities with the devastating firepower of advanced weaponry.


On the Battlemasters page there are only 7 notable ones listed.  I wouldn't argue with you to having a krogan battlemaster if the genophage was out of the way and their reproduction rate was up (also increasing the number of krogan battlemasters through sheer brute forcing the probablilities).


lordlokai wrote...

he was labeled a vanguard in first game, battlemaster was more of a title


You can say that about pretty much every class.  My shepard was a Spectre but that was more of a title he's really just a juiced up soldier.

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Krogan Sentinel is basically Wrex with the added bonus of power armor. It's just not unlockable in the demo (as far as I can tell) and the powers are 'suck'. Believe we can customize, or at least pick from pre-set powers outside of the crap we're forced to deal with in the demo.

Seriously some of the power combinations in the demo scare me. I have yet to run into one where I think 'yeah, these are the 3 I'd take for this'. Just... dunno.

Either way, come the main game, and when i get to the multiplayer - that's what I plan to play as most of the time. A Krogan Sentinel with 2 biotic powers on my bumpers if I can. Probably throw and warp, if I can get Reave though - Reave and Throw.

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G3rman

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Balancing issues..Balancing.

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DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

I don't know guys, my Wrex is essentially dead.

Winning.

Same. Didnt like Wrex to much.

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Saturn706

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L2searchforums!!!

http://social.biowar...3/index/9258024 


"There will almost certainly be added content for the MP beyond the first release :) IVE SAID TOO MUCH."

-Jarrett Lee

He's from Bioware and the comment is on the first page! You're welcome!

Modifié par Saturn706, 20 février 2012 - 07:24 .


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G3rman

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Saturn706 wrote...

L2searchforums!!!
http://social.biowar...3/index/9258024

"There will almost certainly be added content for the MP beyond the first release :) IVE SAID TOO MUCH."

-Jarrett Lee


Its called DLC which was obvious.

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lordlokai wrote...

he was labeled a vanguard in first game, battlemaster was more of a title, and way i understood it biotics are implants... meaning anyone can get them, not everyone survives but i'd assume were plenty of krogan biotics when consider an entire race i don't feel like them excluding it was justified, regardless of reason is probably only complaint i'll ever have also are krogan sentinels which are basically biotics which shoots that train of thought in foot as well.


Biotics don't come from the implants - the implants only help people focus their abilitiy to manipulate mass effect fields with nodes on their nervous system. These nodes come about after any species comes into contact with eezo as a fetus - though there's a possibility of death or the nodes not developing fully. Krogan also had a surgery to give biotic abilities, but after the release of the genophage they stopped using it because of the high mortality rate.

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G3rman wrote...

Its called DLC which was obvious.


It's called answering his question of the lack of Krogan Vanguards

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in regards to balancing claim, they could simply made Biotic Charge unavailable to Krogan Vanguards, like how Asari Adept don't get Singularity and Quarian Engineer don't get Combat Drone.

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Saturn706 wrote...

G3rman wrote...

Its called DLC which was obvious.


It's called answering his question of the lack of Krogan Vanguards


Its not answering his question, he specifically said nothing about Krogans or Vanguards.

Its basically saying what devs always say, NEVER SAY NEVER.

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a krogan biotic would be sweet, but it is a rare rare rare awesome occurrence. Wrex is really, by codex and story, a rarity. reason being is that while krogans can be biotic, the mortality rate is insanely bad for krogans who try to be implanted. add that to the genophage already crippling their numbers, most krogan would avoid that and probably just move onto smashing things.

Even though Wrex was considered a Vanguard, he had warp, which is no longer a vanguard ability as far as i know. things change. he would fit more along the classifications of a sentinel or adept.

lets just say it's more rare than a krogan that likes turians. just ask grunt about that one ^_^

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I remember fighting a lot of Krogan biotics in ME2. Off the top of my head, they were in Garrus's recruitment, Mordin's loyalty, Grunt's loyalty and Jack's loyalty. I'm sure there were others, too.

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minianthunter wrote...

Wrex wasn't a Krogan vanguard.

He was a Krogan Battlemaster, which is extremely rare, don't expect one (or hundreds of thousands rather) to join the Special Forces.


Human biotics are described as very rare as well.

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WizenSlinky0 wrote...

There are so, so, so many reasons why not to include a Krogan vanguard.


Right...because having a Drell Vanguard makes so much more sense.