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[SeminoleFarms]

While I like the notion of romance ... you know, two people developing a love for one another over time ... the need to walk out of the room while the porn scene rolls sort of dirties the whole thing for me. Getting all the achievments oughtn't make me feel soiled and in need of a shower

Anyone share my view that a porn clip is nasty, or do you guys think there's no such thing as romance without the porn?

[AlexMBrennan]

How old are you? Should you really be playing a game rated 15+?

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 20 février 2012 - 04:20 .

[Knightly_BW]

Seems to me trolls love BSN.

Everyday one of these absurd threads pops up.

[DKruger]

Yes, it does.

[AlexMBrennan]

ME 1 (the one with the sex scene) is rated 12+ whilst ME2 is rated 15+ in the UK

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 20 février 2012 - 04:31 .

[Kyria Nyriese]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

ME 1 (the one with the sex scene) is 12+, ME2 is 15+

Just took out my ME 2 disks and took a look at ME, both are rated M Mature 17+

[Kyria Nyriese]

As for the OP, I have found that the bedroom scenes in all of Bioware's games have been very tastefully done, and I wouldn't call them porn as really they are no more than what you would see watching TV.

[Shinobu]

What, there's porn?! I got a fully clothed head bump.

I thought the ME1 scenes were tastefully done with just the right amount of skin, but liked that the ME2 scenes were LI-specific. The ME2 scenes ranged from almost nothing (Garrus) to exhibitionist dry-humping in the engine room (poor Miri, I thought she was classier than that), neither of which I found particularly satisfying.

So, I'd prefer ME1-style scenes with more intimacy, less awkwardly-animated characters clambering on top of each other, less clothing and more subtlety (for want of a better word). Having them be LI-specific would be best.

[AlexMBrennan]

http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/image/481

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 20 février 2012 - 04:31 .

[Anzer]

Kyria Nyriese wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

ME 1 (the one with the sex scene) is 12+, ME2 is 15+

Just took out my ME 2 disks and took a look at ME, both are rated M Mature 17+

He's referring to the UK or Aussie ratings. In the USA, it's 17+, not so overseas, though.

[SeminoleFarms]

I think it's funny how asking a simple question like this leads to the gratuitous "how old are you" stuff and all that, accusations of trolling, etc. It's like a "firewall" lol! I'm 53, five kids, seven grandkids.

I realize there's even worse porn on television, but I think the quality of television has been going downhill for a long time. Maybe computer games, now that they've been ruled an art in courts, are going to supplant television.

I just wish Bioware would lead the art side, you know, instead of becoming the "Skinemax" of video games with all the low-reputation that brings with it.

[Finis Valorum]

Yes, in fact passing several sex themed minigames will be mandatory to complete this game.

[Legion64]

Press A to inject your disco stick!

[AlexMBrennan]

I think it's funny how asking a simple question like this leads to the gratuitous "how old are you" stuff and all that

My point was that, at some point, people tend to start getting interested in things other than chaste romance. From the original post, I got the impression that the poster had not yet reached that stage (since nothing is actually shown, it must be the idea of the act that offended him rather than a graphical depiction, which we agree would not be appropriate)

[Mecha3]

SeminoleFarms wrote...

I think it's funny how asking a simple question like this leads to the gratuitous "how old are you" stuff and all that, accusations of trolling, etc. It's like a "firewall" lol! I'm 53, five kids, seven grandkids.

I realize there's even worse porn on television, but I think the quality of television has been going downhill for a long time. Maybe computer games, now that they've been ruled an art in courts, are going to supplant television.

I just wish Bioware would lead the art side, you know, instead of becoming the "Skinemax" of video games with all the low-reputation that brings with it.

Really, compare the love scenes from ME1 and 2 to the love scenes from Witcher 2 and you'll see how tame ME is.

[SeminoleFarms]

I thought the ME1 scenes were tastefully done with just the right amount of skin, but liked that the ME2 scenes were LI-specific. The ME2 scenes ranged from almost nothing (Garrus) to exhibitionist dry-humping in the engine room

Yes, I found the ME1 scene tasteful enough that I didn't have to leave the room, but I still prefer the suggestion that sex will/has happened to any graphical representation. As you might guess, I don't pursue the virtual romances at all except to the extent I must for the achievement.

