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#51
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Lucas-Shepard wrote...

On a related note, I have heard we're getting DLC so that you can play the game in first person - it will ofcourse apply to all installments in the franchise.


I read it somewhere about a year ago, I have absolutely no scources, but I vividly recall reading it over and over to be sure.


trolololol :D

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

Dunno why OP felt like continuing this. What you describe has never been said by any dev EVER. The entire concept is fairly close to impossible. The ME team was scrambling to finish ME3. They worked crazy hours during crunch. The idea that they would then spend thousands more hours recreating all the content for ME1 & ME2, is ridiculous.

And it cannot be restated enough, but this was NOT EVER discussed. You clearly misunderstood something that was said. No one else in this thread or the one last night is playing a trick on you. It just didn't happen.


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@OP Dude, get it through your thick head, THIS...IS.....NOT....POSSIBLE.

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

Dunno why OP felt like continuing this. What you describe has never been said by any dev EVER. The entire concept is fairly close to impossible. The ME team was scrambling to finish ME3. They worked crazy hours during crunch. The idea that they would then spend thousands more hours recreating all the content for ME1 & ME2, is ridiculous.

And it cannot be restated enough, but this was NOT EVER discussed. You clearly misunderstood something that was said. No one else in this thread or the one last night is playing a trick on you.


I continued it because no one understood what I was saying, because they were taking it so literally. Or, did you not read my very first statement? Geezus. Why are you asking a question that was clearly answered? 

And again, it was a year ago. I've made it very clear that it obviously doesn't help that I don't have sources. But this is what I read, and it's stupid I'm getting attacked for it by people calling me mental, etc, for reading something and getting excited about it. And wanting to know if it was still being implemented. 

Did it ever occur to any of you, that maybe they were going to do it? But it turned out not to be feesible, so they cut it? And just stopped promoting the idea? 

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ziloe wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

Dunno why OP felt like continuing this. What you describe has never been said by any dev EVER. The entire concept is fairly close to impossible. The ME team was scrambling to finish ME3. They worked crazy hours during crunch. The idea that they would then spend thousands more hours recreating all the content for ME1 & ME2, is ridiculous.

And it cannot be restated enough, but this was NOT EVER discussed. You clearly misunderstood something that was said. No one else in this thread or the one last night is playing a trick on you.


I continued it because no one understood what I was saying, because they were taking it so literally. Or, did you not read my very first statement? Geezus. Why are you asking a question that was clearly answered? 

And again, it was a year ago. I've made it very clear that it obviously doesn't help that I don't have sources. But this is what I read, and it's stupid I'm getting attacked for it by people calling me mental, etc, for reading something and getting excited about it. And wanting to know if it was still being implemented. 

Did it ever occur to any of you, that maybe they were going to do it? But it turned out not to be feesible, so they cut it? And just stopped promoting the idea? 


What your not understading is something that BIG would be EVERYWHERE, everyone would have known about it, they would have annoucened it etc, NONE OF THIS HAPPENED, please get it in your head.

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ziloe wrote...

Did it ever occur to any of you, that maybe they were going to do it? But it turned out not to be feesible, so they cut it? And just stopped promoting the idea? 


Nope. That had never occurred to me. Because it didn't happen. And if it did, in the age of the internet, you should be able to find proof of it. So stop making yourself look even sillier and either post proof or drop this.

All these people are telling you that this didn't happen. Why are they doing that? To make you crazy? No. Because it's the truth. Somehow of all the poeple on the BSN, who have been tracking  news about this game like bloodhounds, only you are aware of this? No.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 20 février 2012 - 04:36 .


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Where is this interview, Ziloe? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I think what you aren't understanding are the technical obstacles that would prevent Bioware from simply updating the graphics and totally changing the combat system of two enormous games released years ago on completely different engines.

Modifié par tch2296, 20 février 2012 - 04:36 .


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tch2296 wrote...

Where is this interview, Ziloe? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I think what you aren't understanding are the technical obstacles that would prevent Bioware from simply updating the graphics and totally changing the combat system of two enormous games released years ago on completely different engines.


