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[Ogrinash]

Try and find a class that suits your play style; all of them are easily Silver worthy

Stay in cover as much as possible [until you've learnt how to deal with everything you come across]; shoot and/or use Powers from such. Run from cover to cover; the enemies don't hit you much as long as you aren't moving [mostly] parallel to them

Hold a bit of ground for several seconds and see if any enemies are coming at you from the open; mow them down as they come

[Heldarion]

At first, I found even broze very hard and it probably had somethig to do with having absolutely no good weapons and mods for them. After I unlocked some goodies and leveled them up, bronze became easy peasy and moved to silver. Now, I don't even wanna play bronze, because I'm tabbed half the time and it feels like shooting dummies. Silver is challenging and refreshing, but not hard. Gold is hard sometimes, mostly depending on what team you've got. And for the record, my teams used mics in maybe 1% of matches I played and I'm almost rank 800.

It basically just takes some time and getting used to.

Modifié par Heldarion, 23 juin 2012 - 10:10 .

[Ciam]

Troll thread?

[gerryd]

Ashen Earth wrote...

gerryd wrote...

PreGy wrote...

cmhalon wrote...

you guys are a bunch of retards or liars. Silver is not easy and Gold is most certainly not. I've been playing this damn game since release and I get 1st place consistently every time. Don't give me this bull about "change tactics, stick with your team". You show me a krogan sentinel that gets shot 3 times on silver difficulty and goes down and I'll show you a fairy that flies out of a krogan ass. You're full of it. Silver is hard as **** and unbalanced now, I don't know what they've done but they need to put it back the way it was.

I wonder why you wrote in a 3-months old thread to call retards or liars to people who play silver like a walk in a park.

For me, Silver is quite easy, even with a lvl1 character. In fact, Krogan Sentinel is lately my main silver character, and I can go almost full "berserker" and hardly get down once or twice in a whole game.

I would advice you to get better and don't insult people for knowing how to play.

Dude you've got all Rare weapons and mods maxed along with some great gear in your collection. Of course its a walk in the park for you.

It's pretty easy to max rares when you play and win frequently. (basically, not sucking at the game)

How do you think he got those weapons anyway?

Lol its funny how its always the people with the great gear who says that. I've played enough of this game to realise skill only plays a small part. Don't kid yourself. If you can take enemies down faster you have less chance of getting swarmed and if you can deal with strong enemies rather quickly because of your weapon strenght then its gonna be a lot easier. In fact I would call people who use common weapons and never die or get the highest points in a round the skilled people. Not the people with Geth pulse rifles X modded with stability dampers V and Extended Barrels V topped off with Assault Rifle Amp V equipment.

Come on be real mate, It would take you 100s of hours to get half that gear in this game. Something thats hard for most because they have other commitments outside of gaming like work, family and friends. I laugh at people who think they are skilled in this generatin of gaming because most games don't rely on skill anymore but the amount of time you put in a game.

[Gornok]

Keep playing, your skills will adapt to it soon enough.

[PreGy]

gerryd wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

gerryd wrote...

PreGy wrote...

cmhalon wrote...

you guys are a bunch of retards or liars. Silver is not easy and Gold is most certainly not. I've been playing this damn game since release and I get 1st place consistently every time. Don't give me this bull about "change tactics, stick with your team". You show me a krogan sentinel that gets shot 3 times on silver difficulty and goes down and I'll show you a fairy that flies out of a krogan ass. You're full of it. Silver is hard as **** and unbalanced now, I don't know what they've done but they need to put it back the way it was.

I wonder why you wrote in a 3-months old thread to call retards or liars to people who play silver like a walk in a park.

For me, Silver is quite easy, even with a lvl1 character. In fact, Krogan Sentinel is lately my main silver character, and I can go almost full "berserker" and hardly get down once or twice in a whole game.

I would advice you to get better and don't insult people for knowing how to play.

Dude you've got all Rare weapons and mods maxed along with some great gear in your collection. Of course its a walk in the park for you.

It's pretty easy to max rares when you play and win frequently. (basically, not sucking at the game)

How do you think he got those weapons anyway?

Lol its funny how its always the people with the great gear who says that. I've played enough of this game to realise skill only plays a small part. Don't kid yourself. If you can take enemies down faster you have less chance of getting swarmed and if you can deal with strong enemies rather quickly because of your weapon strenght then its gonna be a lot easier. In fact I would call people who use common weapons and never die or get the highest points in a round the skilled people. Not the people with Geth pulse rifles X modded with stability dampers V and Extended Barrels V topped off with Assault Rifle Amp V equipment.

