first look at alliance dreadnought in take earth back trailer
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locowolfie
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#26
Posté 21 février 2012 - 12:22
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I dont see how these are not dreadnoughts. Besides it would not be the first lore change in the ME universe if dreadnoughts can now fly and fight in atmo. But imho I am right and these are dreadnoughts. Making them not wanting to be dusnt make it so.you asked for pic's now thereare pic's (thank goodness)
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Posté 21 février 2012 - 12:24
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well they aint the first look at them.locowolfie wrote...
I dont see how these are not dreadnoughts. Besides it would not be the first lore change in the ME universe if dreadnoughts can now fly and fight in atmo. But imho I am right and these are dreadnoughts. Making them not wanting to be dusnt make it so.you asked for pic's now thereare pic's (thank goodness)
if your talking first look ever theyre in the first mass effect game.
if your talking first look at them in ME3 theyre in the demshep trailer atleast
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Posté 21 février 2012 - 12:27
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GnusmasTHX wrote...
Yep looking at more stuff, this image is right
..Turian ships are so much cooler than Alliance ships, goddamn.
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Posté 21 février 2012 - 12:28
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Rabbidsquirrel88 wrote...
Even if they could, it would be stupid to commit a dreadnought to an atmospheric attack. They are not very maneuverable and fire their main guns off from stand off range.
Also, the larger ships basically are in a battle of heat buildup. You cannot dissipate heat in ~60 degree atmosphere as fast as sub-zero vaccum of space.
I do not think we have seen a dreadnought quite yet...
Actually, that's not correct. It's actually EASIER to cool something in atmosphere where you have a fluid medium in contact with your radiators that can transfer the heat through thermal conduction, and carry it away rapidly through convection. In space, you are limited strictly to radiation. The one problem I see is that you do NOT want to vent molten sodium until the atmosphere as an emergency heat dump.
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Posté 21 février 2012 - 12:35
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John Locke N7 wrote...
well they aint the first look at them.locowolfie wrote...
I dont see how these are not dreadnoughts. Besides it would not be the first lore change in the ME universe if dreadnoughts can now fly and fight in atmo. But imho I am right and these are dreadnoughts. Making them not wanting to be dusnt make it so.you asked for pic's now thereare pic's (thank goodness)
if your talking first look ever theyre in the first mass effect game.
if your talking first look at them in ME3 theyre in the demshep trailer atleast
No its nether in ME1 or in the femshep trailer.
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Posté 21 février 2012 - 12:36
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If they are dreadnoughts I'll just put it down to artistic licence for the trailer and hope the game itself gets it right.
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Posté 21 février 2012 - 12:39
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John Locke N7 wrote...
well they aint the first look at them.locowolfie wrote...
I dont see how these are not dreadnoughts. Besides it would not be the first lore change in the ME universe if dreadnoughts can now fly and fight in atmo. But imho I am right and these are dreadnoughts. Making them not wanting to be dusnt make it so.you asked for pic's now thereare pic's (thank goodness)
if your talking first look ever theyre in the first mass effect game.
if your talking first look at them in ME3 theyre in the demshep trailer atleast
No its nether in ME1 or in the femshep trailer.
#33
Posté 21 février 2012 - 12:40
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Yeah, those are definitely dreadnaughts, but I think it's kind of lame that they're basically just bigger cruisers.
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Posté 21 février 2012 - 12:50
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I think those might be Carriers.
Im thinking this because they have no noticable axial gun, but a large opening by the looks of it in the front of them. Also Carriers are much more numerious in the Alliance Navy.
But..If it is a dreadnaught, then maybe the reason it looks the way that does is because the main gun must not stick out and be recessed inside that black opening in the front of them.
Im thinking this because they have no noticable axial gun, but a large opening by the looks of it in the front of them. Also Carriers are much more numerious in the Alliance Navy.
But..If it is a dreadnaught, then maybe the reason it looks the way that does is because the main gun must not stick out and be recessed inside that black opening in the front of them.
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Posté 21 février 2012 - 12:56
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Carriers in the atmosphere would be even sillier. What on earth would they be doing?
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Posté 21 février 2012 - 01:00
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Ajosraa wrote...
I think those might be Carriers.
Im thinking this because they have no noticable axial gun, but a large opening by the looks of it in the front of them. Also Carriers are much more numerious in the Alliance Navy.
But..If it is a dreadnaught, then maybe the reason it looks the way that does is because the main gun must not stick out and be recessed inside that black opening in the front of them.
How do they have no axial gun? The axial gun is why I am convinced they are Dreadnaughts. You know that big thing in the middle. The ships are build around a big tube. That's their main gun.
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Posté 21 février 2012 - 01:08
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What are the huge ships in this picture, then?
