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[Arppis]

Tangster wrote...

count_4 wrote...

Tangster wrote...
 A bad vanguard is useless.

A bad anything is useless on gold. 
But that's what it comes down to: Every class is as useful as the player is skilled to handle it. Some classes are easier to handle than others, though.

Vanguard is more all or nothing though. You don't get a mediore vanguard even on silver, because they've normally ended up dead in the middle of a crwod of enemies. A mediocre vanguard won't get through gold, wheras a medocre sentinel or adept might.

Please do post this on "Vanguard hate" topic.

There are some people who claim Vanguard takes zero skill.

[Azjurai]

NYG1991 wrote...

Has anyone unlocked the revenant? If so, how is it

Depends on what you're using it for. For general fire it's not so great, low accuracy and so-so damage. But if you throw in extended heatsinks.. bullet hose rips down shields like nothing else and can lay down a crazy amount of suppressing fire. Jam that on one soldier and you can hold an entire area down with relative ease (even on gold) while your allies mop up and flank.

Wouldn't try sniping with it so much however :3

[Arppis]

Azjurai wrote...

NYG1991 wrote...

Has anyone unlocked the revenant? If so, how is it

Depends on what you're using it for. For general fire it's not so great, low accuracy and so-so damage. But if you throw in extended heatsinks.. bullet hose rips down shields like nothing else and can lay down a crazy amount of suppressing fire. Jam that on one soldier and you can hold an entire area down with relative ease (even on gold) while your allies mop up and flank.

Wouldn't try sniping with it so much however :3

Just the way LMG is suposed to be used.

[tomcruisejr]

what does sentinel bring to the table on gold, in your guys opinion.

[Aimi]

tomcruisejr wrote...

what does sentinel bring to the table on gold, in your guys opinion.

The turian Sentinel has high survivability, good weapons proficiency, the invaluable Overload, and the generally-useful Warp. Fantastic class.

[count_4]

Tangster wrote...
Vanguard is more all or nothing though. You don't get a mediore vanguard even on silver, because they've normally ended up dead in the middle of a crwod of enemies. A mediocre vanguard won't get through gold, wheras a medocre sentinel or adept might.

You do have a point there.

[CDRSkyShepard]

JeffZero wrote...

My friends can probably testify that my Soldier's ability to provide suppressing fire and knock enemies down to the ground with high speeds via a leveled and spammable Concussive Shot would probably keep him from being considered useless on Gold.

Your Soldier is anything but useless. Annoying at times (when you be rockin' everyone's world when I'm trying to headshot them...LOL), but definitely not useless. You take down Guardians like it's your job. 

[Bandit monkey]

The quarian engineer is probaly my favorite class or a human infiltraitor. Did'nt like human soldier on any difficulty. Everyone has a class that fits there play style.

[Arppis]

jreezy wrote...

stgrey wrote...

Your ideas?
For me it's all soldiers. sentinels, vanguards,  quarian engineer.

Sentinels? I can't take this seriously.

Or Soldiers... Heck even Vanguards?! What the hell? Maybe Drell Vanguard because of low HP, but not the human one.

[Bravo0o]

AlphaDormante wrote...

stgrey wrote...

Your ideas?
For me it's all soldiers. sentinels, vanguards,  quarian engineer.

That's like...75% of the classes.

Actually that's 54% of all classes....

My work here is done.

[redafro]

G3rman wrote...

Quarian engineer.

it all depends, quarian engeneers can be very usefull, it depends on how much overload you already have, if your counting on your engi to overload then yeah a quarian is not the best choice, if you already have 1/2 others overloading stuff then a quarian engi can be awsome. don't forget cryo freezes unprotected oponents and weakens armor

[Bandit monkey]

Quarian engineers don't have overload.

[redafro]

Bandit monkey wrote...

Quarian engineers don't have overload.

that's wy i said that quarian is usefull when you have other people using overload

[Bandit monkey]

Oh, my bad.

[stgrey]

redafro wrote...

G3rman wrote...

Quarian engineer.

it all depends, quarian engeneers can be very usefull, it depends on how much overload you already have, if your counting on your engi to overload then yeah a quarian is not the best choice, if you already have 1/2 others overloading stuff then a quarian engi can be awsome. don't forget cryo freezes unprotected oponents and weakens armor

Definatelly - unprotected targets. Do you have much of them on gold? Much better is asari adept for this purpose. Bubble is beautifull for freezing phantoms, specially with 150% incoming damage debuff. Also warp helps with damage. I don't see much options for using throw, but it's my bad skill.

[xcrunr1647]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Anyone who cannot Cloak or use Stasis is useless on Gold.