I don't see it being impossible at all. They would just need to improve textures and alter animations and combat mechanics. They've done this a dozen times for smaller games such as Lunar Star Story. So why not this too? 

And again, you guys think I didn't look? I did. Couldn't find anything. But I remember reading it and that's why I cam here. I was hoping someone else knew what I was referring to. Instead, it was nice to experience insults, and people just attacking my sanity, rather than being at all empathetic and admitting that it would be sweet to have, because we all know what its like having to play an old game, when things have been improved ten fold.

Modifié par ziloe, 20 février 2012 - 04:41 .


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ziloe wrote...

tch2296 wrote...

Where is this interview, Ziloe? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I think what you aren't understanding are the technical obstacles that would prevent Bioware from simply updating the graphics and totally changing the combat system of two enormous games released years ago on completely different engines.


I don't see it being impossible at all. They would just need to improve textures and alter animations and combat mechanics. They've done this a dozen times for smaller games such as Lunar Star Story. So why not this too? 

When they did it for Lunar Star Story, it was about the same amount of work as creating a new game. So they had to sell it, they didn't just give it away for free.

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ziloe wrote...

tch2296 wrote...

Where is this interview, Ziloe? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I think what you aren't understanding are the technical obstacles that would prevent Bioware from simply updating the graphics and totally changing the combat system of two enormous games released years ago on completely different engines.


I don't see it being impossible at all. They would just need to improve textures and alter animations and combat mechanics. They've done this a dozen times for smaller games such as Lunar Star Story. So why not this too? 


Trolololololololol

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And again, you guys think I didn't look? I did. Couldn't find anything. But I remember reading it and that's why I cam here. I was hoping someone else knew what I was referring to. Instead, it was nice to experience insults, and people just attacking my sanity, rather than being at all empathetic and admitting that it would be sweet to have, because we all know what its like having to play an old game, when things have been improved ten fold.

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Taleroth wrote...

ziloe wrote...

tch2296 wrote...

Where is this interview, Ziloe? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I think what you aren't understanding are the technical obstacles that would prevent Bioware from simply updating the graphics and totally changing the combat system of two enormous games released years ago on completely different engines.


I don't see it being impossible at all. They would just need to improve textures and alter animations and combat mechanics. They've done this a dozen times for smaller games such as Lunar Star Story. So why not this too? 

When they did it for Lunar Star Story, it was about the same amount of work as creating a new game. So they had to sell it, they didn't just give it away for free.


And again, that's why I suggested it was maybe DLC, or that they scrapped it because it wasn't feasible. 

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ziloe wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

ziloe wrote...

tch2296 wrote...

Where is this interview, Ziloe? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I think what you aren't understanding are the technical obstacles that would prevent Bioware from simply updating the graphics and totally changing the combat system of two enormous games released years ago on completely different engines.


I don't see it being impossible at all. They would just need to improve textures and alter animations and combat mechanics. They've done this a dozen times for smaller games such as Lunar Star Story. So why not this too? 

When they did it for Lunar Star Story, it was about the same amount of work as creating a new game. So they had to sell it, they didn't just give it away for free.


And again, that's why I suggested it was maybe DLC, or that they scrapped it because it wasn't feasible. 


An entire remastered game over 6gb as DLC, love it

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I believe you just have selective reading. Nobody really insulting you. Just stating that you're incorrect and this wouldn't be feasible.

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There's no need to insult the OP over this. Its just not necessary.

OP: you're remembering something that you misinterpreted a year ago. Bioware would never have said this because its immediately apparent that it simply isn't feasible without 4 to 5 discs. Its not something they would have considered, spoken about and then realised was virtually impossible - they'd have realised almost instantly that its almost impossible to do. They would never have mentioned it to any interviewer as something like this would never leave the room it was brought up in. Also, even if this were a consideration, they wouldn't make people play through ME3 to be able to access updated versions of the previous games.