#39
Posté 21 février 2012 - 01:17
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Is fighting a battle in atmosphere not a death sentence for the people who live under it? What you shoot dead must come down...
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Posté 21 février 2012 - 01:19
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We've known what cruisers look like since ME1, though.CROAT_56 wrote...
they could be heavy cruisers?
Maybe they're carriers?
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Posté 21 février 2012 - 01:21
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izmirtheastarach wrote...
Ajosraa wrote...
I think those might be Carriers.
Im thinking this because they have no noticable axial gun, but a large opening by the looks of it in the front of them. Also Carriers are much more numerious in the Alliance Navy.
But..If it is a dreadnaught, then maybe the reason it looks the way that does is because the main gun must not stick out and be recessed inside that black opening in the front of them.
How do they have no axial gun? The axial gun is why I am convinced they are Dreadnaughts. You know that big thing in the middle. The ships are build around a big tube. That's their main gun.
Did you read the last paragraph of my post? I said if they ARE then it must just look like their recessed, as in not sticking out with two barrels like the cruisers.
So...Yes, as i said, that MIGHT be the case.
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Posté 21 février 2012 - 01:26
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those look awsome =0. dont see any guns though. not that it isnt military.Doofe2012 wrote...
What are the huge ships in this picture, then?
looks kinda like a comercial vehicle mabye
#43
Posté 21 février 2012 - 01:29
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Those ships actually look more like turian ships (slender)
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Posté 21 février 2012 - 01:32
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And something that I cant quite figure out, Did they change the cruiser model from ME1 to ME3?
Because I remember the old cruiser looking like this:
But the new one has the fin parts sticking past the bow, with two slightly different shaped barrels, and the top is cut at an angle. Upgrades? One is cruiser one is heavy cruiser?
But now they seem to have the model from the ones in the red circle:
And yet again, What about the Elbrus from the invasion comic? Was that just Cerberus's model? But yet its named like a dreadnaught....a bit confusing these mass effect ships;P
It looks like an Alliance Cruiser, but with different shaped wings, and turrets inbetween them (the coolest looking one imo) :
Because I remember the old cruiser looking like this:
But the new one has the fin parts sticking past the bow, with two slightly different shaped barrels, and the top is cut at an angle. Upgrades? One is cruiser one is heavy cruiser?
But now they seem to have the model from the ones in the red circle:
And yet again, What about the Elbrus from the invasion comic? Was that just Cerberus's model? But yet its named like a dreadnaught....a bit confusing these mass effect ships;P
It looks like an Alliance Cruiser, but with different shaped wings, and turrets inbetween them (the coolest looking one imo) :
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Posté 21 février 2012 - 01:38
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No they changed the cruiser model around. Funny thing did you know that was suppose to be the dreadnaught model but the cgi guys boxed it up. Lolh
#46
Posté 21 février 2012 - 01:43
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Yeah, I don't think it's a Dreadnought. The red circled ships actually look more like Frigates while the purple is the Cruiser. A Dreadnought should be even bigger then that.
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Posté 21 février 2012 - 01:45
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Uh, so the Alliance committed half of its dreadnoughts into tight formation inside the atmosphere? Isn't that tactically retarded or something? if one blows up, they're all gone. I would think you would want these more strategically placed, and at least hundreds of kilometres apart. Hell wouldn't simply firing the main gun potentially damage nearby ships in the atmosphere? I'm sure the smaller ones would be obliterated.
I know its just a trailer...but it goes against lore they already established. Perhaps the people who made the trailer just thought it would look badass (it does, but i wouldn't wanna be within visual range of that thing when it fires its gun...)
Of course it could be some hail mary play from the end of the game that we dont know about yet where they got no choice but to do this.
I know its just a trailer...but it goes against lore they already established. Perhaps the people who made the trailer just thought it would look badass (it does, but i wouldn't wanna be within visual range of that thing when it fires its gun...)
Of course it could be some hail mary play from the end of the game that we dont know about yet where they got no choice but to do this.
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Posté 21 février 2012 - 01:45
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OP is right. Jeesh, everyone is acting like the ME Wiki. It's speculation or wrong unless they decide it's right.
#49
Posté 21 février 2012 - 01:53
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crackseed wrote...
Yeah, I don't think it's a Dreadnought. The red circled ships actually look more like Frigates while the purple is the Cruiser. A Dreadnought should be even bigger then that.
No the red are definately cruisers, alliance frigates look nothing like that, if you watch the battle of the citadel you see other Alliance frigates alongside the normandy they look similar to the normandy and nothing like the cruisers do.
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Posté 21 février 2012 - 01:58
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Aha, thank you for reminding me about that. You're correct on the Frigates looking similar to Normandy. That image doesn't convey scale too well though so all the red ships look similar in size to the Normandy, hence the Frigate assumption.