Come on be real mate, It would take you 100s of hours to get half that gear in this game. Something thats hard for most because they have other commitments outside of gaming like work, family and friends. I laugh at people who think they are skilled in this generatin of gaming because most games don't rely on skill anymore but the amount of time you put in a game.

So what's your point? Mine is difficulty levels are there so people play what fits them better; if silver is "too hard" for someone, then he should be playing bronze till they are ready (gear or knowledge about enemies/maps and classes). But many people just complain here, and tell people like me it's because the gear, when I can bet most of them have hardly play bronze more than once with every class. Gear is just one variable.

I played the demo a lot (N7120), 99% time bronze. When I got the game, I kept on playing bronze till I knew basic things, then I moved to bronze/silver (depending on mood and class). I didn't start playing Gold til N7-200 or so. But I see dozens of N7 lower than 100 on gold, and when I play Silver I also see a lot of N7 lower than 40. So it's their problem if they find it too hard: playing bronze is not a bad thing, and surely it's the wiser thing to do if someone feels silver is too hard.

And since you made "skill" an important point in your argument, I will say I'm a very skilled player that has played videogames for 24 years. I don't expect everyone to play like me or better, but I also don't like complaining in a game about difficulty if it is not a broken thing. And silver is not broken.

Modifié par PreGy, 23 juin 2012 - 10:56 .

[Immaculate J]

I looked at your manifest, soo you haven't played much at all. Just play some more for experience and in know time you'll get better and your weapons aren't good at this stage. In my noob stages I pretty much used a phalanx and relied on biotics to pull me through. I waited a very long time to try silver when I got the geth plasma shotgun and the paladin, and at that moment I found silver really easy

[Computron2000]

OP, Cerebrus is fine. You're either dying because of a grenade that doesn't show up with the grenade indicator (nothing much you can do about this other than pay more attention to your surroundings) or you're rushing headlong into a full spawn. Take it slow, a lot of bronze rambos die on silver in the first few waves but most get smarter and stay together from wave 6 onwards or they quit.

Remember when in a wave 10 hacking operation in a area where things are coming in all directions, panicky squadmates are going down and things are getting hairy, pull out your rocket and aim at the ground, it should help clear your immediate area for reviving teammates or running away.

If you die to a blindsided triple shooting geth rocket trooper or something that else that insta-kills you when you have full shields, its is just bad luck or the game glitching

[Gornok]

Bronze is there merely to get the jist of the game, the tactics, getting to know the attacks of your enemies, and working on your game mechanics.... its when you go to silver that these skills are tested.

Take your time and learn the game, it will make the higher levels easier once you adapt to their damage.

[Chaoswind]

gerryd wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

gerryd wrote...

PreGy wrote...

cmhalon wrote...

you guys are a bunch of retards or liars. Silver is not easy and Gold is most certainly not. I've been playing this damn game since release and I get 1st place consistently every time. Don't give me this bull about "change tactics, stick with your team". You show me a krogan sentinel that gets shot 3 times on silver difficulty and goes down and I'll show you a fairy that flies out of a krogan ass. You're full of it. Silver is hard as **** and unbalanced now, I don't know what they've done but they need to put it back the way it was.

I wonder why you wrote in a 3-months old thread to call retards or liars to people who play silver like a walk in a park.

For me, Silver is quite easy, even with a lvl1 character. In fact, Krogan Sentinel is lately my main silver character, and I can go almost full "berserker" and hardly get down once or twice in a whole game.

I would advice you to get better and don't insult people for knowing how to play.

Dude you've got all Rare weapons and mods maxed along with some great gear in your collection. Of course its a walk in the park for you.

It's pretty easy to max rares when you play and win frequently. (basically, not sucking at the game)

How do you think he got those weapons anyway?

Lol its funny how its always the people with the great gear who says that. I've played enough of this game to realise skill only plays a small part. Don't kid yourself. If you can take enemies down faster you have less chance of getting swarmed and if you can deal with strong enemies rather quickly because of your weapon strenght then its gonna be a lot easier. In fact I would call people who use common weapons and never die or get the highest points in a round the skilled people. Not the people with Geth pulse rifles X modded with stability dampers V and Extended Barrels V topped off with Assault Rifle Amp V equipment.

Come on be real mate, It would take you 100s of hours to get half that gear in this game. Something thats hard for most because they have other commitments outside of gaming like work, family and friends. I laugh at people who think they are skilled in this generatin of gaming because most games don't rely on skill anymore but the amount of time you put in a game.

Actually people get all that because they are skilled, you can have a black widow x and still suck badly.