False

Soldiers are very useful, it's just that 90% of them (maybe more) are terribad. And Engineers have some of the best utility around. 

Maybe your teammates were just bad ^.^

[Jestina]

As an engineer you should be sitting back, causing distractions and softening up the enemy where needed.

[CROAT_56]

my soldier when running just an avenger cuz im not lucky can pop off four concusive shots in less than 5 seconds so it helps keep those pesky phantoms away

[redafro]

stgrey wrote...

redafro wrote...

G3rman wrote...

Quarian engineer.

it all depends, quarian engeneers can be very usefull, it depends on how much overload you already have, if your counting on your engi to overload then yeah a quarian is not the best choice, if you already have 1/2 others overloading stuff then a quarian engi can be awsome. don't forget cryo freezes unprotected oponents and weakens armor

Definatelly - unprotected targets. Do you have much of them on gold? Much better is asari adept for this purpose. Bubble is beautifull for freezing phantoms, specially with 150% incoming damage debuff. Also warp helps with damage. I don't see much options for using throw, but it's my bad skill.

true enough, asari adept is more usefull for that purpose was just pointing out that in the right team and the right hands quarian engi is not useless tough i suppose that quarian engi's will become a lot more usefull against other types of enemys that don't  have so much shields and barriers like husks

[SgtPepper667]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

My friends can probably testify that my Soldier's ability to provide suppressing fire and knock enemies down to the ground with high speeds via a leveled and spammable Concussive Shot would probably keep him from being considered useless on Gold.

Your Soldier is anything but useless. Annoying at times (when you be rockin' everyone's world when I'm trying to headshot them...LOL), but definitely not useless. You take down Guardians like it's your job. 

Pretty much this. His Solider is badass.

[xcrunr1647]

Jestina wrote...

As an engineer you should be sitting back, causing distractions and softening up the enemy where needed.

YES!

Overload shields (human), Cryo Blast (Quarian), Incinerate armor/health, and make sure your drone has 100% uptime.

Engineers are a support class, not a "RAWRMELEE" class like a Krogan or Vanguard.

Finally, someone else who understands this.

[Kakaw]

Ima come out and say it.. Drell needs a stronger barrier. Specially for a vanguard, 250 barrier is not enough. With charge as the damaging biotic power, leaping towards an enemy (or enemies) and pop up with 125-250 barrier is laughable (up to 388 with max upgrades). Basically Asari have twice the survivability. It almost works, for the drell, as a medium ranged caster, because of his speed and dodge, but then it doesn't, as a vanguard isn't medium ranged ^^. Atleast he can kill the unshielded assault guys by detonating his own pulls! Obviously I haven't tested enough, but 500 barrier at fully upgrades could not be too much to ask for, could it?

I can't wait to try out the drell adept! (I hope reave detonates pull, else he'll be the only caster without detonate.) After playing drell once, I feel like I can't go back, due to the amazing speed and agility of the drell ^^ (but again, for gold, speed is not enough. Needs more strength/survivability).

I mean, he is great at dodging Phantoms. Once they pop out their blades in his face, he just backflips out, no foul. But actually killing a phantom, in gold? Nah. Atleast not in public games. It might help to give Drells a flat barrier increase when specializing in powers, rather than a percentage. Cause a percentage of nothing is nothing. (or just buff the % numbers to compensate)

Modifié par Kakaw, 20 février 2012 - 01:11 .

[Merchant2006]

stgrey wrote...

Your ideas?
For me it's all soldiers. sentinels, vanguards,  quarian engineer.

http://cloud.steampo...6DCD1AACEA0510/

Human Infiltrator, Quarian Engineer, Human Vanguard, Asari Adept



Asari Adept, Human Vanguard, Human Sentinel, Human Infiltrator

Unfortunately my Krogan soldier build was stupid and I couldn't respect it :\\ but there you have it.

We've yet to try out the Salarian Infiltrator, Drell Vanguard, Human & Krogan Soldier, Turian Sentinel and Human Adept.

The Human Adept would be brilliant for non-stop warps and CC. The Turian Sentinel with his Overload & Warp is the best as it compliments everyone elses abilities and can shred defences with super ease and the Krogan Soldier with Max Rage (Health & Armor) with Carnage maxxed would make short work of enemies at close range and he can take a lot of damage.

As for the Human Soldier, perhaps that would be different but he can take a lot of damage which is good. Also the Drell Vanguard is the only one I would say that I'm not too keen on. Definately needs more barriers on Gold. Even on Silver the Drell Vanguard's defences get shredded fast. So I agree, the Human Soldier (if he is not built correctly) isn't the best choice but the Drell Vanguard is the worst on the list for me.

Modifié par Merchant2006, 20 février 2012 - 12:23 .