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[Legion64]

SeminoleFarms wrote...

AdrynBliss wrote...

OP needs to learn a sex scene does not equal porn.

I see, so your answer to my question is that romance requires a sex scene, and that a sex scene is not necessarily porn.

In ME2 what I observed was Miranda atop Shepard on the deckplates of engineering bouncing up and down like a pogo-stick.

Does that qualify as porn to you?

No, that's called sex. That's what happens during sex. Do I have to explain this to someone over the age of 50?

[Heather Cline]

Actually Miranda did not bounce up and down like a pogo stick. What she did was have intense kissing with Shepard, unzipped her suit and then it faded to black. Seriously where did you get bouncing up and down like a pogo stick?

Also porn if you look it up is showing explicit sexual copulation. Like the penis entering the vagina, full on nudity, fingering the vagina, stroking the male sexual organ and so on and so forth.

What you are describing is two people about to have sex not actual sexual intercourse. Two completely different things.

[Matchy Pointy]

If you say the ME lov scenes is porn, you havent seen good porn...

Seriously though, I would say those are perfect scenes for love/sex scenes if you ask me.

[Legion64]

Heather Cline wrote...

Actually Miranda did not bounce up and down like a pogo stick. What she did was have intense kissing with Shepard, unzipped her suit and then it faded to black. Seriously where did you get bouncing up and down like a pogo stick?

Also porn if you look it up is showing explicit sexual copulation. Like the penis entering the vagina, full on nudity, fingering the vagina, stroking the male sexual organ and so on and so forth.

What you are describing is two people about to have sex not actual sexual intercourse. Two completely different things.

He got it from his dirty imagination. Obviously the OP is a troll or a pervert.

[BatmanPWNS]

If they remove the sex scenes, I'll live. Can't say the same for everybody else here. Sex doesn't mean romance to me.

[SeminoleFarms]

Legion64 wrote...

I am pretty sure porn is different from having sex.

This sentence cannot be parsed lol! I've never seen porn in which people were *not* having sex lol!

Not asking for a definition of porn, really. Just asking if everyone thinks it's possible to have romance without some graphical virtualization of the human sexual act, commonly known as porn.

[Saberchic]

AdrynBliss wrote...

OP needs to learn a sex scene does not equal porn.
The fact you equate a tastefully done romantic scene with pornography simply because there is nudity is probably what leads people to believe you are quite young.

I agree with this. There's nothing pornographic about any of the love scenes Bioware has done. OP, if it bothers you so much, don't do the optional romances or turn the love scene down without killing the romance.

[Heather Cline]

No it's not commonly known as porn. Porn is completely different than what you are describing. That is what we are trying to tell you. The romance scenes are a culmination of what you've accomplished with wooing and romancing the character you've chosen to have your Shepard fall in love with. There is no explicit sexual intercourse going on.

That is the entire point. Pornography is explicit sexual intercourse shown on film or in pictures depicting explicit sexual acts. What you are talking about is NOT porn at all. It's something completely different.

[Legion64]

SeminoleFarms wrote...

Legion64 wrote...

I am pretty sure porn is different from having sex.

This sentence cannot be parsed lol! I've never seen porn in which people were *not* having sex lol!

Not asking for a definition of porn, really. Just asking if everyone thinks it's possible to have romance without some graphical virtualization of the human sexual act, commonly known as porn.

You're definitely lying about being married and having kids if you think that what you say is a fact.

Modifié par Legion64, 20 février 2012 - 05:07 .

[fetissimies]

SeminoleFarms wrote...

Legion64 wrote...

I am pretty sure porn is different from having sex.

This sentence cannot be parsed lol! I've never seen porn in which people were *not* having sex lol!

Not asking for a definition of porn, really. Just asking if everyone thinks it's possible to have romance without some graphical virtualization of the human sexual act, commonly known as porn.

What is this I don't even

Modifié par fetissimies, 20 février 2012 - 05:08 .

[SeminoleFarms]

Heather Cline wrote...

Actually Miranda did not bounce up and down like a pogo stick.

You played the American version on a PC?

[Finis Valorum]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

If they remove the sex scenes, I'll live. Can't say the same for everybody else here. Sex doesn't mean romance to me.

If it would give us some decent FOV options get rid of the awful button or bring back holstering I would give up the date scenes (they're not even sex scenes) in a heartbeat, however nothing that has ever featured in Mass Effect has come even remotely close to being porn.

[Legion64]

SeminoleFarms wrote...

Heather Cline wrote...

Actually Miranda did not bounce up and down like a pogo stick.

You played the American version on a PC?

Yep, this guy is trolling.

[SeminoleFarms]

Heather Cline wrote...

The romance scenes are a culmination of what you've accomplished with wooing and romancing the character you've chosen to have your Shepard fall in love with. There is no explicit sexual intercourse going on.

I guess we have differing definitions of the term "explicit".