It seems that you misread an article from a year ago, and are now misinterpreting your memory of what you misread. This isn't something Bioware has ever spoken about, and it isn't something that Bioware would ever speak about - if it ever was an idea, it would've been apparent within minutes that it wasn't feasible. It would never have been considered long enough to have been brought up in an interview. Besides, someone else would've read it as well. There was no mention of anything like this a year ago, and there hasn't been since.

I'm not sure why some people here felt the need to insult you, but you are mistaken.

IMO its too early to consider re-makes anyway. Frankly, unless its at least 10 years old, it doesn't need remaking. There would be no point remaking/updating a game that came out 2 years ago.

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I will say this till the end of time. NEVER HAPPENED. They never said it, they never suggested it, they never implied it. You are mistaken. And since you cannot provide any evidence at all, no one has any reason whatsoever to believe you. YOU. ARE. WRONG.

Still trying to be polite, but this is just silly at this point.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 20 février 2012 - 04:45 .


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mgoss wrote...

I believe you just have selective reading. Nobody really insulting you. Just stating that you're incorrect and this wouldn't be feasible.


Uhh, read the comments. People are calling me mental, etc. I'm trying to be quite civil, and even if I'm wrong, not once has anyone at least admitted that they'd actually like the idea, despite the costs. 

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ziloe wrote...

mgoss wrote...

I believe you just have selective reading. Nobody really insulting you. Just stating that you're incorrect and this wouldn't be feasible.


Uhh, read the comments. People are calling me mental, etc. I'm trying to be quite civil, and even if I'm wrong, not once has anyone at least admitted that they'd actually like the idea, despite the costs. 


I've not called you anything but silly. Starting this thread again was an invitation to be trolled, though.

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ziloe wrote...

mgoss wrote...

I believe you just have selective reading. Nobody really insulting you. Just stating that you're incorrect and this wouldn't be feasible.


Uhh, read the comments. People are calling me mental, etc. I'm trying to be quite civil, and even if I'm wrong, not once has anyone at least admitted that they'd actually like the idea, despite the costs. 


no ones actually called you mental though? all we are doing is telling you that you are wrong, nothing more nothing less

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There's no need to insult the OP over this. Its just not necessary.

OP: you're remembering something that you misinterpreted a year ago. Bioware would never have said this because its immediately apparent that it simply isn't feasible without 4 to 5 discs. Its not something they would have considered, spoken about and then realised was virtually impossible - they'd have realised almost instantly that its almost impossible to do. They would never have mentioned it to any interviewer as something like this would never leave the room it was brought up in. Also, even if this were a consideration, they wouldn't make people play through ME3 to be able to access updated versions of the previous games.

It seems that you misread an article from a year ago, and are now misinterpreting your memory of what you misread. This isn't something Bioware has ever spoken about, and it isn't something that Bioware would ever speak about - if it ever was an idea, it would've been apparent within minutes that it wasn't feasible. It would never have been considered long enough to have been brought up in an interview. Besides, someone else would've read it as well. There was no mention of anything like this a year ago, and there hasn't been since.

I'm not sure why some people here felt the need to insult you, but you are mistaken.

IMO its too early to consider re-makes anyway. Frankly, unless its at least 10 years old, it doesn't need remaking. There would be no point remaking/updating a game that came out 2 years ago.


As I said, when I read it way back, I was excited about it. It's one reason I didn't replay my game, because I thought, hey, I can wait it out and play renegade for the New Game Plus. Nevertheless, I get what you're saying, but I do remember reading this. Maybe it was from a smaller interviewing site, and that's why it didn't get much hubbub. And who's to say the actual interviewer didn't misinterpret it? 

Despite that, it's just unfortunate that people here can't even admit that they'd like the idea. We have all played a series, I think, and thought to ourselves that it would be nice to replay the older games with the new features, no? Am I wrong? 

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Gongon11 wrote...

ziloe wrote...

mgoss wrote...

I believe you just have selective reading. Nobody really insulting you. Just stating that you're incorrect and this wouldn't be feasible.