So I followed the hetero, same-species Shepard and Miranda in ME2, and got the quite sad full-blown porn on the deckplates. Cold, loveless, mechanical just like any porn there is. Sad.

[AdrynBliss]

OP needs to learn a sex scene does not equal porn.
The fact you equate a tastefully done romantic scene with pornography simply because there is nudity is probably what leads people to believe you are quite young.

[tomorrowstation]

SeminoleFarms wrote...

I think it's funny how asking a simple question like this leads to the gratuitous "how old are you" stuff and all that, accusations of trolling, etc. It's like a "firewall" lol! I'm 53, five kids, seven grandkids.

I realize there's even worse porn on television, but I think the quality of television has been going downhill for a long time. Maybe computer games, now that they've been ruled an art in courts, are going to supplant television.

I just wish Bioware would lead the art side, you know, instead of becoming the "Skinemax" of video games with all the low-reputation that brings with it.

 You have to understand how it looks to some of us: You joined today and start a topic containing buzzwords that are orten associated with troll threads.

On topic, I would make a distinction between sex and porn. Sex can beheavily implied without the gratuitous visuals of pornography.  Either way, we will not see anything approaching R rated movies in ME3. At the most, some side-boob.

[SeminoleFarms]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

people tend to start getting interested in things other than chaste romance.

Well, that's the thing I'm trying to figure out. Everyone knows that romance is never chaste, really. Thus, all the kids down the line.

The sexual part can be artfully suggested, many famous movies (pre-1970) had notable seens. Kissing on hugging on the beach ... fade to waves crashing ashore ... fade to the next day. We know what went down, we can all imagine it in the way best suited to our personal tastes. Art.

[JediHealerCosmin]

Asperius wrote...

Seems to me trolls love BSN.

Everyday one of these absurd threads pops up.

True, but you have to admit that a good facepalm can makes us laugh sometimes 

[Good Chaos7]

I want a mesh of Me1 & ME2!

The tastefulness, Romance, & Individual scenes of ME 2
And the realism romance of ME 1, Because As tasteful as Jack or Garrus was, I prefer to not lose my immersion by going (" Are they humping in their clothes or something.."ಠ_ಠ) or feeling cheated n Disappoint (*Head Bump* fades to Black) ಠ_ಠ... "WTF!"

[Heather Cline]

ME1 love scene and ME2 love scene as well as DA:O and DA2 love scenes are very tame in comparison to The Witcher 2 love scenes. In fact The Witcher 2 shows women fully nude and in throws of sexual pleasure while in ME1 it didn't even show that. ME2 love scenes were severely gimped compared to ME1. DA:O and DA2 love scenes were severely gimped as well. All because of Fox being jerks and blowing everything out of proportion.

You don't see The Witcher 2 getting the same kind of bad press for it's sex scenes like the ME series or having the people who created The Witcher 2 getting attacked for including it. Bioware after one bout of bad press became prudes and have gimped every game since ME1 in the romance bedroom scenes because of it.

Seriously because of Fox, Bioware crapped their pants and said never again. This is why we get crappy romance scenes with just bras and panties.

[Legion64]

I am pretty sure porn is different from having sex. Porn is recorded sex used to make money. Sex is, well, just sex. Making love with one another. Completely different. But just because one is not comfortable watching video game sex, doesn't mean he/she is underaged. In my honest opinion, I find sex to be more about love then lust.

Modifié par Legion64, 20 février 2012 - 04:50 .

[SeminoleFarms]

AdrynBliss wrote...

OP needs to learn a sex scene does not equal porn.

I see, so your answer to my question is that romance requires a sex scene, and that a sex scene is not necessarily porn.

In ME2 what I observed was Miranda atop Shepard on the deckplates of engineering bouncing up and down like a pogo-stick.

Does that qualify as porn to you?