There remains the question. Do you, personally, require a graphical presentation of the sexual act in order to enjoy a romantic storyline? Based on your comments thus far, I'll put you down in the "yes, I do" column.

[SeminoleFarms]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

If they remove the sex scenes, I'll live. Can't say the same for everybody else here. Sex doesn't mean romance to me.

Thanks, BatmanPWNS. A nice, direct answer to the very simple question, without feeling the need to be insulting or to troll me.

I agree, sex scenes are superfluous to me, and I'd like to see the money and resources wasted on them invested in improving other aspects.

[Volc19]

Dude, compared to ME1, the ME2 sex scenes are tame, even unrealistically so. And ME1's somewhat more graphic scenes (Read: Side boob in a dark room) were tasteful, short, and realistic. ME2's romance ranged from mostly clothed kissing in the engine rooms to a headbump. Complaining about such as pornography is why we aren't taking you seriously.

[SeminoleFarms]

Volc19 wrote...

Dude, compared to ME1, the ME2 sex scenes are tame.

As you wish, my appraisal differs. Do you, personally, require a graphical sex scene in order to understand and enjoy a romantic storyline?

[Kyria Nyriese]

A graphic sex scene no, however, a tastefully done love scene I would like that. That is what was done in ME. In ME2 well worst you got was Miranda's bra or Jacob's bare chest. Not a lot of sex there. /shrug

[Anzer]

SeminoleFarms wrote...

I guess we have differing definitions of the term "explicit".

There remains the question. Do you, personally, require a graphical presentation of the sexual act in order to enjoy a romantic storyline? Based on your comments thus far, I'll put you down in the "yes, I do" column.

ex·plic·it   /ɪkˈsplɪsɪt/ [ik-splis-it]

adjective
1.
fully and clearly expressed or demonstrated; leaving nothing merely implied; unequivocal: explicit instructions; an explicit act of violence; explicit language.
2.
clearly developed or formulated: explicit knowledge; explicit belief.
3.
definite and unreserved in expression; outspoken: He was quite explicit as to what he expected us to do for him.
4.
described or shown in realistic detail: explicit sexual scenes.
5.
having sexual acts or nudity clearly depicted: explicit movies; explicit books.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. So I decided to help you out.

Also, if you want to finish a romance with someone, but don't want any of that messy kissing stuff, you could always romance Tali or Garrus.

Modifié par Zalekanzer, 20 février 2012 - 05:33 .

[Heather Cline]

No my comments are meant to make you stop acting stupid and see that your definition of sex scenes are not porn.

Also there is no bouncing up and down like a pogo stick. I played the ME2 version on the 360 here in the states and there are tons of ME2 video's of the PC version of the romance scene between Miranda and Shepard on youtube.

Seriously you are a troll.

To answer your question do I believe a romance scene needs to end in sexual intercourse, no. Do I want it to, yes.

[tomorrowstation]

SeminoleFarms wrote...

Volc19 wrote...

Dude, compared to ME1, the ME2 sex scenes are tame.

As you wish, my appraisal differs. Do you, personally, require a graphical sex scene in order to understand and enjoy a romantic storyline?

You should be asking if the story requires it. Daeneris and Drogo's storyline requires a graphical sex scene, From here to Eternity does not. Last Tango in Paris requires a graphical sex scene for me to enjoy it, The Rocketeer's romance subplot doesn't.

[SeminoleFarms]

Zalekanzer wrote...

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. So I decided to help you out.

Also, if you want to finish a romance with someone, but don't want any of that messy kissing stuff, you could always romance Tali or Garrus.

Actually, I'm not the one using that word, except in reply

Inter-species sex? Meh, no. Don't get into other species myself. It's not just the basic gross factor, but the reality that even being able to have sex with alien species is so far-fetched as to destroy any necessary suspension of disbelief.

[SeminoleFarms]

Heather Cline wrote...

To answer your question do I believe a romance scene needs to end in sexual intercourse, no. Do I want it to, yes.

Very good, after all that ill-will, all the insultes, all the trolling me while calling me a troll, you finally just answer the simple question directly. Yes, you want romantic scenes to include a sex scene. Thanks.

[Heather Cline]

No I answered a question after you altered the original question which was Does Romance require a porno scene. Me and the others have been telling you that there is no porno scene in any of the ME series. When you altered your question to asking if we think a romance scene requires some kind of sexual intercourse then I answered your question.

You still are a troll and you still are a idiot in my eyes.

[SeminoleFarms]

tomorrowstation wrote...

You should be asking if the story requires it.

There is no imagineable aspect of the storyline of ME1 or ME2 that requires graphical depictions of sex of any sort. That's why I don't need to ask that, and shouldn't have.

I'm trying to assess just what fraction of the fanbase thinks there has to be graphical depicitions of sex in a great game. I'm noting that Skyrim had no graphical depictions of sex, and it's doing quite well.