Uhh, read the comments. People are calling me mental, etc. I'm trying to be quite civil, and even if I'm wrong, not once has anyone at least admitted that they'd actually like the idea, despite the costs. 


no ones actually called you mental though? all we are doing is telling you that you are wrong, nothing more nothing less


What do you call this?

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ziloe wrote...

Gongon11 wrote...

ziloe wrote...

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The OP is not trolling.

He is, however, wrong. Bioware never stated this. OP, you obviously misinterpreted something Bioware said - they have never even hinted at the idea of a new game+ mode that includes all three games remastered.


Thank you. 

However, as I said, this was a year ago, and I remember being quite excited at the idea. I do remember reading it over too, just to make sure I wasn't wrong. Obviously it doesn't help my case that I don't have the source, but I tried to avoid the forums as much as I could. I spoilt DA2 too much for myself, which is why I've only come back here recently, and only to clarify a few points I was curious about, since I haven't played in some time. At any rate, this is what I remember them saying. Maybe it didn't  go viral enough, but I remember it being said. 


if they really did say what your saying it would have blown up, like we have all said before, you have just misunderstood, there is no way they can have all three games on one dvd


It's not one DVD though. It's two. And again, are you guys seriously going to cut down an idea, all because you don't think it can be done? Where are the people who, even though hesitant, LIKE the idea? I mean, c'mon!

Would be nice to hear from a Dev at this point. 



What do you mean 'Its not one its two' the entire ME trilogy would take up 5 disks....5!

You probably wont hear from a dev as you are being mental



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OP, if you had created a thread where you asked people to comment on a hypothetical, you likely would have gotten a response. But that's not what you did. You created a thread based on a something that did not happen. And then when informed of that, your repeatedly refused to accept that. It's not really shocking that people reacted to the negatively.

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ziloe wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

There's no need to insult the OP over this. Its just not necessary.

OP: you're remembering something that you misinterpreted a year ago. Bioware would never have said this because its immediately apparent that it simply isn't feasible without 4 to 5 discs. Its not something they would have considered, spoken about and then realised was virtually impossible - they'd have realised almost instantly that its almost impossible to do. They would never have mentioned it to any interviewer as something like this would never leave the room it was brought up in. Also, even if this were a consideration, they wouldn't make people play through ME3 to be able to access updated versions of the previous games.

It seems that you misread an article from a year ago, and are now misinterpreting your memory of what you misread. This isn't something Bioware has ever spoken about, and it isn't something that Bioware would ever speak about - if it ever was an idea, it would've been apparent within minutes that it wasn't feasible. It would never have been considered long enough to have been brought up in an interview. Besides, someone else would've read it as well. There was no mention of anything like this a year ago, and there hasn't been since.

I'm not sure why some people here felt the need to insult you, but you are mistaken.

IMO its too early to consider re-makes anyway. Frankly, unless its at least 10 years old, it doesn't need remaking. There would be no point remaking/updating a game that came out 2 years ago.


As I said, when I read it way back, I was excited about it. It's one reason I didn't replay my game, because I thought, hey, I can wait it out and play renegade for the New Game Plus. Nevertheless, I get what you're saying, but I do remember reading this. Maybe it was from a smaller interviewing site, and that's why it didn't get much hubbub. And who's to say the actual interviewer didn't misinterpret it? 

Despite that, it's just unfortunate that people here can't even admit that they'd like the idea. We have all played a series, I think, and thought to ourselves that it would be nice to replay the older games with the new features, no? Am I wrong? 


not really, mass effect 1 is perfect how it is in my eyes, no need to remake things for a quick cash grab, plus mass effect 2 and mass effect 3 are hardly that far apart in terms of gameplay and graphics.

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 Geez, it's not enough that all the people posting here is telling you it's wrong and it never was stated at all?
You still go on your crusade for the all mighty one who wrote down that it would indeed happen! 

:mellow::unsure: :? <_<

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ziloe wrote...

Gongon11 wrote...

ziloe wrote...

mgoss wrote...