I play a Max of 1 hour per day (3 on Saturdays), and took a long break of this game after experiencing the ending in all is colorful glory, and still rocked gold with my GPS 3.

It boils down to this, some classes rely on their equipment in order to not suck, power spamers don't.

Don't have any good equipment? rock silver with adepts (I play the human one with my predator x just to make a point), or engineers, or vanguards... heck only soldiers suck without good weapons.

[Leisure Muffin]

I solo silver with my brain tied behind my back. (Without an infiltrator.)

[gerryd]

Chaoswind wrote...

gerryd wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

gerryd wrote...

PreGy wrote...

cmhalon wrote...

you guys are a bunch of retards or liars. Silver is not easy and Gold is most certainly not. I've been playing this damn game since release and I get 1st place consistently every time. Don't give me this bull about "change tactics, stick with your team". You show me a krogan sentinel that gets shot 3 times on silver difficulty and goes down and I'll show you a fairy that flies out of a krogan ass. You're full of it. Silver is hard as **** and unbalanced now, I don't know what they've done but they need to put it back the way it was.

I wonder why you wrote in a 3-months old thread to call retards or liars to people who play silver like a walk in a park.

For me, Silver is quite easy, even with a lvl1 character. In fact, Krogan Sentinel is lately my main silver character, and I can go almost full "berserker" and hardly get down once or twice in a whole game.

I would advice you to get better and don't insult people for knowing how to play.

Dude you've got all Rare weapons and mods maxed along with some great gear in your collection. Of course its a walk in the park for you.

It's pretty easy to max rares when you play and win frequently. (basically, not sucking at the game)

How do you think he got those weapons anyway?

Lol its funny how its always the people with the great gear who says that. I've played enough of this game to realise skill only plays a small part. Don't kid yourself. If you can take enemies down faster you have less chance of getting swarmed and if you can deal with strong enemies rather quickly because of your weapon strenght then its gonna be a lot easier. In fact I would call people who use common weapons and never die or get the highest points in a round the skilled people. Not the people with Geth pulse rifles X modded with stability dampers V and Extended Barrels V topped off with Assault Rifle Amp V equipment.

Come on be real mate, It would take you 100s of hours to get half that gear in this game. Something thats hard for most because they have other commitments outside of gaming like work, family and friends. I laugh at people who think they are skilled in this generatin of gaming because most games don't rely on skill anymore but the amount of time you put in a game.

Actually people get all that because they are skilled, you can have a black widow x and still suck badly.

I play a Max of 1 hour per day (3 on Saturdays), and took a long break of this game after experiencing the ending in all is colorful glory, and still rocked gold with my GPS 3.

It boils down to this, some classes rely on their equipment in order to not suck, power spamers don't.

Don't have any good equipment? rock silver with adepts (I play the human one with my predator x just to make a point), or engineers, or vanguards... heck only soldiers suck without good weapons.

Look I'm not saying the people with high level gear ain't skilled but high level gear in this game plays a big part in success. 2 days again I joined a game with 2 randoms who were friends and level 600 N7 and in the first game they ruled by about 20k points. Then in the second game one of them dared the other to use a Katana shotgun
and see if he could get top points. Well we spent the whole match reviving him and hearing him scream about how crap the weapon was until wave 9 when both of them died and they asked us to bleed out so they could change weapons. If skill was a factor in this the dude wouldn't have died so much and complained. All I'm saying is veteran players shouldn't be so quick to judge the little guys who find stuff harder. They should be more supportive.

[PreGy]

^^ I suggest you take a look at other threads where OP asks for tips. They always get full lists.

Whinning? No, thanks. As krogan say: "Stop whinning".

Modifié par PreGy, 23 juin 2012 - 12:09 .

[Farmtech-Ru]

All I can say that skill takes time and guns take time. I remember the first bronze game here playing human vanguard 'cause it was from single player memory. Boy, did I suck. Then there were some daring silver runs, and they were the ultimate challenge for me and a friend. Then I went alone to random teams farming FBWGG - friend actually did not overcome fear. It turned out not too hard to play FBWGG and even being in top 2 on the team.

That was all a month ago. Now I can play silver with a human soldier armed with veteran tier weapons - viper and scimitar, without being the last in the score list. And can play gold with relative ease, depending on weapons used.

Conclusion - if you invest a few hundred battles' time - you'll find silver almost too easy without any uber powerful weapons.

[Leronel]

In my opinion silver is quite simple.

You can dance in front of mobs to troll them before to shoot them.

I think it miss a difficulty level between silver and gold and an other one harder than gold.

Maybe rebuild your charachter and don't take two guns, I always see to heavy people playing, with an assault rifle and a shotgun. Seriously I'll hardly ever take two gun with me.

And since one or two week the 8 touch is an auto reload so don't need a second gun in emergency.

[Krozuhsky]

Why are you people necroing this thread?

[Fenrisfil]

I like Silver. It's challenging but not so much as to force you to use a limited pool of characters or tactics. You get a good mix of enemies and you don't have to use a load of your consumables/equipment to get through it.

Having said that, I wouldn't be against creating additional difficulty levels to spread things out a bit. There is quite a leap between bronze/silver and silver/gold. If we had six levels you could have something between each of the current ones and have an even harder top tier for those that want an even greater challenge. Not sure what you would call them all. Maybe it would have to go something like: Stone/Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum/Diamond (with Stone being old Bronze and Platinum being old Gold, Silver is still Silver). They may have to tweak match making to allow you to find one difficulty off what your searching for.

[bendermac]

there are only three things that make silver hard if you or your team plays for themself or doesn't have the proper class on the team

phantoms that just don't wanna die
marauders that kill you from the other side of the map or simply didn't see
pyros that sneak up to

other then that silver is fun.

Modifié par bendermac, 23 juin 2012 - 12:26 .

[Chaoswind]

Errr I use my katana X on most of my vanguards when playing on glacier, is only now that my dispile got 5 upgrades in a row that I changed.

Weapons are like classes, you need to know how to use them, you can't use the advenger like is a harrier, or the katana like is a GPS/claymore.

If you have never used a gun before you will probably fail, unless the style is similar to a gun you had used previously.

[DivineAura]

DarkLord_PT wrote...

Alamar2078 wrote...

Note: About Phantoms Stasis is great and required as far as I'm concerned. Otherwise pray an Infiltrator can headshot her, she stays still long enough for a rocket, you can punch through shields and hit her with a AOE skill, etc.

Agreed Stasis is much, much, MUCH welcome on a Phantom, but a capable Vanguard can take those pesky buggers out easily without it, too. =)

Try reegar carbine on phantoms especially with krogans/ batarians/ vorcha if you have it, you'll find it useful

[Rodia Driftwood]

Grammars is lots impossible!.

[iplay222]

cmhalon wrote...

you guys are a bunch of retards or liars. Silver is not easy and Gold is most certainly not. I've been playing this damn game since release and I get 1st place consistently every time. Don't give me this bull about "change tactics, stick with your team". You show me a krogan sentinel that gets shot 3 times on silver difficulty and goes down and I'll show you a fairy that flies out of a krogan ass. You're full of it. Silver is hard as **** and unbalanced now, I don't know what they've done but they need to put it back the way it was.

Sorry, but you cant call people liars because they have better strategies or more experienced than you i find gold fairly easy at the moment, dont complain about 'balancing' because you arent good enough to beat a difficulty, if silver is difficult for you, go play bronze, or with friends but with that attitude i dont think thats an option, your bad, get over it.

Modifié par iplay222, 23 juin 2012 - 01:08 .

[BazoozooTV]

I love silver and it's been very manageable for me.

Plus having a good team helps - usually people from my players group.

[Chaoswind]

condescending much?

Just spam recruit/vet packs until you get AT least basic weapons to level X, otherwise you will most than likely be a hindrance on the team, if you have just started the game, rock human adept as a CQC class, using warp + shockwave, and singularity + shockwave for choke points.

For silver with level **** weapons and no mods and only humans unlocked, your best bet are the human adept for close combat, human engineer and sentinel, for mid range; novaguard is just awesome IF you can handle it (and most can't)

[aVINHgence]

Let me first say that I'm definitely not a dominate player to frame my point of view. I've cleared silver pretty consistently with random groups (although I haven't been able to clear silver solo), and I've been able to clear some gold games with randoms. As a result, I think I'm probably a good place to notice variations in silver games--I'm not great, but I'm not terrible. Most of the time, silver is a casual game to me, but once in a blue moon, the enemies seem a bit tougher (accuracy is much improved, enemies tend to execute very quickly, the damage they do is a bit higher). This leads me to wonder if difficulty settings can vary either through mislabeling (i.e. it says silver when it's really gold in a similar manner as the smg lightweight material bug) or if the enemy skill is handled like skill point allocations where the allocation points is capped by the difficulty setting.

I'm guessing it's more of the former than latter, but I can't really prove either--difficult games happen too rarely, and I don't have the ability to collect metrics for this. Before anyone says that it could be the group, let me say that this post is only focused on enemy behavior and getting executed nearly immediately doesn't have anything to do with the group.

Is it possible that bronze, silver, and gold are not set criteria but a range of contributing factors? Your thoughts are welcome.