I believe you just have selective reading. Nobody really insulting you. Just stating that you're incorrect and this wouldn't be feasible.


Uhh, read the comments. People are calling me mental, etc. I'm trying to be quite civil, and even if I'm wrong, not once has anyone at least admitted that they'd actually like the idea, despite the costs. 


no ones actually called you mental though? all we are doing is telling you that you are wrong, nothing more nothing less


What do you call this?

Exia001 wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Gongon11 wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

The OP is not trolling.

He is, however, wrong. Bioware never stated this. OP, you obviously misinterpreted something Bioware said - they have never even hinted at the idea of a new game+ mode that includes all three games remastered.


Thank you. 

However, as I said, this was a year ago, and I remember being quite excited at the idea. I do remember reading it over too, just to make sure I wasn't wrong. Obviously it doesn't help my case that I don't have the source, but I tried to avoid the forums as much as I could. I spoilt DA2 too much for myself, which is why I've only come back here recently, and only to clarify a few points I was curious about, since I haven't played in some time. At any rate, this is what I remember them saying. Maybe it didn't  go viral enough, but I remember it being said. 


if they really did say what your saying it would have blown up, like we have all said before, you have just misunderstood, there is no way they can have all three games on one dvd


It's not one DVD though. It's two. And again, are you guys seriously going to cut down an idea, all because you don't think it can be done? Where are the people who, even though hesitant, LIKE the idea? I mean, c'mon!

Would be nice to hear from a Dev at this point. 



What do you mean 'Its not one its two' the entire ME trilogy would take up 5 disks....5!

You probably wont hear from a dev as you are being mental


i call that pure fact, since at this point after being told countless times that your wrong you still believe your right because you read something a year ago and take it as fact without being able to find any proof or anything.

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ziloe wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

There's no need to insult the OP over this. Its just not necessary.

OP: you're remembering something that you misinterpreted a year ago. Bioware would never have said this because its immediately apparent that it simply isn't feasible without 4 to 5 discs. Its not something they would have considered, spoken about and then realised was virtually impossible - they'd have realised almost instantly that its almost impossible to do. They would never have mentioned it to any interviewer as something like this would never leave the room it was brought up in. Also, even if this were a consideration, they wouldn't make people play through ME3 to be able to access updated versions of the previous games.

It seems that you misread an article from a year ago, and are now misinterpreting your memory of what you misread. This isn't something Bioware has ever spoken about, and it isn't something that Bioware would ever speak about - if it ever was an idea, it would've been apparent within minutes that it wasn't feasible. It would never have been considered long enough to have been brought up in an interview. Besides, someone else would've read it as well. There was no mention of anything like this a year ago, and there hasn't been since.

I'm not sure why some people here felt the need to insult you, but you are mistaken.

IMO its too early to consider re-makes anyway. Frankly, unless its at least 10 years old, it doesn't need remaking. There would be no point remaking/updating a game that came out 2 years ago.


As I said, when I read it way back, I was excited about it. It's one reason I didn't replay my game, because I thought, hey, I can wait it out and play renegade for the New Game Plus. Nevertheless, I get what you're saying, but I do remember reading this. Maybe it was from a smaller interviewing site, and that's why it didn't get much hubbub. And who's to say the actual interviewer didn't misinterpret it? 

Despite that, it's just unfortunate that people here can't even admit that they'd like the idea. We have all played a series, I think, and thought to ourselves that it would be nice to replay the older games with the new features, no? Am I wrong? 

Either you're wrong or the interviewer was wrong. Although chances are that if this was mentioned in an article someone would've picked up on it - BSN overanalyses everything ME related.

Also, I think its because its not that great of an idea. The games are 5 and 2 years old respectively - they don't need to be re-made or updated. Re-working the gameplay of ME1 and ME2 would require an awful lot of work - in ME1's case they'd pretty much have to re-make the entire game - and I think most people would rather see that work spent on something new. Maybe in 10-15 years, an ME trilogy re-make would start to look very enticing, but atm its just not necessary.